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I'm afraid she has a hard time. Now sepsis will develop and that's all. A day or two will still live.

And why sepsis? because the legs were torn off?(
Can chlorhexidine anoint or green?

invite her a priest...

Is this a brand of St. Petersburg humor? The priest will have time. We Muscovites don't give up so easily.

People, I'm serious. She is beautiful. She has shiny wings and a reddish body. And green eyes. It's a pity if she's doomed. I'm good at caring for people, dogs, and cats. I've never seen a dragonfly before. I don't really know how or what works in her body. But she clung to my fingers as if she had nowhere else to go. Three times on the way home, I wanted to put her on a tree, grass, or ledge at home. And three times it, so completely still, began to nestle between my fingers, as if it knew that it was about to be removed from my hand.
If you can help with something other than dubious humor , I will be very grateful.

Most likely, the dragonfly is no longer a tenant. Seriously. So you can hardly help her, even if you want to.

When I encounter such expressions of altruism (I don't know what else to call it), I want to swear long, juicy and evil. Why aren't you still in Uganda, feeding the local hunger strikers? If you have nowhere to put your love for others, give money to a beggar, help orphanages, etc. There are hundreds of times more dragonflies in your city than children who have never eaten anything sweeter than carrots. People should be loved, but not... Ugh, it's disgusting to read...

Most likely. Sorry, beautiful. I read that they use their paws to catch their prey, so they wouldn't have been able to hunt any more anyway. Now it is sitting at the bottom of a large glass vase-ball, I threw a napkin there so that the remaining two paws do not slip. It seems to be still alive.

Varbus, drink a few drops of sedatives or something, otherwise the bile spill will happen... Everyone decides for themselves who and how to help. This is one time. You have no idea who or how I help. That's two.
You don't know the exact meaning of the smart words used - so at least don't be ashamed, this is not a mat for you, you need to look at the dictionary at least sometimes. Yes, and it is not recommended to be angry - it has a bad effect on digestion and karma.

don't be mad at us... But veterinary techniques for insects have not yet been developed.... healthy people are often not raised (but it is necessary for culture and experiment), and weakened ones - - - no one knows how...

  
Varbus, drink a few drops of sedatives or something, otherwise the bile spill will happen... Everyone decides for themselves who and how to help. This is one time. You have no idea who or how I help. That's two.
You don't know the exact meaning of the smart words used - so at least don't be ashamed, this is not a mat for you, you need to look at the dictionary at least sometimes. Yes, and it is not recommended to be angry - it has a bad effect on digestion and karma.

I've had a few drops, don't worry. The gallbladder seems to be intact.

Of course, everyone decides for themselves who and how to help. But it is your case, I'm not afraid of this word, kindergarten.

Altruism (Latin Alter — other) is a moral principle that prescribes unselfish actions aimed at the benefit and satisfaction of the interests of another person (other people). Wikipedia.

Yes, the smart word was used for the place and did not contradict the general meaning! No matter how much you want to prove otherwise. My digestion is normal, but I didn't find out the definition of "karma" during my time at the university.

This post was edited by Vabrus - 07.08.2009 22: 24

I'm not mad... I rarely get angry at all, it doesn't work out somehow

I know that fish are treated somehow, I thought-suddenly and insects too, I just don't know about the grayness... I saw grasshoppers and beetles without one or two legs, battered butterflies, but quite cheerful, I watched for several days, they did not fly far from the phlox in the country
The dragonfly is sitting very still... can I offer her a midge? Or is she in pain? Do they feel pain at all or not? I don't know anything about them(

It seems to be still alive.

I forgot to tell you - he's going to die soon.

  
The dragonfly is sitting very still... can I offer her a midge? Or is she in pain? Do they feel pain at all or not? I don't know anything about them(

Yes, they do. But not like us. Rather, they do not feel pain as such, but damage to tissues, integuments, etc.

Vagrus, my case is with a dragonfly? So I still help a lot of people, and very seriously and effectively, I have such a job and a hobby to match. And if after that their life changes for the better - what is the kindergarten here? And I felt sorry for the dragonfly - I love them very much, since childhood. I wanted to ask knowledgeable people for advice, but they started poking me with their nose, who and how to save it, Honestly, I'll figure it out myself somehow
In my case, the actions were aimed at saving the insect, where is the manifestation of altruism? The definition of altruism clearly binds it to people and nothing more.
Don't be offended, but you shouldn't judge a person by a couple of messages, and even more so, you shouldn't be so confident in making far-reaching "diagnoses". You will miss

I have tried to give serious answers to your serious questions. And you didn't even bother to write your humble servant's nickname correctly. Here, I had to poke my nose again. After all, there is nothing more to say in response.

Thank you for your answers With the nickname I didn't mean to, do you want me to write a whole line correctly?

Can I abuse your knowledge a little more?

should I feed her or not?
should I give you water somehow?
this is damage to the integument - it only causes her inconvenience, or ... I do not know if you will laugh at me again, but I will risk it... torment?

I mean, I want to understand that if it just fades away quietly, that's one thing. And if she is ill and in pain, can I help her in some way and how?

They get their moisture from food. They prefer to get food themselves and there's nothing to be done about it. Force-feeding a snake or lizard is one thing, feeding a dragonfly is quite another.
Torment-hardly.
The fact is that the life of the adult stage of insects is generally very short. Your dragonfly lived out the last month of its only summer. Before that, she managed to live as a larva for about 4 years.
I don't think there's anything I can do to help her. I have already written about this, but in a more categorical form.

I read about maggots. And about the only summer... I learned so much about dragonflies during the evening, while I was looking for something I could do to help her... A whole world, amazing

Thank you for your answers I don't think it hurts her either. But this is only a feeling, since I have zero knowledge

Why did the wasp attack her? Or was it the other way around, and the dragonfly didn't calculate its strength when it tried to devour the wasp? Surprisingly, the wasp is many times smaller, but at least something flew away, so fast...

dragonflies, they experience pain - because to say to experience damage, or pain, is just verbiage-pain is the feeling of damage, otherwise it is useless. But I am afraid that the sluggish dragonfly is not only from pain, but also probably because it got hurt not only from the wasp jaws that tore off its legs, but also from its sting... and here it is unlikely that anything will help... in principle, the dragonfly is most likely to blame itself - it apparently tried to eat the wasp itself, but it stood up for itself... and here is the result... it's smaller, but it's more agile, and it has a sting. Although of course the wasp is also a predator-theoretically it could attack itself, but-I don't think - the wasp is too small, even if it does, it is unlikely to drag it away to feed the larvae... I don't know about sepsis in a dragonfly, to be honest, but most likely - not a resident - I remember in the lab where we worked with fruit flies, accidentally injured flies died the next day. Eat, dragonflies, by the way, as if exclusively meat-if the fly does not eat try to give her a piece of minced meat-can eat...
and the fact that battered butterflies often fly quite briskly is because the wings of insects are dead-like our nails or hair, and even if they are torn off (not torn out with meat, of course), then it will be more like a haircut (for
loss of functions, of course not)

Thanks

I also assume that the wasp might have stung her. Very nimble wasp.
There is no minced meat, so there will be some kind of bug for dinner.

And then what can be anesthetized if it hurts? You can't give her a shot for sure
She also has a little head that's kind of on one side, and sometimes she's sitting in a bad mood and bouncing her paw rhythmically.
Here's Baldeika, she didn't have enough flies...

I had to watch dragonflies (rocker) and hornets fight a couple of times, and the wasps always came out the winners... so perhaps the wasps are the first to attack, sting, tear off the limbs and head, and lick the protruding hemolymph... that's what they do next with the body, I haven't seen
it, and you can't resuscitate a paralyzed dragonfly anymore, it's useless... and in any case, it doesn't have much left..

This post was edited by vituss - 07.08.2009 23: 55

Thank you... I brought her a booger, and she was quite still... even the paw doesn't twitch anymore. It doesn't respond to touch anymore. Looks like she's really paralyzed. Or died.
Only it's not a rocker, it's small, red-haired, a little brown. There are a lot of them in our park, but what wind brought it to the city, where there is no water... I don't know.
Thank you again to everyone who responded. And then I only know about ladybirds and spiders, but they somehow live in my house themselves

I had to watch dragonflies (rocker) and hornets fight a couple of times, and the wasps always came out the winners... so perhaps the wasps are the first to attack, sting, tear off the limbs and head, and lick the protruding hemolymph... that's what they do next with the body, I haven't seen
it, and you can't resuscitate a paralyzed dragonfly anymore, it's useless... and in any case, it doesn't have much left..

Dragonflies themselves "do not put your finger in your mouth" - first they attack, work with their jaws, and only then decide whether the victim is suitable for food.

I saw this picture. While I was fishing for P. apollo, one of the butterflies took to the air and was immediately attacked by a large yoke patrolling over the clearing. An unequal duel lasted in the air for a couple of seconds (apparently, while the "tasting" of this inedible prey was taking place). As a result, the butterfly fell to my feet without a hind wing (it glided away) and with the rest of the wings chewed, suitable only for ants to feed... I swore for a long time, in different ways and meaninglessly.

P.S. No other Apollo instance was affected.

I've always been fascinated by the way these rocker arms change course famously... only frrrrrr wings - and already turned 180 degrees! Yes, and for the finger they bite painfully. There was a case a couple of times, at the dawn of time. Serious insects

When I encounter such expressions of altruism (I don't know what else to call it), I want to swear long, juicy and evil. Why aren't you still in Uganda, feeding the local hunger strikers? If you have nowhere to put your love for others, give money to a beggar, help orphanages, etc. There are hundreds of times more dragonflies in your city than children who have never eaten anything sweeter than carrots. People should be loved, but not... Ugh, it's disgusting to read...

Guys...! Let's live together!

Everyone is free to feel sorry for and love anything.

You can be "crazy" about your favorite forest edge.

You can admire the beauty of the stone.
But the man... so sometimes I want this stone… With all the peacefulness . But nezz-ya-ya!

Aaata, beautifully said, and true.

I took the dragonfly for a walk with the dogs, took it to the park, to my favorite pond, and left it in the reeds. Now the wind, sun and goosebumps will do their job.
In the park, I saw an amazingly beautiful moth - now I will search the Internet for what it is called... And in general, this topic prompted me to learn more about insects. Of course, it is unlikely that I will catch them and dry them ( I shied away from this as a child), but it will certainly be interesting to learn more about them

Thank you all again The topic probably needs to be closed somehow, right?

dear forum author! You have accessed the wrong site. Here people gather mostly KILLING insects by the HUNDREDS!!! And you - how to save, treat, etc. It's like asking Chikatilo for medicine for a sick person - he will laugh and advise you to kill the poor guy. By the way, it's as simple as that, we probably don't exist as individuals for insects, so they are unlikely to appreciate your work...

dear forum author! You have accessed the wrong site. Here people gather mostly KILLING insects by the HUNDREDS!!! And you - how to save, treat, etc. It's like asking Chikatilo for medicine for a sick person - he will laugh and advise you to kill the poor guy. By the way, it's as simple as that, we probably don't exist as individuals for insects, so they are unlikely to appreciate your work...

Oh! I hear a voice from a familiar distance…
Well, here's a really dangerous extreme.
A typical example of leavened humanism and yellow-green concern, as always, illiterate and aggressive.

The message does not require deep analysis and, moreover, criticism.
But I'll ask you one thing. Do you REALLY NOT see the difference between the actions of entomologists who are forced to kill insects for scientific purposes, and the atrocities of maniacs who enjoy cruelty? Or is it just a convenient and, apparently, bright word stamp designed for a specific audience?