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Where can you find butterflies, caterpillars or pupae in mid-March?

Community and ForumInsects biology and faunisticsWhere can you find butterflies, caterpillars or pupae in mid-March?

Martix, 20.03.2011 12:55

Can you tell me if it is possible to find caterpillars, pupae or butterflies in mid-March(Ukraine-Zaporizhia region)?

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20.03.2011 13:27, Egorus

for Martix
, moths (scoops and moths) are already flying towards the light. It is not known what
opportunities and experience you have in fishing, and what butterflies you are interested in.
After a couple of days, you can also drive daytime ones...
More specifically, if you orient yourself in the area, then you can also suggest more specific fishing spots.
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20.03.2011 13:55, Martix

Now I am in the village of Velika Znamenka. I don't really know how to catch butterflies)) I'm more interested in where to find pupae, for example, under the bark of some trees... But you tell me everything you know, including about butterflies) Thank you.

20.03.2011 14:51, Egorus

You have set yourself a difficult task... The pupa is a stationary object,
in most cases hidden from prying eyes, and therefore the object
is difficult to detect smile.gif
Now I will write in PM.
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20.03.2011 22:30, okoem

Can you tell me if it is possible to find caterpillars, pupae or butterflies in mid-March(Ukraine-Zaporizhia region)?

It depends on what interests you.
White squirrel pupae can easily be collected on walls, fences, etc.
In the cracks of the bark, rocks, in any loose lichens - caterpillars of lichen scoops.
Some lichenophage caterpillars can be impaled from tree branches.
Under the rocks, you can find caterpillars of various scoops, sometimes shrews.
In the Crimea, in March, you can also collect caterpillars of some bagworms.
You can try to look for satyr caterpillars in the grain curtains, but they are still small. In addition, there can easily be found scoop caterpillars.
On the branches of fruit trees there may be podaliriya pupae. At the base of the trunks and under various objects cocoons of pear saturnia.
Under the roofs of barns, various temporary shelters - nymphalid pupae.
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20.03.2011 22:41, Martix

Thank you all very much=) I will go along with the camera and search=)) If I find something, I'll post a report with photos smile.gif

21.03.2011 1:22, Hierophis

Martix, I went on sorties, including today, or rather yesterdaysmile.gif, and so, on the ground-everything is covered with tracks! There are just a lot of them there, and very different, but it is desirable to find something like norms. steppes or something far away from the fields.
Daytime butterflies need to be clear, quiet and warm. Only while something is wrong with this, this trinity will not get together for a long time, and so far it is not going to get together smile.gif
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21.03.2011 9:33, Martix

Eh...) I will also try to get out somewhere today smile.gif

24.03.2011 10:36, Martix

So... I found a lot of things, but not what I wanted ((A sleepy wasp, some flies, someone's egg laying... I found a lot of spider eggs and spiders themselves in their cocoon, so so far my search is fruitless( It's probably easier to find caterpillars in the summer and feed them smile.gif

24.03.2011 11:39, Виктор Синяев

Can you tell me if it is possible to find caterpillars, pupae or butterflies in mid-March(Ukraine-Zaporizhia region)?

What are you looking for?, out. I looked in the refrigerator.... and there they are... and saturnia, and bramea. and hawk moth with bears...
In general. sledges should be prepared from the summer!
With good wishes...
P.S. in the attics and cellars you can pick up nymphalids ... wintering. But it's not for needles. and for fun: watch, feed and release... In summer, the quality will be great!

This post was edited by Viktor Sinyaev - 03/24/2011 11: 42
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24.03.2011 12:05, Martix

Of course, it's best to go to the refrigerator for the pupae, I would like that nowsmile.gif, but I think I'll prepare everything this year) I don't want it for needles at all, but for photography, and then I'll let it go=) And in general, now I am most attracted to pupae, then less to caterpillars and butterflies O_o, why would that be... Probably because they are the least often met=)

24.03.2011 14:08, Hierophis

Martix, that well, in the refrigerator-it's not interesting, it's better to find in nature, even if not commercial fat saturnia ))) a corner-wing, but native, local smile.gif
By the way, since the beginning of April, and maybe earlier, we (and you as well) it will roast so much that I think all the animals that should be there will already be there, including swallowtails and podalirias, polyxenes and all sorts of whiteflies, latonias, day peacocks and angletwings, and who else I forgot there.
But the probability of finding a pupa reduces all this - all hatch, and then you have to wait almost until the summer. I just wanted to find a polyxena pupa recently - I searched everything where there were a lot of them - I didn't find them!
In general, now finding a pupa is really the most difficult thing, the fact is that most butterflies pupate in the ground during the winter, and it's just an accident to find them. And for those who pupate not in the ground, such as sailboats, nymphalids, it is a great success to stay whole until spring, since there are so many people who want to find them in nature! For birds, for example, the food is excellent, and even in the package, and how many of them die simply from "accidents" ...
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24.03.2011 17:15, Martix

I agree-nature is much more interesting=)) Well, I will wait, and then start a photo hunt for everything that moves=)))
Although in principle, you can still find some kind of winter caterpillar… But just look for them in the same place as the pupae right?

This post was edited by Martix - 24.03.2011 17: 20

24.03.2011 18:10, Alexandr Zhakov

In a few days, it will be possible to find caterpillars of overwintered bears in the steppe areas, they are easy to find. Pupate in a few weeks, in early May butterfly. I can suggest interesting places in your area.
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24.03.2011 18:57, Martix

Djon, very interesting, tell me, I will be very grateful smile.gif

24.03.2011 20:11, Alexandr Zhakov

I responded by email.
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24.03.2011 20:59, okoem

I just wanted to find a polyxena pupa recently - I searched everything where there were a lot of them - I didn't find them!

Polyxena practically does not pupate on kirkazone. Caterpillars before pupation spread far to the sides.

But just look for them in the same place as the pupae right?

See URL 5#

24.03.2011 21:35, Martix

24.03.2011 22:15, Hierophis

okoem, well, I was looking around, of course I wasn't looking very far.

By the way, I just almost found a dustpan in my room like this, quite interesting in appearance, with fluffy mustaches. I took a picture and bitten the bird, although the scoop was a little unlucky during the photo shoot - it was bitten by a copperhead-this will probably be a unique experience for all scoops of this kind, it will be passed down from generation to generation)))
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24.03.2011 22:24, Guest

geometrid.
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24.03.2011 22:24, okoem

Well, maybe there are some other features...) Just before you go on a normal search, you want to be well prepared for information =)

Each species has its own characteristics. To find out about the specific features of a particular species, you also need to ask about that species. I do not know what "normal" searches are, but for effective searches, you need to know exactly what type to look for where and when.

Hierophis
is a moth, Apocheima hispidaria like...
Polyxenes can easily crawl ten meters away.

This post was edited by okoem - 03/24/2011 22: 26
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24.03.2011 22:36, svm2

It's a moth, Apocheima hispidaria sort of...

Actually, pilosaria

This post was edited by svm2 - 24.03.2011 22: 37
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24.03.2011 22:41, Hierophis

Wow, this is also a moth, and even from those who have females without wings, probably the antennae are such that the female can be found smile.gif

24.03.2011 22:47, Martix

Hierophis, did you come out of a chrysalis or something?

24.03.2011 22:52, Hierophis

Martix, no, she flew into the room from the street. In general, moths have been flying for a long time, but before there were ordinary ones, which usually always appear in the spring, and this was not smile.gifyet the case. Wingless females of such moths are even more difficult to find than pupae.

24.03.2011 23:01, Guest

Like what?

24.03.2011 23:23, Hierophis

Such wingless female moths, which females are wingless )))
By the way, it turns out that those moths that usually fly in our country in early spring and winter, probably these:

http://www.gardensafari.net/pics/nachtvlin...ta_hs3_5025.jpg

also, the females are wingless like, and the antennae of the males are ordinary.

25.03.2011 0:19, okoem

By the way, wingless females of such moths are even more difficult to find than pupae.

It depends on what types. If there are dendrophils, then it is not very difficult to collect females. Screen in one hand, beater in the other-and go wink.gif
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10.04.2011 23:43, Romik

But it's interesting: who has ever found mnemosyne caterpillars ? Which year I try to see them, but I don't find weep.gifanything Tufts are full, blooms already, butterflies fly every year in this place, a lot, but there are no caterpillars....

11.04.2011 12:21, Aaata

But it's interesting: who has ever found mnemosyne caterpillars ? I've been trying to see them for years, but I can't find weep.gifanything: The tufts are full, it's already blooming, butterflies fly every year in this place, there are a lot of them, but there are no caterpillars....

They write that they feed at night and hide during the day... So you don't find it. In the thickets of the tuft, but at night with a flashlight to walk around. Or during the day thoroughly stir up leaf litter and other possible shelters. But it is better to do this later, when the caterpillars grow up a little and become more noticeable.

This post was edited by Aaata - 11.04.2011 12: 28
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11.04.2011 12:39, okoem

They write that they feed at night and hide during the day...

If you are active at night, then probably the easiest way is to mow at night.

11.04.2011 12:48, Aaata

If you are active at night, then probably the easiest way is to mow at night.

And that's true...

12.04.2011 1:15, Romik

Thank you for an interesting article, c c legg yes.gif

I also thought that the biology of mnemosyne caterpillars should be similar to apollo (daytime activity).

15.04.2011 18:48, Martix

I never found the pupa or caterpillar... smile.gif Although no, I found, even a lot of pupae, or rather not quite, but only the dry skin frown.gifof the caterpillar overwinters, then immediately pupate? Or can they still look for food plants and continue to eat? And maybe there are already some new egg caterpillars? If so, what plants should I look for them on? Thanks smile.gif

This post was edited by Martix - 04/15/2011 18: 51

15.04.2011 20:00, okoem

  I never found the pupa, the caterpillar... smile.gif.....


Please understand, Anton, there is no such thing as an abstract "caterpillar". Each butterfly/caterpillar species has its own biological characteristics.

frown.gif Don't the caterpillars spend the winter and then immediately pupate? Or can they still look for food plants and continue to eat? And maybe there are already some new egg caterpillars? If so, what plants should I look for them on?

It happens that they spend the winter. It happens that they eat further. Sometimes new ones come out of the eggs.
You can (and should) search on any plants.
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15.04.2011 22:00, Martix

"Caterpillar-myth or reality?" lol.gif
I'll continue my search anyway)

16.04.2011 15:04, Kharkovbut

Reality, reality.
14.04.11. Volgograd.
M. orientalis
IE. orientalis - or did I not understand something? smile.gif
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12.05.2011 13:40, Martix

So... I haven't found any caterpillars or pupae yet. Blind Probably smile.gifExcept that the butterflies laid eggs, and the caterpillars hatched at Easter, I hope they will pupate soon. How do you even look for them confused.gifTo inspect every stick, every leaf? So it is possible to sit for hours under a bush and not find anything... smile.gif Please make recommendations for the nearest future wall.gif

12.05.2011 14:56, okoem

So... I haven't found any caterpillars or pupae yet.

How?! eek.gif
It's caterpillar season! They are innumerable, it is more difficult to meet a plant without caterpillars than with caterpillars! At the end of April, I scored a hundred in half an hour.
You just don't notice them, probably lack of experience.

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12.05.2011 15:05, Martix

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