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Melittia, 14.10.2015 0:16

Dear colleagues! We really need mol.gifinformation about residential colonies of the common hamster (Cricetus cricetus) from the regions of the former USSR to study umnik.gifthe insects that live in its burrows. You can use exact coordinates, or simple crocs. I would be very grateful beer.gif!

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29.10.2015 12:44, Troglodit

If there are any Leiodidae, it would be interesting to know which ones.

02.11.2015 20:30, stierlyz

Isn't it colonial?"?? I'll take a look, here's the first book I came across: Land animals of Russia, 2002:172 " Single, rather aggressive." I'd like to find a solitary hole here, and I'd love to dig it up myself in the spring... I've only ever seen a fresh body in the Odessa region, and that's it. Well, those who are engaged in substantive work-they observe, extract, not in the Odessa region, however.

14.11.2015 20:10, AGG

a little unclear about".. from the regions of the former USSR.. " modern borders of the Russian Federation are interesting?
Tambov region, 15 km NW from Tambov 52.839652 N 41.331105 E country village "Chistye Prudy". This year, there were a lot of complaints from citizens about hamsters. Despite the small distance from the city and development, it is one of the most" steppe " places in the region.
Personally caught hamsters (15-20 years ago) 52°9 ' 54 "N (52.165111) 42°15' 35 " E (42.259626) Tambov region Rzhaksinsky district my native and no longer residential village of Maryevka

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14.11.2015 21:48, Maksim M.

Probably it is worth considering the method of production of a hamster, at the same time, and all the inhabitants of the burrow thereof.You take a gas cylinder with a flexible hose-2 meters, push it as far as possible along the entire length and open the valve....After a couple of minutes, you clean up everything and use a torch to bring the fire to the entrance....There is an average gas explosion in the burrow-and all living things must leave it in a hurry-hamsters, beetles, frogs, etc....

14.11.2015 22:40, AGG

naivelol.gif, he will stand behind you and watch as you push something jump.gifthrough, and then he will also give you a lighter wink.gifafter that, bury you by the hand and go to the sleeve of the hole that your attempts did not affect. they are very "hardworking" and "vicious" bullies. I've caught a lot of them and I know what I'm talking umnik.gifabout

15.11.2015 10:22, Black Coleopter

There is a medium-sized gas explosion in the burrow-and all living things must leave it in a hurry-hamsters, beetles, frogs, etc....

Most likely, all living things will die in the explosion.

15.11.2015 10:48, Mantispid

Probably it is worth considering the method of production of a hamster, at the same time, and all the inhabitants of the burrow thereof.You take a gas cylinder with a flexible hose-2 meters, push it as far as possible along the entire length and open the valve....After a couple of minutes, you clean up everything and use a torch to bring the fire to the entrance....There is a medium-sized gas explosion in the burrow-and all living things must leave it in a hurry-hamsters, beetles, frogs, etc....

wildness of some kind mad.gif

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15.11.2015 11:50, Maksim M.

The method is not mine-I read it somewhere, as an instruction for dealing with unwanted rodents.But there were reviews of extreme means of dealing with them.Finally, I have never seen hamsters,they probably are not found in our area.I also read about the ingenuity of these animals-the animal is not simple.Personally, I like its appearance-cute, interesting. wink.gif

15.11.2015 11:52, Maksim M.

naivelol.gif, he will stand behind you and watch as you push something jump.gifthrough, and then he will also give you a lighter wink.gifafter that, bury you by the hand and go to the sleeve of the hole that your attempts did not affect. they are very "hardworking" and "vicious" bullies. I've caught a lot of them and I know what I'm talking about umnik.gif

Rom, and you caught them, answer-why, if it's not a secret-and??After all, they probably do not live in captivity...

15.11.2015 12:24, AGG

A fine morning in a remote village in the south of the Tambov region. my grandmother asks me to bring barley to the chickens. I go to the barn, remove the lock, but the door won't openwall.gif, and I lean my whole body against the door, and it slowly leans forward. What I see. a hole in the floor 15-20 cm in diameter, and around it a pile of earth 0.5 m high and 1-1. 5 m in diameter eek.gifand so it was more than once wink.gifnow it is clear why I caught them? wink.gif

15.11.2015 16:25, Maksim M.

These are the burrows where good beetles live!!!! smile.gif wink.gif

15.11.2015 19:27, Sergey Pushkin

Surchinye dismantled. Moles were digging. I studied Lisya. There are no hamsters, it would be interesting to look at katopids, holovids and karapuzikov with kozheedami or find out the species composition for yourself smile.gif umnik.gif

15.11.2015 20:23, Mantispid

Surchinye dismantled. Moles were digging. I studied Lisya. There are no hamsters, it would be interesting to look at katopids, holovids and karapuzikov with kozheedami or find out the species composition for yourself smile.gif  umnik.gif

and how to dig moles? I understand that there is no point in sifting the "hill" itself, it is necessary to dig the hole itself?

15.11.2015 21:16, Sergey Pushkin

Yes, because of the katopids for Ruzichki from the Czech Republic, I had to tinker. Dug up more than one hectare. I filled my hand. It is necessary to find not just molehills, but those that, if excavated carefully, have a vertical course. So to speak, ventilation of the burrow. In this place we are looking for a hole. There will be a "nest" in it, if not residential, then the tray will still bring a positive resultat even in winter. some nidicoles-beetles are active even in winter because temp. positive or you can remove the larvae and bring them out in lab conditions. If something else write.
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15.11.2015 23:40, ИНО

Just keep in mind that moles live in forests, moles in open areas are left by mole rats. The arrangement of moves is fundamentally different.

16.11.2015 1:32, Victor Titov

Just keep in mind that moles live in forests, moles in open areas are left by mole rats. The arrangement of moves is fundamentally different.

Why is it only in forests? Moles also feel great in open areas: in meadows (especially in floodplains), in fields, and even in vegetable wink.gifgardens there is nothing to say.

16.11.2015 3:17, Guest

Dear colleagues! We really need mol.gifinformation about residential colonies of the common hamster (Cricetus cricetus) from the regions of the former USSR to study umnik.gifthe insects that live in its burrows. You can use exact coordinates, or simple crocs. I would be very grateful beer.gif!
The Lord's ways are inscrutable...

16.11.2015 6:39, ИНО

And who said that only? Not only that, but mostly. In general, you have mostly unnatural open terrain, so there are moles left from the old forest times, they have adapted. Gardeners in 99% of cases call moles mole rats, which, unlike real moles, are very harmful by eating root vegetables. They are also fought with all sorts of poisons such as "antikrot", dug-in bottles, turntables and a lot of other ways. I've never seen krotovin in the meadows, but I believe it happens in the forest zone. But the typical mole biotope is a broad-leaved forest. It is there that you can find massively mole moles (sorry for the tautology), which are very different from mole rats.

16.11.2015 8:12, Dmitry Vlasov

And who said that only? Not only that, but mostly. In general, you have mostly unnatural open terrain, so there are moles left from the old forest times, they have adapted. Gardeners in 99% of cases call moles mole rats, which, unlike real moles, are very harmful by eating root vegetables. They are also fought with all sorts of poisons such as "antikrot", dug-in bottles, turntables and a lot of other ways. I've never seen krotovin in the meadows, but I believe it happens in the forest zone. But the typical mole biotope is a broad-leaved forest. It is there that you can find massively mole moles (sorry for the tautology), which are very different from mole rats.

Mole rats live in the forest-steppe zone and further south, and we have the border of the southern taiga with coniferous-deciduous forests... And we have moles everywhere, including lawns on the outskirts of city

16.11.2015 8:40, Mantispid

I don't agree with Comrade ENO. I live in the steppe zone and we have a LOT of moles, even where there is not a single tree! Although, I agree that they tend to gravitate to rivers and lakes. I've NEVER met a mole rat.

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16.11.2015 10:37, Bad Den

I don't agree with Comrade ENO. I live in the steppe zone and we have a LOT of moles, even where there is not a single tree! Although, I agree that they tend to gravitate to rivers and lakes. I've NEVER met a mole rat.

In the village of Sinenkie (at Igor Kryukov's dacha), we once caught.

16.11.2015 11:36, Mantispid

In the village of Sinenkie (at Igor Kryukov's dacha), we once caught.

maybe I just didn't look wink.giffor them

16.11.2015 13:12, Victor Titov

INO

16.11.2015 15:05, СамПавел

Slepysh (and more than one) met in 2011 in Dobropillya, Donetsk region. In a young apple orchard, and a couple of them came to the garden on foot on the ground. Here is one of them

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16.11.2015 15:09, СамПавел

I forgot to add it. There is also (and still is) a colony of baibaks near a field of vegetables. No one knows where they came from. You can't find any other places in the area

16.11.2015 18:44, stierlyz

We started with hamsters, got to baibaks through mole rats and moles. The hamsters are very tight these days, very tight indeed...
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17.11.2015 3:08, ИНО

  INO
This is not the case in our area: most moles are found in floodplain meadows. As I understood from the post of the respected Mantispid,and for the steppe zone, your statement is not entirely true, to put it mildly.

What's your streak? I was recently in the Nizhny Novgorod region and saw many traces of mole life in a moist deciduous forest. In our region (in the floodplain of the Seversky Donets), they live in the most similar stations. I didn't see any molehills in the floodplain meadows (here). However, I haven't been to your places on the floodplain meadow, so I can't say anything here. But yes, pedivikia indicates that floodplain meadows immediately after forests are among the preferred biotopes of the European mole. Apparently, it's only our meadows that moles don't like for some reason

17.11.2015 9:15, Victor Titov

What's your streak?

Isn't it clear from the caption under my nickname? wink.gif

Of course, the figure of 99% was taken by me from the ceiling for a red word, I thought it would be obvious to everyone.

It's not about that-you just extended this red word to the entire range of the European mole without reservations, not taking into account that in most of it it does not intersect with the range of the mole rat - that's exactly what I meant. Our summer residents and gardeners have very characteristic traces of the mole's vital activity simply not to be confused with. Therefore, when they talk about the presence of a mole in their areas, in 100% of cases, the mole is in question.
But in terms of harm to vegetable gardens, these two animals are still not comparable. If the mole can only accidentally dig up the roots...

"Accidentally" means that it does not eat roots, but only damages them when digging its burrows. But taking into account the high number, food mainly by earthworms and even "accidental" (in the above sense), but significant damage to the root system of garden crops, the harm of the mole in vegetable gardens in our area is very noticeable. And it makes sense to compare its harmfulness with that of a mole rat only where the ranges of both animals intersect. So, our dispute is about nothing but the advantages of sweet potatoes over potatoes in isolation from the farming zone.

So in terms of fighting the mole rat, gardeners are much more motivated than with the mole.
Again, you forget to specify at least: where the number of both mole rats and moles is equally high, or the number of the former exceeds that of the latter.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 17.11.2015 09: 23

17.11.2015 10:37, Troglodit

Surchinye dismantled. Moles were digging. I studied Lisya. There are no hamsters, it would be interesting to look at katopids, holovids and karapuzikov with kozheedami or find out the species composition for yourself smile.gif  umnik.gif

Please tell us more about the groundhog burrow excavation. How to dig what came across from holevin? I want to dig in the spring, only the size of the burrows is confusing, they are very large.

17.11.2015 14:15, Dantist

We started with hamsters, got to baibaks through mole rats and moles. The hamsters are very tight these days, very tight indeed...

About hamsters. In the late 90's, I met Cricetus cricetus in chernozem fields in Chernihiv region, Bobrovitsky district. I remember being surprised by the hamster's large size.

This post was edited by Dantist - 17.11.2015 19: 47

17.11.2015 16:27, ИНО

17.11.2015 17:19, Victor Titov

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