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Why do xylocopts dig holes?

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ИНО, 03.08.2015 4:47

On two occasions (23.08.2011 and 09.10.2013), Xylocopa sp.was observed in earthen burrows. (it was not possible to determine up to the species, or X. valga, or X. violacea). What is this, such an unusual nesting option or a winter burrow, like a bumblebee? But all the literary sources I've come across agree that they spend the winter in their nests. I met the explanation of xylocop finds in the ground by the fact that there were supposedly tree roots there, and already nests in them. In my case, this explanation is not appropriate. The first hole, although it was dug in an oak forest, but at a decent distance from the nearest tree and was quite shallow (it was at the beginning of the digging process) - it did not reach the roots:

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The second one is located in a clay slope away from woody vegetation:

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And here is a similar photo from the Macroid: http://macroclub.ru/macroid/show_image.php?imageid=60965

And from another resource (the author is clearly far from entomology, so it makes sense to look only at photos, they do not lie): http://www.putnik.nkorol.ru/franc/page_9.html

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03.08.2015 10:51, Hierophis

Poor Ezox, now he also applies additional proofs everywhere smile.gif

Yes, I have seen a lot of such situations in our country, xylocops dig burrows in April in clay slopes and cliffs.
And about proxilocop, why not? Maybe this is really another species that has not yet been specified, well, or ethological features of the xylocop known to us. I see this almost every season)

03.08.2015 13:00, Кархарот

Most likely, wintering holes, I saw this in September more than once. And I've never seen them spend the winter in their nests! The nests are empty in August.
I don't know why they dig in April, but I also saw them once (maybe they dig back into their den if it's still cold?).
And proxilocopa looks like not at all.
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03.08.2015 14:06, Hierophis

Well, the possibility that these are nesting holes is, of course, minimal)
In the story about xylocop on the link of Ezox, it says about July, if this is so, then it's strange, it's too late for digging from the winter season, it's too early for burying. So it's not clear.
We have a place where in the spring xylocops are especially numerous on clay slopes, so by the fall they should dig their holes there, you need to look..

Again, another way to check is to find the xylocope's output nest and wait for the nesting cycle to complete.. well, then you need to somehow move it home and cover it with a grid, see what the descendants will do.

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03.08.2015 14:28, Кархарот

it is too early for instillation.

Not a fact, they can start preparing in advance. In addition, Ancistrocerus nigricornis, with the same life cycle, is hiding around this time.
Again, another way to check is to find the xylocope's output nest and wait for the nesting cycle to complete.. well, then you need to somehow move it home and cover it with a grid, see what the descendants will do.
All the X. valga nests we found in winter were empty. I do not know where such data came from in the CC. I do not have the opportunity to specifically find out the features of xylocop wintering, since this is not exactly my research topic, and I am not interested in studying "from the top". So, go for it...

03.08.2015 15:00, Hierophis

Here's what I found about wintering, but about purple xylocopa. At the very bottom, the conclusions are in English, the essence there in general is that this xylocopa overwinters in nests, wintering is observed both in its own cells and in the nests of offspring. But about valga I still haven't found something about wintering.

http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Salvat...6b9ab000000.pdf

03.08.2015 15:05, Hierophis

I do not have the opportunity to specifically find out the features of xylocop wintering, since this is not exactly my research topic

Or there is no desire wink.gif
In principle, it would be possible to do something "along the way", especially since it is usually easier for real, practicing entomologists to do this, since there are supervised nesting centers, biological stations for observations, knowledge of methods, not like amateurs)

03.08.2015 16:27, Кархарот

Or there is no desire wink.gif

This is almost the same thing - there is a greater desire to do other things, and there is no time left for xylocop.

Yes, interesting, and nothing about wintering in the ground... What are they doing there then? By the way, has anyone ever seen X. violacea burrowing? I've only seen X. valga.

Empty X. valga nests in winter, of course, do not prove anything yet, since they can spend the winter in neighboring cane stalks or logs. In general, gentlemen entomologists, - you will see xylocopuses burrowing into the ground once again-put marks and dig up in the winter!

03.08.2015 16:31, Кархарот

Again, another way to check is to find the xylocope's output nest and wait for the nesting cycle to complete.. well, then you need to somehow move it home and cover it with a grid, see what the descendants will do.

By the way, Roma, this is not an option - in any case, they will try to get out of there, as they spend a long time in nature before wintering, eat, and"fatten up". So, we need to think of something else. You need a large number of nests and suitable cavities in one place, and check each hole in winter, plus dig a few holes in the ground: a few days after their discovery and in winter. Then it will be possible to draw some definite conclusions.

03.08.2015 16:34, Кархарот

On http://www.putnik.nkorol.ru/franc/page_9.html also X. valga.

03.08.2015 16:35, Hierophis

That's the thing that this is about purple, and we have it, judging by the data, is very rare, although in Western Europe it is noted almost everywhere. in order to be sure who is burrowing, you also need to catch and determine, there they seem to be easily distinguished by their antennae, but you need to catch, and data about the wintering of valga , specific, as in this article, could not be found.

Empty nests can be, and because all xylocops in other nests are sitting smile.gif

03.08.2015 16:46, Кархарот

They also differ well in their hind legs, and this feature is clearly visible in the two photos on the link. But ENO's photo doesn't show what's in there.
Although, yes, in/in Ukraine X. violacea is difficult to meet, they say, a rare species. But in the Crimea, it is almost everywhere more than X. valga, and at the same time, all burrowers that I saw were X. valga. So, there is something to think about.

Empty nests can be found, and because all xylocopuses in other nests are sitting smile.gif

I agree.

but you need to catch it
It's better to just put tags and dig up when she finishes her business, and then take a picture and catch it.

This post was edited by Carcharot - 03.08.2015 16: 48

04.08.2015 18:11, ИНО

Burrows that are very similar to those dug by xylenes, I meet regularly in the same places in autumn and early spring, but I have reliably recorded their builders-only twice. In summer, these burrows are not present, and bees do not wander in those places, but only around dry trunks, buildings and flowers. So the version with wintering looks very convincing (the literature is only against it, but, therefore, it is necessary to edit).

I do not see any fundamental difficulties in checking the fact of xylocop wintering in nests: find a living nest in the summer (making sure that the female provides it), come to it in the winter, cut it down. If there are bees there, then they spend the winter in the nests (at least sometimes), if it is empty, they spend the winter somewhere else (at least sometimes), or the sad option is that someone ate them all during the" fattening up", but this is less likely. But I personally pass here: not only do I not know how to cut (and there is nothing), I have never found a nest. True, I didn't look for it (like the swallowtail caterpillars). But for Hierophis, the task is just right. Correct the authors of the article in the CC with your discovery, isn't it tempting, Roma?

This post was edited by ENO-04.08.2015 18: 13

04.08.2015 18:22, Кархарот

not only do I not know how to cut (and there is nothing), I have never found a nest.

More than once We have attracted valga to the wide stalks of thick-walled reeds. But they weren't there in the winter. I agree with the verification scheme, but you need several sockets. Plus the excavation of the same holes in the ground.

04.08.2015 18:23, Hierophis

The simplest method is
"It's better to just put tags and dig up when she finishes her business, and then take a picture and catch it."
but the caveat is that such a hole still needs to be found in the fall wink.gif
This will already 100% prove the fact of xylocop wintering in burrows, it is generally unrealistic to exclude wintering in nests - how many nests need to be gutted so that the data is reliable ))

By the way, there is one more nuance here: it turns out that according to our laws, and even the RF laws, even official scientists are forbidden to conduct research on Red Book animals, you need to take a lot of permits from all sorts of ministries, and for a publication where the facts of killing or destroying nests are mentioned in one way or another, they can then be fined take it off. These are the cases smile.gif

04.08.2015 18:26, Кархарот

So you need to take a picture (without "catch") and bury it back. smile.gif

04.08.2015 18:26, Hierophis

More than once We have attracted valga to the wide stalks of thick-walled reeds. But they weren't there in the winter.

Would you spend the winter in such a nest?) This is no longer a pure experiment)

Although there are such xylocops - rainbow, they live by default in the stems of annual plants of all sorts, it would also be interesting to see who is there in winter)

04.08.2015 18:29, Кархарот

The article on your link mentions Xylocop violacea wintering in reed stalks. In addition, I have polistes dominula constantly wintering in them, sometimes as a whole "swarm", sometimes singly. The reeds do not hang out in the wind, they are all inside the "beehive", in principle, they hardly differ much from the log in thermal mode.

04.08.2015 18:40, Hierophis

Ah, now I understand, this is a hive for single bees, you need to make one for yourself on the balcony, maybe the survival rate of polists will increase..

And about "bury back" it sounds dark, you can also play the march=0

04.08.2015 19:08, ИНО

Oh, it's good that we have neither the laws of the Russian Federation nor the laws of Ukraine do not apply, but we don't have our own CC yet. So you can safely dig whatever you want, as long as the army patrol does not flood the Ukrainian sabotage. So if I see any burrows this year and don't see any warriors around, I'll dig them up.

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