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DYNASTES, 16.05.2014 15:17

The habitat of the Field cricket Gryllus campestris was found in Davice. I would love to add them to the collection, but the reptiles sit in holes and hide in them at the slightest disturbance. You can't catch it in time. Especially in the midst of thick grass.

I'm interested in who used what methods to collect them. Maybe they use some traps or the like.

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16.05.2014 15:48, Vlad Proklov

The habitat of the Field cricket Gryllus campestris was found in Davice. I would love to add them to the collection, but the reptiles sit in holes and hide in them at the slightest disturbance. You can't catch it in time. Especially in the midst of thick grass.

I'm interested in who used what methods to collect them. Maybe they use some kind of traps, etc.

Piss in a hole and it will come out.

16.05.2014 16:50, vafdog

I just used a big knife to dig up the hole and pull it out, they were sitting 10 cm from the surface.

16.05.2014 17:06, Alexandr Zhakov

Yes, this is much more hygienic wink.gif

16.05.2014 18:57, vasiliy-feoktistov

Vlad's method makes sense to apply. Only the liquid must be replaced with water shuffle.gif
Approximately so we in the army of tarbagans (such marmots) from burrows "poured out" - it worked wink.gifAnd should work on crickets.
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16.05.2014 19:55, Hierophis

Catch a cricket from a mink, if it's inside - it's very simplewink.gif, Nothing to pour there is unnecessary)) But in the collection.. sorry frown.gif weep.gif

16.05.2014 21:50, DYNASTES

Vlad's method makes sense to apply. Only the liquid must be replaced with water shuffle.gif
Approximately so we in the army of tarbagans (such marmots) from burrows "poured out" - it worked wink.gifAnd should work on crickets.


tried to pour somewhere probably 300-400 ml. no one ever got out of the hole in which I climbed. I think maybe the burrow has 2 exits?

I couldn't dig it out, I tried it - I only bent the garden spatula. a meadow with a large number of plants, a dense root system, it is almost impossible to dig.

16.05.2014 22:09, vafdog

tried to pour somewhere probably 300-400 ml. no one ever got out of the hole in which I climbed. I think maybe the burrow has 2 exits?

I couldn't dig it out, I tried it - I only bent the garden spatula. a meadow with a large number of plants, a dense root system, it is almost impossible to dig.

so I literally cut with a knife

16.05.2014 23:03, Hierophis

tried to pour somewhere probably 300-400 ml. no one ever got out of the hole in which I climbed. I think maybe the burrow has 2 exits?

I couldn't dig it out, I tried it - I only bent the garden spatula. a meadow with a large number of plants, a dense root system, it is almost impossible to dig.

Tin) I tried pouring it out in junior high)) To pour out the cricket, you need approx. 3 liters of water to have with you, of course there are no second exits..

17.05.2014 12:24, Dima DD

I remember quite vaguely (it was a very long time ago, when I was still a schoolboy), but I managed to catch it by slightly guarding the living hole and how the ends of the whiskers would appear from it, sharply sticking a shovel with the right slope and cutting the passage under the insect. But you need endurance and patience to stand for a while completely motionless in the pose of a girl with an oar. smile.gif

17.05.2014 21:34, stierlyz

The ambush method is effective. But you can also put soil traps, when I put them, hundreds of different species and ages fell there. I don't believe that it's impossible to dig in the meadow, I dug clay in the steppe in the summer - it's too slow, it's not fun, but it's possible.
P.S. You would also tell the diggers in the cemetery that it is difficult to dig a hole...
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18.05.2014 6:29, Hierophis

In general, it's cool that no one writes about the method that I was taught, especially since a real biologist taught me this)) which, in turn, was dedicated to entomologists)) Toli method really secret, toli entomologists, aww ))

He is a sinner, and caught so for food zhmenyami, but THEN OK for food)))) For the collection and pour can be, 5min. and the cricket comes out wink.gif
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24.05.2014 10:49, PVOzerski

Roman, but it's simple: there are no field crickets in our northern St. Petersburg region - so I didn't develop this skill as a child. And I read about the" pouring " of crickets with water in some art book by a Vietnamese writer smile.gif- there these animals (males) are pitted against each other and bets are placed on themsmile.gif. It is clear that there are not G. campestris, but other species, but the principle should work the same.

31.05.2014 19:23, DanMar

Hello everyone Catching a cricket is still easy, you need quite a bit of patience, you need to wait for 5 minutes, Roman thanks a lot for not disclosing a great way to catch them smile.gifWho is in the topic, he will guess, the same method is used by the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans - fans of cricket fights- "tease" males for a fight smile.gif. Interestingly, females also react to this, and when I gave a female a drink from a syringe dripping near her, she responded just as furiously and tried to bite the metal needle of the syringe with her mandibles smile.gif.

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01.06.2014 9:58, Hierophis

And females react and are caught in exactly the same way as males ))

01.06.2014 12:28, Dima DD

Is that poking a blade of grass into a hole?

07.09.2014 17:07, Mantispid

It's funny that no one has written about the simplest and most effective method. It is necessary to pluck the grass growing nearby and expose it. Leaving something like a small brush at the top. We put it in the hole and shake it slightly. As soon as the cricket grabs a blade of grass, you need to pull it out abruptly. That's all there is to it.
I caught hundreds of crickets using this method)
Good luck!
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08.09.2014 14:20, Penzyak

Well, I don't know about you on a blade of grass, I didn't catch it... this is probably the type of method that offers tarantulas from burrows on a string with a ball of plasticine to pull - we tried it, shit for sure...
We just pour out the steppe crickets with water (a banal poltorashka is enough)... you grab it from above by the pronotum and into the jar. As a student with a friend, we once had fun on an expedition, we will pour out a male cricket, let it spit from the water and once in the next burrow.... if the female is bad there, the man will not come out... and if it's a male then I'll tell you another show!!! The owner begins to expel the alien with a terrible chirping and jumping... they bite off their sawyers and paws... here's where to place your bets... as a rule, the owner wins, but if the aggressor is larger, then he scores a small one...
But this year, in the month of July, I encountered a small collonia of some smallish crickets (two times smaller than the field cricket - but larger than the lobate one!??).
it was like this... In July (on the 20th), being on field practice with botanists and students, we went to the junction of the Ulyanovsk, Saratov and Penza regions... Botanists desperately needed to find a salt marsh that at the beginning of the last century was described by Keller under the village of Mansurovka.... At that time, the Neverskinsky district (Penza Region) was still part of the Saratov province... Well, one day we gathered and left the village of Bikmurzino for Mansurovskaya Balka on the nine of our graduate Mikhail Shcherbakov... They disembarked in a beam from the car and Misha led them across the river to look for a salt marsh (of course they didn't find it without me... ). I stayed behind to comb the spurs of the gullies and the main banks of the Sormino River... I had to wait for them for 6 hours... I just swore. I combed through all the interesting places and in the evening I caught the Arethusa satyrs lying on the givas in their bedpans for the night... He stopped at the edge of the slope... I stand admiring the evening steppe... All of a sudden, I hear the sound of wildcats - not fillies and grasshoppers-literally right under my feet on the slope of the south-eastern exposure... "singers" is clearly somewhere in the slope dotted with many cracks... but at a rustle they lurk... pancake had been looking for them for forty minutes... here it seems low so crickets... I creep up empty... Somehow tracked it down... this creature first sticks out its head with a mustache in the crack... waiting... then he climbs out himself... lifts the back of the body spreads the elytra and begins to sing... how many times I didn't try to catch it... stupid! immediately goes into the crack-poured into one or two five-liter bottles... Stupid! I tried to stick a net stick in the crack... he jumps down the slope to catch up... In general, I'm like that fox and crow... I never caught it... the nerds are back... and the view is clearly new to us!!!? Here's a photo of that slope...

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08.09.2014 14:43, Hierophis

Come on! Tarantulas on the ball are caught perfectly, well, if you give approximately statistics, then for 10 minks, well, maybe a maximum of two will not be caught.

28.11.2014 21:19, Трофим

They don't go for the ball. Moldovan peace-loving =). I only went once. There, either the ball should get stuck well in the chelicerae, but this plasticine is needed with a combination of both softness and stickiness. The first can be achieved well by kneading plasticine, but on the second point - alas. As it bites, it also easily breaks down. Therefore, literally next to the tarantula mink, I dug a depression (this must be done beforehand), and then filled it with water, and when leaving the mink, I blocked the passage below with a knife. Tarantula usually climbs out of the water with a "fright" only the first time, and then how many leys above 5 cm from the exit of the mink does not climb out, even if you maintain the water level, but so it can go away indefinitely, you will not get enough.

08.08.2015 15:04, ИНО

I don't know how in Crimea, which is Ukraine, but in Donetsk every kid aged 7-9 years can catch a field cricket. Without any water, knives, teasing blades of grass and other things. We take a piece of straight smooth stick, about the diameter of a burrow. We listen to where the nearest cricket screams (often the burrow is right on the path). Me-e-e-slow creep, so as not to startle. We try to make sure that nothing crunches under our feet. If it stops talking, we stop. Stridulation usually resumes after a maximum of half a minute. Before reaching a couple of steps to the burrow, we bend down and sharply vertically lower our wand, closing the entrance. That's all, then you can take the cricket calmly, but carefully, because it bites. I did this last time when I was 10-11 years old. Because it's a child's way. And for adults, there is an adult: we take a head-mounted LED flashlight, and move out to the cricket habitat at night. There you will find both males and females in large numbers, including far from burrows. And even those who stay close lose their former caution completely. I don't want to catch it. But I personally am not interested in fishing, it is more interesting to make a movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-tBGQLqFZk

About pouring water: I tried this stuff once when I was a kid. I poured out two liters - all to no avail. Then he dug up the hole with a knife. Its length was only 20 centimeters, but the shape was the letter "G". That is, at the end of the straight course with a slope to the bottom, a small knee went sideways and slightly up. There the cricket sat in the dryness, while all the water went into the bottomless hole of the capillaries of the dry chernozem. It seems that it was possible to pour more than one bucket with the same result. Therefore, I believe that the water method of extracting crickets is different, at least in relation to the steppe zone.

About putting a blade of grass in the hole: I did it many times to determine the depth and angle of inclination of the hole. I didn't even know that this way you can tease the cricket and make it "bite". The crickets didn't know it either... Moreover, the method with a blade of grass was used by me to differentiate tarantula burrows from those of other animals: if when drilling in a hole with a blade of grass, blows were felt on it, a conclusion was made. that it's a tarantula hole. I don't recall a single instance of a cricket grabbing a blade of grass. So obviously our crickets are a different system. I'll have to check again, though. It's a pity, imago field crickets have already moved away, we'll have to wait until next year.

On tarantulas: we don't have many of them, but we used to have more (until their station was built up with a parking lot). I remember that only small fish were caught on plasticine or gum on a string. The large autumn female kept letting go of the ball easily and easily over and over again, day after day, and recently she just beat it with her front legs without even biting. I tried tying a filly to a string. I was holding her so tightly that her body just tore apart when I tried to pull the string. In the end, everything was decided by a shovel.

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08.08.2015 17:26, Hierophis

I don't know how in Crimea, which is Ukraine, but in Donetsk every kid aged 7-9 years can catch a field cricket. Without any water, knives, teasing blades of grass and other things. We take a piece of straight smooth stick, about the diameter of a burrow. We listen to where the nearest cricket screams (often the burrow is right on the path). Me-e-e-slow creep, so as not to startle. We try to make sure that nothing crunches under our feet. If it stops talking, we stop. Stridulation usually resumes after a maximum of half a minute. Before reaching a couple of steps to the burrow, we bend down and sharply vertically lower our wand, closing the entrance. That's all, then you can take the cricket calmly, but carefully, because it bites.

Then it was my turn to be surprised - harsh people in Donetsk, even boys of 7-9 years old, if they can pierce the ground with a stick, especially on the path, which is often like concrete ))

In general, if Esox is not only a writer, then he could also read that such a method was also mentioned, but this does not always work because of the hardness of the soil, sometimes it does not work with a knife..

And when did the tarantulas appear in Donetsk, but they are "not there"? )))

08.08.2015 21:29, ИНО

You're wearing galyuns again, Roma. I wonder if there is at least sometimes such a state of your mind when they are not there? I just looked into a jar of alcohol - there is a huge female tarantula caught in 2007, the same one for which I had to use a shovel to get it. So if either of us has a problem dealing with objective reality, it's definitely not me. This person also has severe memory problems, because I described the incident with the tarantula to you in detail by email, as well as the situation with tarantulas in Donetsk. Indeed, now we can say that there are no tarantulas (in the Kirovsky district, the city, otherwise they will come running now with evidence that there are plenty of tarantulas in other parts of Donetsk, as well as swallowtails, and I am blind). But this " no " only means that the population density is below the detection limit. That is, it is more correct to formulate as I formulated in the previous post: we have few tarantulas, but before there were more. What's not clear? Besides, you have problems with logical thinking. What makes you think that in the childish method of catching a cricket described by me, you need to poke something with a stick, especially the ground? It is enough just to block the entrance to the burrow with it when the cricket is outside. Unlike the female bear, the stridulating male field cricket usually moves a few centimeters away from its burrow. But at the slightest rustle, he flees into it with lightning speed. A stick, or rather a small stick, quickly lowered vertically prevents this. This is elementary, Watson.(С)

08.08.2015 21:54, Hierophis

Poor tarantula.. And what kind of view?

About the crickets moving away from the burrow so that you can close them up and get close to them, well, well..
Intersno, who how many crickets so spoymal-I have not one, you can collect them near the burrows in February, or early March, when they climb out to bask, and very slow. But how many times have I seen crickets crawl so far away from their burrows?. I didn't see it.
Danmar, did you catch them like this ? smile.gif

08.08.2015 21:56, Hierophis

By the way, Esox, do you have problems with logic, memory, and objective reality? No, just-who has what hurts, that's what he says)))

08.08.2015 22:31, ИНО

Not so poor - he lived almost until spring in my bank. There was no cocoon. Unfortunately, I don't know why. Lycosa singoriensis.

I repeat from the crickets: we can see the crickets of the wrong system, and they move away from the minks, and the bulldogs do not rush to the blades of grass like bulldogs. Maybe different types? Then the question is: whose is the new one? But seriously, someone who eats too much has too slow a reaction, and even not enough care to approach the singing male at a distance that allows you to see that he is still moving away from the hole by several centimeters, and not sitting in it like a male bear. Vaughn, watch my nighttime video to make sure. However, there he was a little further away than is usually the case during the day, and sensitivity to the vibrations of the ground caused by footsteps, almost completely lost. Therefore, you could not even sneak up, but stupidly approach, put your bag on the ground, get out your camera and shoot. This trick won't work during the day. And in the spring, yes, larvae can be collected slowly. Especially if it's a cool day. If you can just spot them, they don't chirp.

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08.08.2015 22:36, Hierophis

No, well, at night you can catch tarantulas outside the burrows, but you caught at least one cricket in the daytime, as every kid knows how to catch? )))

08.08.2015 22:43, ИНО

How many crickets have I caught? I don't have a memory like yours, of course, but even it can't reproduce such details from my childhood. I caught a lot of it, otherwise I wouldn't have written it. There was no reason for me to catch hundreds of them, since I did not suffer from a craving for flaying, and I had no one to feed insects then. And, in my opinion, like a small field cricket, not very much: from his huge head, my eublephar was constipated. Except for the bird-eaters. And then it will be on the verge of extreme: it is not known who will eat whom. Still, the field cricket monster is still the same, no comparison with different forage crops. But I repeat, almost every boy here knows how to catch crickets in this way (or rather, he did during my childhood, but he wasn't interested in it now). So even if not by me, but they caught thousands of copies, if not millions.

When we had quite a lot of tarantulas, I didn't go to the night school yet. And when I started walking, I didn't see a single tarantula. But crickets saw so many and such sizes (females) that at first the eyes on the forehead climbed.

This post was edited by ENO-08.08.2015 22: 45

08.08.2015 22:52, Hierophis

Judging by the long sheet)) so let's write it down - Ezox never caught crickets in the way he described above. Otherwise, he would simply have written briefly and clearly-yes, I caught crickets in the above way wink.gif

We also had such a thing in school time - to catch crickets, there were also attempts to catch them at the entrance to the burrow, I don't remember that someone came out, it was possible to catch them reliably only by pouring them out, it is possible, but it is difficult, you need to drag a lot of water to the burrow )

08.08.2015 23:07, ИНО

So let's write down Chukcha Roma-a writer, and reading is for the rabble. If you've caught some, then you've caught some. But I don't remember exactly how much, I'm sorry. I should have kept an account book specifically to report to you. If we proceed from such a presumption of distrust of the interlocutor, then we can write it down like this: Roma has never been to the steppe, never bred a copper pot, and in general Roma is a transvestite woman from Holland. Here is the fact that you did not get any lamp nest of nymphs-this is almost 100% a fact, otherwise you would have already posted 100500 photos. And the method of catching a cricket described by me is practically a classic.

Penzyak, the cricket you described, by any chance, is not like this:

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08.08.2015 23:14, Hierophis

. If you've caught a lot, then you've caught a lot. But I don't remember exactly how much, I'm sorry.

Ezoooks... Not Julia! No one asked you how many of them you caught, but this is what I asked you

08.08.2015 23:31, ИНО

To a person who stubbornly refuses to read and understand my elementary simple phrases, I am powerless to answer.

09.08.2015 5:14, Hierophis

To a person who stubbornly refuses to read and understand my elementary simple phrases, I am powerless to answer.

Brrr..
Somehow it does not look like an elementary simple phrase "To a person who stubbornly refuses to read" lol.gif)))

How many crickets have I caught?

Nah, so how many crickets did you catch with a cricket??

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