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FILLIN, 24.05.2007 15:17

Tell me pliz.When this beetle flies...Is it really possible to catch it in the Moscow region now?Where does it live?
I remember coming home one summer and sitting right next to the entrance like this, as if nothing had happened.I was very happy because all my childhood I dreamed of finding it...

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24.05.2007 16:11, omar

This beetle is quite rare in the Moscow region. But the meeting is quite possible. Look in compost heaps, near farms in mountains of humus, but not in manure. Years in June. It flies at dusk. Females don't have horns.

24.05.2007 19:47, Zhuk

I would not say that it is rare. In the Ruzsky district. I see him every year. Arrives at the light of 7 pieces. According to my observations, years start from June 12 to July 8. In 2005 there were many males, in 2006 there were many females.
By the way, they have a very variable size. I found beetles 2.5 cm and 4.5 cm long

24.05.2007 21:52, omar

Beetle, it is not everywhere. In general, the beetle is rare in the region. Therefore, it is included in the Red Book of the region. I have also repeatedly found it quite close to Moscow in large numbers, but this is not an indicator that it is banal. As for the size, this is very interesting, post pictures of a giant and a dwarf - I'll be surprised. By the way, the maximum size in the literature is 42 mm.

25.05.2007 10:55, mikee

This beetle is quite rare in the Moscow region. But the meeting is quite possible. Look in compost heaps, near farms in mountains of humus, but not in manure. Years in June. It flies at dusk. Females don't have horns.

In the nearest Moscow region, I found it exclusively in old sawdust at a sawmill. Both adults and larvae of different ages. Of fundamental importance is the age of sawdust (at least 5 years) and the composition (strictly from deciduous trees). In sawdust, he also found beetles in the North Caucasus. But in the Ryazan region, the arrests are confined to a manure pile (cow manure mixed with straw). Interestingly, one of the beetles was dug up along with worms for fishing as early as the end of October 2005.
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28.05.2007 12:50, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

Once upon a time, he was caught in the center of Moscow near the zoo... smile.gif
There was also such a thing.
It was also not very rare in the Shchelkovskaya area.

28.05.2007 13:07, Sparrow

I confirm that in the Ryazan region the beetle is found mainly in dung heaps. I usually find it in the same place. But in the Krasnodar Territory I can't find it either in manure or in humus) I don't know where it develops there) And imagos fly regularly.

28.05.2007 13:13, Tigran Oganesov

I confirm that in the Ryazan region the beetle is found mainly in dung heaps. I usually find it in the same place. But in the Krasnodar Territory I can't find it either in manure or in humus) I don't know where it develops there) And imagos fly regularly.
In the Krasnodar Territory, I found them in the same compost piles. And also under fallen trees in the dust.

28.05.2007 14:34, mikee

I confirm that in the Ryazan region the beetle is found mainly in dung heaps. I usually find it in the same place. But in the Krasnodar Territory I can't find it either in manure or in humus) I don't know where it develops there) And imagos fly regularly.

In the Krasnodar Territory, I found it in old sawdust. It was a jumping pit in a former pioneer camp.

28.05.2007 15:42, Sparrow

To sum up the findings of the rhino beetle, you can find them everywhere) Starting from manure kch, ending with sawdust and rotted wood. In general, you need to look in the suburbs near the villages. In the piles to rummage if someone will allow, just something yes dig up. Or in the evening at the lanterns to keep watch.

28.05.2007 16:45, mikee

To sum up the findings of the rhino beetle, you can find them everywhere) Starting from manure kch, ending with sawdust and rotted wood. In general, you need to look in the suburbs near the villages. In the piles to rummage if someone will allow, just something yes dig up. Or in the evening at the lanterns to keep watch.

In the village with lanterns, it is usually tense, but beetles are more common. And in the city and near lanterns so much that beetles, even if they are, do not come to them smile.gifIn my experience it is much safer to dig.

31.05.2007 9:44, stierlyz

We periodically fly to the light in June. If you regularly sit with a lamp, then slowly gain weight.

31.05.2007 11:56, FILLIN

AND YOU-where is it?)))

31.05.2007 19:04, Tigran Oganesov

AND YOU-where is it?)))

The person under the nickname says where lol.gif

31.05.2007 23:08, FILLIN

I realized this only after I wrote the answer))))))

01.06.2007 12:50, alex017

I collected rhinos (I dug larvae and adults) on a wood chip dump from the boom. combine.
Keeping them is extremely simple. The male alone lived for a year and 4 months without mating.
A few years ago, there were so many of them that I took the larvae for 1.2 years of life as bait for fishing.

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01.06.2007 16:56, FILLIN

Pancake..I really want this...No one can help you get it?

02.06.2007 9:47, stierlyz

Well, where will you be from? This is not quite the topic, but I think it is very necessary to indicate your habitat in the questionnaire. If you really need rhinos, and there are serious suggestions, maybe there will be options.

03.06.2007 17:24, FILLIN

I'm in Moscow)

16.07.2007 21:46, Минск (БГУ)

That's better someone suggested how to breed this beetle, than to feed it, how to grow it at home. As for where you can meet them. I can say that if you found one, then there will definitely be others nearby, it's best to look in the sawdust. Just please help with breeding, I really want to have this bug at home as a petsmile.gif

17.07.2007 8:27, Guest

We (in Mordovia) in the days of my childhood, this beetle was piled up! We even tied it by a string and let it go, it's a cool helicopter. And now very, very rare meetings. It feels like the beetle is dying out. In my opinion, this has nothing to do with low probability. I used to catch it in my grandmother's garden (in a pile of compost), but now I don't. You can't even see the larvae.

18.07.2007 22:56, Минск (БГУ)

Today I took a test in invertebrate zoology, so on the test the teacher told me that adult rhinoceros beetles do not feed at all, tell me if this is true? And still tell me how to keep it at home, plizsmile.gif

19.07.2007 1:09, RippeR

I think he's wrong.. They seem to like to eat juice from trees. 1-2 times I found them like this, and my friends also told me what they found. But I won't say for sure, because it was a long time ago.. Beetles are massive, they need energy..
I suggest that you try honey as a food (for adults), as well as for bronzes.. Maybe some more bananas.. Nutritious food smile.gif
My friend kept the larvae in sawdust, I think, rotten cherries, in a jar or aquarium, I don't remember exactly.. Keep in mind that the larva develops about 3-4 years! So it's better to keep the bronzes, otherwise you won't wait wink.gif

19.07.2007 6:42, alex017

I liked to keep rhinos and their larvae. True, they will die from waterlogging and drying equally quickly.

19.07.2007 11:52, RippeR

this is not a big problem for rhinos.. In barbels, this is generally a horror - that's why a lot of them die during breeding.. But this is if you take the dust and various nonsense.. And if you take a cut of a tree, it will die much less - almost everyone inside will survive. Although it will not be easy to cut down a piece from an old rotten cherry or oak tree!

19.07.2007 11:55, omar

Cut it off and carry it away. Much easier. There would be a good saw.

19.07.2007 12:20, alex017

I raised rhinos without a saw! Made nutritious food: cellulose (very old)+wood chips (almost peat). On cellulose, they grow well, and wood chips absorb all the excess, like a filler for a cat's toilet.
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21.07.2007 0:37, Минск (БГУ)

And could you describe in more detail how to grow them (ALEX017), and I also read in a book that they die immediately after they lay eggs, and this is true? And how many eggs do they lay?

21.07.2007 4:49, alex017

About death after mating (males) and egg-laying (females)-100% truefrown.gif
One male lived with me for a year and 4 months without mating. Laid eggs did not have time to see: when I looked into the jar, there were already squirrels crawling. Usually up to 15 pcs.
If the male mates, then crawls, he is not himself, some do not even want to bury themselves in the ground, they crawl and die, others will bury themselves in the ground and slowly die.

About the content:

On the wood chip dump from the boomkombinat, I took larvae. At home, I kept some kind of chupa-chups in a plastic candy jar(I asked for such a jar in the store). On top of the jar, just in case, I covered it with a net. Only a couple of larvae to keep was always problematic, they bit each other and died from wounds(you can block something-thread, if you keep a couple). But there were also cases of normal coexistence. The ground was a mixture of sawdust (almost peat) and decently laid (at least 10 years) on the street pulp. They love to eat it very much, but you can't keep them in one pulp: they start to rot!!!!!! Sawdust works as a filler for cat litter boxes. In the same way, he kept the larvae of bronzes. Kept so once and the larva of May, but with a plant. They grew by leaps and bounds.
I still don't understand what rhinoceros beetles eat. I looked for their mouths under a magnifying glass, but I didn't find them (at least something similar to what other beetles have). The magnifying glass was bad, of course....maybe that's why I didn't find it. I looked at sites about tropical plants: it is said to feed fruit (like bronzes). I kept the rhinos (orictes nasicornis, as in Latin-I don't know) and the beetles themselves in the same jar with the same soil.
It's not such an interesting activity-you just know that they are there:-)
The capacity of that plastic jar was about 5 liters, the diameter was approximately equal to the height.

If you really need it and can't get it, I can help you. Soon that woodchip may come to an end-either the whole thing will burn down or be recycled. Closer to the fall, I will go in search of them myself. I can take an extra couple of maggots. Only last year I confused with bronzokamismile.gif In this-I will take only large ones, so as not to miss. The transfer should be rescheduled without any problems.

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21.07.2007 10:54, Славл

We periodically fly to the light in June. If you regularly sit with a lamp, then slowly gain weight.

Rhinoceros beetle flies to the light and in the Voronezh region. Even a floating beetle flew on the AWL.

22.07.2007 0:21, Минск (БГУ)

Many, many thanks(ALEX017), I didn't know where to look anymore, almost nothing is written about them in the literature, I found some nonsense on the Internet, so your information will be very useful to me, although of course I wanted to keep the beetles themselves, not the larvae, or rather both at once, but with adult beetles are somehow more interesting and you can show them to your friends. But in general, my goal is very ambitious. most likely not even feasible, but still there is hope, the fact is that I live in the area of Belarus where they are almost nonexistent, in Minsk I listened to only two places where they can be found, and I could not find them anywhere else, even in Polesie there are more or less enough of them, but with us... So I decided to increase the population of these beetles in my city, maybe this is certainly a crazy idea, but still, I think you can try. And please answer a couple more of my questions, and where to get this old sawdust? In factories, I think, they all take them out, so in the forest, or do you wait 10 years for them to die out?smile.gif From which trees is it best to take sawdust, and maybe they can be fed with something? And is it true that adult beetles can be fed with honey? If not, with what?smile.gif And my last question, maybe you know something else about deer beetles, specifically about the content, but I think that it will be even more difficult than in rhinos, in any case, I know that their development cycle lasts 5-6 years, and thank you again for the information provided abovesmile.gif

23.07.2007 5:00, alex017

We have no problems with sawdust and pulp-a whole mountain 20-30 meters high!
Sometimes they were found in manure and just under a fallen tree.
Here, I think, it will come in handy. I found them under huge felled poplars (they are chopped, sawn and thrown out where-thread). You can pick up sawdust from this tree. Only the trees were often already so old that wood chips could be obtained by hand. Old wood chips can be made from a collapsing stump (until I "discovered" the pulp, I did so).
And, in general, where you find, so feed, do not change the food, from this they lose weight, decrease in size and ....... They also sometimes begin to harden or turn black and decrease in size-also almost always fatal. Sick larvae sometimes survive, but the beetles from them are small, and it is extremely difficult to stop losing weight. Blackening(small coal-black spots up to 0.5 cm in diam.) it happens that it passes without consequences. They should be kept in a dark place and under such a fine net that riders do not get there.
You can always find wood chips near our sawmills, but they are too fresh for my opinion and I have never seen them in it.
You also need to stock up on wood chips for the winter, if you have it snowy and it will be difficult to get fresh food.
I took sawdust from pines, birches and poplars (WHERE YOU FIND IT, FEED IT!).
I didn't frame them with anything other than cellulose, but they also grow normally on sawdust, but you need to make sure that there are still a lot of whole sawdust, and not just their feces. If the larva is healthy, the sawdust disappears quickly. Adult beetles sat motionless in the same wood chips, did not feed them anything more, and so they lived without mating for at least a year(both males and females). Record-1 year and 4 months.
In general, I do not argue with those who feed honey. If they saw how they eat it-great!
But I don't even recommend feeding bronzes with honey, jam, etc., just juicy fruit puree. Bronzes die from honey and jam very quickly, and the couple lives on fruit for the 7th month already.
I've never seen any deer beetles. But I think it's hard to breed rhinos because of the long larval stage. I've only taken the larva out of the egg once and grown it. Too long-at least 2.5 years, and usually more. And given that they hurt each other and need to be kept separate, this complicates the situation. I wish you a lot of patience and good luck!
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23.07.2007 22:59, ZelLu

Yes, thank you very much (alex017), I will try to grow, although I have strained with patience, but I will definitely try, and once again just a huge thanksmile.gifyou

06.10.2007 14:06, ESTO MARIA

Hello everyone!!!I would like to appeal to anyone who has any information about rhinoceros beetles...my grandmother had them in a cucumber greenhouse, in manure...they probably spend the winter there,we've never seen them before,we only found them this summer...and today we decided to clean the greenhouse,and they are there KUUUUUCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!larvae of all sorts and the beetles themselves....in general, a huge number!she was a fool to put them in a sack with a shovel...and then we don't know what to do... and kill the hand does not rise and we do not know where...one hope to find at least some information and save the pale animals....
help someone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From Ekaterinburg

06.10.2007 22:54, omar

Yes, leave them in this manure, let them spend the winter. They do not eat cucumbers and do no harm at all. I also got them in the compost this year, I left them.

10.10.2007 17:57, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

Or you can send all of them directly to me!
And I'll pass on a big hello from all sorts of grateful readers smile.gif(I'm serious).

10.10.2007 22:33, Coleopter

When I was a child, I met a rhinoceros beetle in a haystack. And so, as mentioned above, they are most often found in compost (and in a fairly rotten one)

09.03.2008 2:40, IchMan

The rhinoceros beetle was found en masse in the area of Sennaya Guba (~60 km from Petrozavodsk, Karelia) in a pile of rotted sawdust, etc., imago and larvae. And the northernmost find of my rhinoceros belongs to the national park "Paanajarvi" - 66° 20 ' N-on August 6, 2004 (the evening was quite warm), where the female flew into the firelight and was caught, photographed the next morning and released home... It is not entirely clear where it could have appeared there, but then we found out that a year before this discovery, a beetle was noted in the park in the village of Pyaozersky-80 km south of the location, where the sawmill is located, etc., but what could attract beetles even further north???
Does anyone else have more northern finds of this species?
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24.04.2008 0:04, guest: Гость

The rhinoceros beetle respects manure very much. Only in the waste of collective farms, he almost does not live, and in the manure from cattle in private farms, where cows put straw on the litter. And the cows are fed silage, which is with salt, and he will not live in this. Therefore, it is necessary to search for larvae in private farmsteads. In the middle lane, such manure is warmer and the beetles are larger. And in the south (approximately from Samara and further) will live in any dust.

24.04.2008 9:19, Guest

guys, does anyone know when the rhinoceros beetle season starts in Crimea???

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