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Crimea and its attractions: endemics, rarities and beauties

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RippeR, 29.01.2007 22:06

If anyone has any interesting data on Crimean beetles and butterflies - what you can go to catch - do not write (interesting place, time, on what)

I found in Stepanov's article the station of St. Crimea. There are quite interesting things from there. For example, the same Morimus verecundus. But the most interesting thing I found there- (I saw it for the first time, I don't know who is familiar with it and how close) Phyllognathus silenus! I really liked the bug! I want to go catch already I don't know!
http://www.entomania.com/default.asp?img=26&scheda=17
Males especially liked it, with a horn!
I also saw Callimus adonis, also Crimean.

I also found insterezny on the Internet:
Semanotus undatus (Livadia)
Stenopterus ater
Stenurella jaegeri, Paracorymbia tonsa (Bakhchisarai)
Rhamnusium testaceipenne (especially desirable for capture)
Procallimus egregius
Prinobius myardi (especially want to catch)
Isotomus comptus

So we get together and go catch reptiles. Who's with me? smile.gif

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29.01.2007 23:12, Necrocephalus

Once, when I was not yet collecting beetles, I happened to encounter an interesting representative of them in the Crimea: on the southern coast of the Crimea, right on the seashore, I found many interesting minks about a finger thick. I wanted to find out who was hiding inside, so I dug up a few - there was a large, Zabrus-like ground beetle sitting there. Unfortunately, I still don't know what it's called smile.gifCan anyone tell me?

29.01.2007 23:17, Necrocephalus

I would love to go to Crimea, but for this summer, other plans wink.gifare still confused by the fact that the material will have to be transported across the border, and this, according to new Ukrainian laws, can lead to problems if it gets burned. smile.gif
RippeR, but you've never had any problems with customs? As I understand it, you regularly visit the Carpathians and various other Ukrainian places... smile.gif

29.01.2007 23:34, Victor Titov

Once, on the southern coast of the Crimea, right on the seashore, I found a lot of interesting minks about a finger thick. I wanted to find out who was hiding inside, so I dug up a few - there was a large, Zabrus-like ground beetle sitting there. Unfortunately, I still don't know what it's called smile.gifCan anyone tell me?

Ground beetles in sand holes are Scarites sp. S. terricola Bon. and S. laevigatus F. should be present in Crimea. Perhaps there are other representatives of this genus.

29.01.2007 23:38, Necrocephalus

Ground beetles in sand holes are Scarites sp. S. terricola Bon. and S. laevigatus F. should be present in Crimea. Perhaps there are other representatives of this genus.

No, they were not skarites - they were, as I said, much more like Zabrus in shape and color, but they were much larger than him. And they lived not in the sand, but in the soil-on a cliff (but the minks were only on a gentle surface) literally 10 meters from the water's edge.

29.01.2007 23:55, Victor Titov

No, they were not skarites - they were, as I said, much more like Zabrus in shape and color, but they were much larger than him. And they lived not in the sand, but in the soil-on a cliff (but the minks were only on a gentle surface) literally 10 meters from the water's edge.

Well, if not scarites, then perhaps one of these: Taphoxenus gigas (it is somewhere 2.5-3 cm), Laemostenus (Pristonychus) sp. (in the Crimea, L. cimmerius is 1.5 - 2 cm in size; L. koeppeni and L. venustus are almost the same size). But only Laemostenus does not dig holes, although it lives in burrows, caves, under large stones. And so, according to your description, it looks like Scarits.

30.01.2007 0:12, Necrocephalus

To be honest, I don't know - I didn't find any images of Taphoxenus on the Internet, and this beetle didn't look like Laemostenus. I could have been wrong, of course - maybe it wasn't a ground beetle, but a ground beetle - like blackbody, but I don't think so-I just didn't do beetles then. But definitely it wasn't a scarit - he has too zarakternaya appearance - I didn't meet any Scarits in my life yet smile.gif

30.01.2007 0:48, KDG

If anyone has any interesting data on Crimean beetles and butterflies - what you can go to catch - do not write (interesting place, time, on what)
I also saw Callimus adonis, also Crimean.

I also found insterezny on the Internet:
Semanotus undatus (Livadia)
Stenopterus ater
Stenurella jaegeri, Paracorymbia tonsa (Bakhchisarai)
Rhamnusium testaceipenne (especially desirable for capture)
Procallimus egregius
Prinobius myardi (especially want to catch)
Isotomus comptus

So we get together and go catch reptiles. Who's with me? smile.gif


Callimus adonis = C. femoratus
Semanotus undatus is easier to catch in central Russia. In Ukraine, too, there is (by the way, the Crimea is doubtful). But S. russicus may be.
Stenurella and Paracorymbia-junk in the North Caucasus
Rhamnusium should be found on dry roadsides and hollow trees.
Prinobius - you won't catch it smile.gif
egregius - also..
You can catch good dorcash - sericatum, panticapaeum, mokrzeckii.
Trichoferus and Hesperophanes again.

30.01.2007 1:22, Nimrod

30.01.2007 10:36, Dmitry Vlasov

Ph. excavatus Forst.. I collected in Turkmenistan, in the region of the Kyuren-Dag ridge (northern spurs of Kopetdag). in mid-April. They were not lost in the humus near koshar, but the larvae were never found...
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30.01.2007 11:50, rpanin

[quote=RippeR,29.01.2007 22:36]

30.01.2007 14:43, lepidopterolog

The Ai-Petrinskaya Yayla has the only population of Pseudochazara euxina, a marigold endemic to the Crimea (Kusnezov, 1909).

30.01.2007 14:51, Nimrod

Let me disagree with you, Mr. Elizar. In Turkmenistan (and in South and South Kazakhstan) it is widespread
Ph. hauseri Rtt., and in the Crimea exclusively Ph. excavatus Of Mediterranean origin.
The resulting confusion with taxa is easily explained. All species of this genus are terribly variable, and it is not surprising that they are confused. I had the opportunity to study a large series of Ph. excavatus (about 400 or even more specimens) from the Crimea (Tarkhankut), and only on the variability of the "horns" and pronotum of males can a monograph be piled up. That is why, for a clear separation of these species, it is necessary to study their preimaginal stages.

Go back to the topic. In the Mountainous Crimea, there is one interesting cruncher beetle, Holochelus subcericeus (Reitt), but according to literature data, it is only February-April in years.
Omaloplia kiritchenkoi (Medv). - also a valuable species. (Horn. Crimea)
Protaetia (Potosia) cuprea hieroglyphica (Men). - in the same place and together with P. C. cuprina (Motsch.). In general, you need to take everyone.
Oh, and one more thing. Cetonischema speciosa-recorded on Karadag (in 2004, on mulberry).
There's still a lot of interesting stuff to do, but I don't think you'll have the time or energy to do it, Mr. RippeR.
Sincerely yours, .......

This post was edited by Nimrod - 30.01.2007 16: 08

30.01.2007 15:55, guest: А

The Ai-Petrinskaya Yayla has the only population of Pseudochazara euxina, a marigold endemic to the Crimea (Kusnezov, 1909).


Not the only one: Budashkin and Ivanov found a small population on Chatyrdag umnik.gif
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30.01.2007 16:48, RippeR

Pseudochazara euxina that's interesting.

If I go , it will be very interesting to find excavatus. If I go, I'll collect everything and change, too.
How does kupreya hieroglyphics differ from simple kupreya?
It is also interesting to catch Potosia speciosa.

"Stenurella and Paracorymbia - junk in the North Caucasus"
There are no chances in the Caucasus frown.gif
"Prinobius-you won't catch egregius-too"
Why are they so scary? Are there absolutely 0 chances?? Well, prinobius is still clearly rare, and procalikukamusy?
"mokrzeckii"
Google didn't find it.. I don't know what kind. In general, I would be happy to catch dorcash, but at that time I will not be able to leave in any way..

30.01.2007 16:49, RippeR

Oh, and I really want to catch Ergates Faber.. What is the possibility? When to search, where?

30.01.2007 17:33, omar

mokrzeckii is an interesting species, according to Plavilshchikov, recorded from Kerch, and is endemic to the CIS, if not all of it. I caught it once in Chersonesos, and a friend of mine also got it from there.

30.01.2007 22:32, KDG

It is also interesting to catch Potosia speciosa.
"Stenurella and Paracorymbia - junk in the North Caucasus"
There are no chances in the Caucasus frown.gif
"Prinobius-you won't catch egregius-too"
Why are they so scary? Are there absolutely 0 chances?? Well, prinobius is still clearly rare, and procalikukamusy?
"mokrzeckii"
Google didn't find it.. I don't know what kind. In general, I would be happy to catch dorcash, but at that time I will not be able to leave in any way..

speciosa is best caught on the fruit-fermenting "byaka".
Protocallimus egregius I don't know the territory of the Union at all. only lit.data on ...
mokrzhekii (it is, however, a synonym of ciscaucasicum, according to some colleagues) is best viewed in Plavilshchikov. (p. 155) smile.gif
Ergates I caught in Guzeriple, in the collection there are from Belarus. It's probably pointless to look for him in Crimea.

30.01.2007 22:33, KDG

mokrzeckii is an interesting species, according to Plavilshchikov, recorded from Kerch, and is endemic to the CIS, if not all of it. I caught it once in Chersonesos, and a friend of mine also got it from there.

It's also going to Taman.
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31.01.2007 9:00, Dmitry Vlasov

Let me disagree with you, Mr. Elizar. In Turkmenistan (and in South and South Kazakhstan)
, Ph. hauseri Rtt. is widespread, while in the Crimea it is exclusively Ph. excavatus Forst. Of Mediterranean origin.
The resulting confusion with taxa is easily explained. All species of this genus are terribly variable, and it is not surprising that they are confused. I had the opportunity to study a large series of Ph. excavatus (about 400 or even more specimens) from the Crimea (Tarkhankut), and only on the variability of the "horns" and pronotum of males can a monograph be piled up. That is why, for a clear separation of these species, it is necessary to study their preimaginal stages.

2Nimrod
Sorry - I identified this excavatus according to Nikolaev (Lamellar sawyers of Central Asia and Kazakhstan), where they are synonymous... Are there any differences in beetles? At least on the genitals? I still seem to have some doubles left, so you can sacrifice one and break it...

31.01.2007 15:17, RippeR

Do not break in any way! You'd better send it to me!!!! smile.gif

01.02.2007 1:44, Nimrod

01.02.2007 8:38, Dmitry Vlasov

2Nimrod
Thank you so much!!!!
And for the preimaginal stages of Ph. hauseri, you should rather go in the summer. We dug up a huge dung heap near koshara - there were only beetles. And not in cradles, but buried... It was probably because of the cold, it was quite cold there then - we didn't take off our sweaters... And there was no summer at night.

01.02.2007 12:08, Nilson

Oh, and I really want to catch Ergates Faber.. What is the possibility? When to search, where?

If near you, then in the Carpathians I fished near Rakhov on July 24 over the river.Kosovska.

01.02.2007 12:40, Guest

If near you, then in the Carpathians I fished near Rakhov on July 24 over the river.Kosovska.



In what way: on the fly, on a tree, or even somehow lucky?

01.02.2007 13:58, RippeR

"We dug up a huge dung heap near koshara "

So what are these rhinos crawling on?

"If near you, then in the Carpathians I fished near Rakhov on July 24 over the river.Kosovska"

In what quantity and where? They fly to the light, how much?

01.02.2007 14:13, Nilson

 
In what quantity and where? They fly to the light, how much?

So much so, single specimens in the evening on the fly in the beech-yavorov forest. I didn't catch the light, so I was rather lucky with the bug that I have.

01.02.2007 14:19, Nimrod

01.02.2007 19:29, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

On the topic unexpectedly remembered...
On Cape Martian (YBK) accidentally poked once from a cliff near the seashore some kind of embia. It seems also not too frequent type of insect...

02.02.2007 8:40, Dmitry Vlasov

2Nimrod
To Turkmenistan I would like to... but it is unlikely. The country is painfully "fun".
I was a redneck there in 1992, my friends still went in 1993, and then it became dangerous...

02.02.2007 9:42, omar

Crimean epidemics are quite common in some parts of the Southern Coast of Crimea. They are a kind of indicator of the Mediterranean climate in the Crimea. If you want to see a lot of them, climb the sunny, rocky slopes in the Gurzuf area.

02.02.2007 11:02, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

Of course, I also climbed Gurzuf, didn't find any magic, didn't come across it.

02.02.2007 14:04, RippeR

How can I find embium?

02.02.2007 14:13, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

We fished on huge rocks, strongly warmed by the sun on the coast, just "stratified" them...

02.02.2007 14:26, rpanin

. Even in the Crimea there is a Carabus (Trachycarabus) campestris perrini 26-28 mm.. It seems to be endemic to the Crimea. I don't know for sure, if anything, please correct it.

02.02.2007 14:29, omar

Embii live under heated, but not hot stones, and in the litter. In dry places, it is rare, it should be slightly damp.

02.02.2007 14:31, omar

Interesting, more detailed post about karabus campestris, everything you know...

02.02.2007 14:57, rpanin

Interesting, more detailed post about karabus campestris, everything you know...


I don't know much. Caught one on Demergi, south slope.h- 500 m. Xerophilic. It is not found higher up in the oak-beech forest. They said that they still caught him in the Pike-perch district. Enough information from reliable sources. If necessary, I will make a photo and send it to the site on Monday.

02.02.2007 15:27, omar

Very interesting, take a photo.!

02.02.2007 23:48, okoem


Currently, three populations are known for Pseudochazara euxina. A large one on Ai-Petrinskaya yayla, and small ones on Babugan and Chatyrdag. The easiest way to get on AI-Petri. Go up by minibus or cable car, and there, right next to the lift, they are already flying.

According to the photos , I've never met them myself, probably because I didn't look for them. According to my data, you should look for them in the first half of summer, among the stones. They sit in red spider tubes. According to my data, they are on the city of Karaul-Oba, in the Adam's Lodge. It's near the New World. They also exist near Koktebel, on the Biyuk-Yanyshar ridge.

By beetles. Unfortunately, I don't know much about them. I don't know Latin at all.
Holochelus subcericeus crunch - something the search engine doesn't find with this name:-(
In the list of beetles on http://szmn.sbras.ru/Coleop/Scarab.htm this type also does not exist, alas (and why?). Some brownish crunch flies in our mountain forests in April, at dusk - en masse. Isn't that him? The same-looking khrushchik is flying massively in the steppes at the same time.
As I understand it, they were also talking about rhinos... Rhinos can be found under streetlights at night. For example, at the s train station. Vladislav, I saw them. And I've seen some big scarabs on Tarkhankut. They rolled balls at night, rustled loudly, which attracted attention:- )
Cetonischema speciosa - is it bronze? Large, light green? I met this only once, at the end of June in the city of Echki-Dag, on the trunk of an oak tree sat (there the juice flowed out).

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