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Common water beetle

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YANexus, 08.09.2015 14:24

I have no idea where on this forum to go with such things, so don't throw your slippers if the topic is in the wrong section.I think this site will help me.
In general, the bottom line is this: for a little more than a week, plavunets has been living in the bank.Lives quite normally,but the problem is a white formation on the back of the abdomen:
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What can it be?Illness / physical damage / molt?

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08.09.2015 15:46, Hierophis

Molt is definitely not possible, maybe a fungus, I often kept plavuntsov, I did not see anything like this... And if you dig around, take a closer look, what does it look like in general?

08.09.2015 16:43, YANexus

It looks like a white coating.If you pick at it, it looks like rubber.It's pretty solid and stuck fast.Maybe it really is a fungus.Of course, the beetle does not allow you to pick it and immediately breaks out.
Another question arose: how often do large swimmers eat?Previously, the aquarium was home to medium-sized striped beetles (1.5-2cm in size).But I let them go before my vacation.They ate well on boiled sausage.Now lives one(or rather one, fringed female), but he is in no hurry to touch her for 7 days from the moment of capture.I don't want to lose this beetle,because it's the only living swimmer left in the city fountain.The rest are either dead or frozen and half-dead(we are already cold in Siberia)

This post was edited by YANexus - 08.09.2015 16: 46

08.09.2015 16:50, Hierophis

Maybe it's something internal got out and it hurts if it breaks out? smile.gif
I also had swimmers in my aquarium, they eat mostly rotten remains, bloodworms, in principle, whose swimmers I caught in the fall, lived with me until spring. Here the sausage can be unnecessarily fed, the water spoils and in general, it is better not to eat sausage yourself)))

08.09.2015 16:55, Victor Titov

  
What can it be?Illness / physical damage / molt?

Write" in PM " botanque ( http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showuser=57589 ), invite them to the topic - I think they will be able to explain what it is.

08.09.2015 19:14, Igor1962

[quote=Hierophis,08.09.2015 13:50]

08.09.2015 19:15, Igor1962

The above-mentioned white coating and beyond.....

08.09.2015 21:44, botanque

Already discussed somewhere on the forum. That's where I found out.

"The male transfers his large and complex spermatophore to the female's copulatory sac; the spermatophore is so large that it protrudes out of this sac for a while; after the sac closes and conceals the spermatophore, a putty-like milky-white mass remains on the ventral surface of the eighth segment of the female's abdomen, representing the 'sign of female fertilization'."

Pavlovsky E. N., Lepneva S. G. 1948. Essays from the life of freshwater animals. Leningrad: Sovetskaya nauka. 458 с.

08.09.2015 22:00, Hierophis

Here osuda follows that there is never a need to hurry ) There is a chance that there will also be offspring, but it is still better not to give sausage..

08.09.2015 22:41, YANexus

Thank you all for your help.
About the offspring: this is unnecessary.Keeping the larvae of these beetles is a chore,and even more so in winter.
About nutrition: I will try to transfer the beetle to minced meat or bloodworm(if such is sold here).And then the beetle from the moment of capture refuses to take food.

This post was edited by YANexus - 08.09.2015 22: 41

08.09.2015 22:50, AGG

I don't understand what the problem is, any pet store or fishing sells bloodworms all year round (both live and frozen). I fed the mantis larva with ice cream moth all winter wink.gif

08.09.2015 23:37, Hierophis

Thank you all for your help.
About the offspring: this is unnecessary.Keeping the larvae of these beetles is a chore,and even more so in winter.
About nutrition: I will try to transfer the beetle to minced meat or bloodworm(if such is sold here).And then the beetle from the moment of capture refuses to take food.

He's probably going to spend the winter, they write that they spend the winter in the ground.
Larvae I grew from a cocoon only water lovers, it is easy to feed, but only one larva )) they eat aquarium coils, and in general different snails, and the beetles themselves eat exclusively plant rot and therefore, unlike the swimmer, they can live in an aquarium with fish and shrimp. At the same time, water lovers normally spend the winter in the water for as long as I know.

09.09.2015 0:21, Victor Titov

He's probably going to spend the winter, they write that they spend the winter in the ground.

Representatives of the genus Dytiscus (and in the picture it is he) overwinter in reservoirs and can even be active in winter.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 09.09.2015 00: 22

09.09.2015 20:23, Igor1962

I once kept dutiscus marg-s in an aquarium with guppies, I was convinced that the swimmers are safe for fish, their flair (mustache) is very good, but this is for raw meat , but the larvae are a threat to fish, I generally lived gladiators often fed frogs larger than beetles

09.09.2015 21:56, YANexus

Yesterday I pulled out of the same fountain another female with exactly the same bloom.In the aquarium,I did not pay attention to food,today in the evening I began to tear it off with an effort, after which I attacked the black beetles floating near the surface(a temporary alternative to food).Apparently, after the sexual process, the beetles stop eating.The first female does not do such things,does not touch food.

08.10.2017 21:06, vidjl

This is a fungus of the class of chytridiomycetes( Chytridiomycetes), they settle on aquatic insects that spend a long time in the water during wintering, or just for a long time without getting out of it, then the beetle partially cleans them off itself, some of them die when the beetle gets out of the water and dries out. The spermatophore looks very different.

29.10.2017 20:21, YANexus

Taki again decided to turn to the locals
I observe this picture now
The beetle was caught in the beginning of agusta, fed once every 5-6 days with bloodworms (previous experiments showed that if you feed more often, the beetles died from overfeeding)
A week ago, the elytra were covered with a fungus (information about which I have already found). The beetle successfully healed itself.
Since yesterday, the beetle has significantly weakened, lost the ability to stay in the water and was transferred to a separate empty reservoir, where it lies motionless periodically making similar" breathing " movements with its abdomen. Sometimes it "wakes up", moves a little and again gets in place
The actual question is-is this a pathology or an attempt to go into a state of "wintering" ?

This post was edited by YANexus - 29.10.2017 20: 24

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