What kind of butterflies are caught in Kovrigino (Pavlovsky Posad)?

Funny. In Turkey, not far from Kemer, on a mountain path, I also found a pack of envelopes, which means that insect lovers still walk along the same paths. They only hide from prying eyes, including from their fellow human beings

Were the envelopes empty?

Alas, empty
There were 20-30 pieces of them, and not each one separately, but stacked in a triangle in a whole stack. They were lying on the path and it was both amazing and pleasant to find them

An amazing case happened to me today (not fanatical entomologists will not understand). I went to ugad by train to the railway station.st Kovrigino in the Gorky direction - just take a walk, a new place to see. We are walking with my wife along a narrow path, and suddenly I look - scattered envelopes for butterflies are lying around. Well, wow! I haven't lost a single one in 20 years. And here in the Moscow region someone lost, and I stumbled. The probability is zero.
Since such things happen, then maybe the owner of the envelopes is a forum participant. If you suddenly come across my topic, write to me. It will be interesting to talk (at least I'm interested).
If not, which is most likely, then maybe who knows who can be caught there (from interesting representatives of lepidoptera)?
I just came here recently from the Ussuri region, on the day of departure from there I caught 20 pieces of Sephisa Dichroa, two Seokia Pratti in just three hours on the taiga road. So I relaxed a little, I didn't go anywhere in the Moscow region after my arrival. Maybe in vain? Still, I wonder who can be caught in Kovrigino?

Sergey, can I trade with you?

I periodically catch fish in those places. Used to be-often, there's my parents ' dacha. The last time was in mid-August, but the envelopes did not lose much that was overfished there, but mostly quite ordinary Moscow region species. There are swallowtails, among which there are occasionally almost white females with a wingspan of up to 100 mm. I caught Saturnia pavonia, Colias crocea, Colias myrmidone there. Well, there are different hawkmoths, pigeons, caudates, meadow nymphalids. A little further from p.Posada once met Satyrus dryas. In short, nothing special.

Dear Morozzz,
To change, you need to somehow find time, which is not particularly available yet. In addition, if you are interested in Seokia Pratti , then I only have 1 copy to exchange. But all sorts of Sephisa, Amuriana Schrenki, Bramea tancrei-always welcome. In general, what genera (families) Are you interested?
I still have some material left from Tajikistan.

Were the envelopes empty?

Empty, but no less pleasant.

!!! "A little further from p.Posada once met Satyrus dryas"!!!
Where and when???!!!

Yes, did you catch her? I wouldn't say it's "nothing special".

Most likely, a migrant. At the beginning of the XX century, there were several populations in the south of the Moscow province, then the range of the species retreated far to the south and now there are no dryads even in the Tula region

The last time I saw her was 2 years ago, but I couldn't catch her - the net was not at hand, and it was impossible to run after her, after sorting through the litter.

To Sergey Korolev - if possible, tell us, what is there in exchange for daily payments?

The last time I saw her was 2 years ago

And what, there were other times???

!!! "A little further from p.Posada once met Satyrus dryas"!!!
Where and when???!!!

It was a long time ago. July 8, 1993. Between the Drezna and 85 km platforms (now Kabanovo) on the northern side of the Gorkovskaya railway. The butterfly was caught, but at the moment it has not been preserved. Alas, kozheedy: - (To be honest, this capture didn't make a special impression on me then, because it was almost accidental, and times were difficult then and there was no time for butterflies.

It was a long time ago. July 8, 1993. Between the Drezna and 85 km platforms (now Kabanovo) on the northern side of the Gorkovskaya railway. The butterfly was caught, but at the moment it has not been preserved. Alas, kozheedy: - (To be honest, this capture didn't make a special impression on me then, because it was almost accidental, and times were difficult then and there was no time for butterflies.

And what, there were other times???

Yes, they were. But I don't run after butterflies, because I collect beetles. I take it, if only they themselves run into their hands. Besides, I didn't know it could be so cool at the time.

 

But I have a copy of Mnemosyne from Zheleznodorozhny, 9 km from the Moscow Ring Road...

Yes, they were. But I don't run after butterflies, because I collect beetles. I take it, if only they themselves run into their hands. Besides, I didn't know it could be so cool at the time.

Where did you see the instances? It would be very cool to find a population in the Moscow region... Although this is hardly possible, dryads, as I already wrote, even in the Tula region. no.

What can I say? I have repeatedly found beetles, which are not even south than through the region.

It's the same with some butterflies. Take Jutta, near Moscow, for example: now the nearest population is already known from the Novgorod region. But with Jutta, everything is quite clear: fortunately, there are still large swamp areas in the MO, and for sure we can find more than one population of the same jutta. The dryad is a different story: there are no forest-steppe habitats left south of the Oka River where the species can be found (and probably has been found there before).

This post was edited by lepidopterolog - 09/21/2007 15: 57

They stayed.

But on an extremely small scale: in my opinion, everything there is now plowed up and the primary forest-steppe is almost destroyed. But you should still search for the dryad population.

Primary-yes, but in many places the ongoing restoration is almost complete, because for more than half a century they have not plowed or mowed. That's just bollards

The secondary, restored forest-steppe is unlikely to be repopulated by the same insect species that used to live here (I'm not talking about the species that have recently expanded their range to the north).

The question on this topic is debatable. "Sometimes they return"

On August 16, 2007, I walked the route from the intersection of Gorkovsky Highway with the railway line Pavlovsky Posad-Elektrogorsk to platf. near the village. Kovrigino.. Exit to the route – descent along the southern slope from the highway rise (in front of the bridge over the railway, from the west. from the railway branch) to the railway-about 10.20. Further progress-to the south along the railway with two passes to the sides. The first passageway is to the west of the railway along a power line path (the northern one of the two that are shown on the map as intersecting the specified railway line); in fact, there is a whole node of power line paths, which can easily get confused, since the view is extremely difficult (the paths are very overgrown). Just north of the intersection of the railway branch with the northern of the power transmission lines to the east. on the side of the railway track there is a completely preserved platform about half a car long (previously used for disembarking and landing workers); currently, electric trains do not stop on it. From this platform (and when moving along the railway further to the south), smoke was clearly visible on the developed and sparsely wooded (even more blocked than overgrown) peat bogs on the eastern side of the railway. D., no closer than three hundred meters (despite the fact that on that day it was already officially announced that there were no peat fires within the Moscow region). At the intersection of the railway branch with the northern one of these power lines, two or three specimens of very fresh whitefish edusa (formerly daplidice) were recorded. On the power line itself, within one kilometer of the railway, there are now and then settled areas (on successful expositions), where red-winged rattles are common. On the edges along this and adjacent power lines, as well as in the nearest forest areas, porcini mushrooms are common (mostly very large and overripe). Mushroom pickers are not reliably marked. In general, homo sapiens is noted as rare, more females, mainly along the railway track in the southern part of the route. The weather is moderately hot, the sky is quite clear, but all along the route, except for the southernmost part near der. Kovrigino – - haze from peat fires, significantly limiting the penetration of sunlight. Because of the smoke, there were almost no insects. Both sexes of icarus are rarely found, a single circled male of virgaureae is noted, and dia is quite common, but only males (very fresh, third generation). Aglaja and adippe are not numerous. Before reaching the platform, I followed the path through the undergrowth to the east of the railway station to the outskirts of der. Kovrigino. There was taken some small thing like a male amanda. Nabryushnik, in which the bags are stored, after taking the next bag forgot to fasten (as is often the case), which I remembered only on the railway track, already approaching the railway station (either Kovrigino, or the 5th km). An inspection of the contents showed that neither the tweezers nor the bottle of potion for fauna harvesting had fallen out, and it would not have occurred to count the bags and look for them on the paths; obviously, they fell out immediately when passing through the woods back from Kovrigino to the railway (I had to hurry, since I could already get to the train). be late). By train-via platf. Lenskaya, Pavlovsky Posad and further to Moscow Kurskaya. To the attention of coleopterists: after Pavlovsky Posad, before reaching the next station, several hundred meters from the north side of the railway: trees were plentifully felled (they were clearing the exclusion zone at the railway), which, despite the proximity of the railway station, are located in the northern part of the city. they must be inhabited to some extent and produce crops for the coming year (by the way, even in the case of a spring fall in the exclusion zone, from which the logs can be fairly charred, coleoptera still survive and hatch). The big golden pine, for example, is perfectly bred from such logs and basks on their charred surfaces in the sun by the dozen. Yes, and other zlatki came across on such logs. Of course, there were also barbels.
I wish the person who found my bags a successful filling of them with valuable entomological material.

Miracles happen, you just have to notice them!
I am very pleased to read your detailed description.
That's just unfortunately I do every summer (July-August) I go on expeditions (private, that is, organized by myself as part of my father and me) and completely miss the season in Moscow. So I hope to fill your envelope with something like Parnassius bremeri, female Childrenia Zenobia penelope, or some interesting ssp. Parnassius charltonius-I want to go to the Pamirs again, you know. As Kaabak wrote, although there are few species there (not to compare with Primorye and other subtropics), they are too interesting and the search is also entertaining.

"Mushroom pickers are not reliably marked."
Right intelligence report of some kind

The main thing is that runaway soldiers do not get caught in the forest