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19.07.2006 13:27, -Роман-

here is another riddle
in the common people "zelenka", lives under the stones weaving quite large pebbles m / zhdu themselves and attaching this household to a larger stone. The net is quite strong, you need to make an effort to break the stones between them..

Arctopsyche
ladogensis ?



or

user posted image
user posted image

I'm not an expert in entomology, but please help me find books (or links)
on freshwater benthos in Siberia. I will be very grateful

19.07.2006 20:10, Sparrow

Well caddisfly that's for sure ;D

20.07.2006 21:14, BO.

Mantises appeared. There are very few of them this year.
I want to keep it at home . Help me determine up to the view.
P1070782-large praying mantis 5-6 cm I assume that this is a male Rivetina (Rivetina nana), caught in the steppe on the border with Kazakhstan.
P1070786-miniature praying mantis 2-2. 5 cm lives with me for a week, very capricious in nutrition. It eats small butterflies and small flies. Caught in a cherry plum orchard.
I would like to pick up pairs . Last year's experience with common praying mantises can be viewed at http://photo.bov.com.ru/m_nas/bog/Mantis_religiosa.php
Astrakhan region. Pictures taken today smile.gif

Pictures:
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picture: P1070786.jpg
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23.07.2006 0:51, Dracus

BO

Great specimens! The first one seems to be really Rivetina, judging by the pictures on the network. But who is the second, I can't imagine. Try to identify it using the wonderful "Definitive Table of Mantises of Europe" by the respected kotbegemot:

Definitive Table of Mantises in Europe

2 all

Is it possible to determine the types of pigeons from the scans of the underparts?

The first two were caught in Ramenskoye yesterday afternoon, and the next three species flew en masse in the vicinity of Marmaris, Turkey, in June.
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23.07.2006 14:03, Tigran Oganesov

It is very interesting if rivetina: I have never seen any references to her for Russia before. And the other is a nymph. I had a nymph named Mantis religiosa-very similar!

The first is really Rivetina, they are just found in the Astrakhan region.
The second is most likely religious.
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24.07.2006 0:20, BO.

The first one is really Rivetina, they are found in the Arstakhan region.
The second is most likely religious.

As for Mantis religiosa , I disagree. First, there are no black dots.
Secondly, Mantis religiosa is currently at least twice as large. I shot it last week. Do I have that dwarf instance?  The more dark they start after the second molt, after the fourth one they have a clear color.

24.07.2006 17:24, vespabellicosus

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I would very much like to know the opinion of the participants about this two-wing. Very similar to the hornet V. crabro. Body length is about 20 mm.

24.07.2006 19:52, Sparrow

Spilomyia Diophtalma or another species of the genus, in the same topic just above

http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...ndpost&p=361849

24.07.2006 20:43, BO.

Please identify the dragonfly. ~5-6 cm. Veteran judging by the wings.

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25.07.2006 9:15, vespabellicosus

As for dragonflies - the family Libellulidae. Most likely, it belongs to the genus Libellula or Orthetrum.
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25.07.2006 15:01, Vlad Proklov

Please identify the dragonfly. ~5-6 cm. Veteran judging by the wings.

Old female Orthetrum albistylum.

25.07.2006 17:45, sealor

Accidentally noticed an unusual spider. Body size approx. 5mm, net type tenet-shaped. Who's that?"

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25.07.2006 17:50, Dracus

BO

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25.07.2006 18:54, guest: a

ssp.jpg
That's who it is:
http://spiders.ru/spiders/index.php?p=164
The Enoplognatha ovata spider is quite common in the Moscow Region

25.07.2006 20:15, sealor

Thanks! I met this spider here for the first time, and since I assumed that it was a tenet cat, I became interested. According to the descriptions that I found, this species is widely distributed in our country, but it is more numerous in a wetter climate than our southern one.

26.07.2006 17:02, Tigran Oganesov


Then most likely Iris polystistica. It is about 1.5-2 times smaller in size than the cow, but in the larval stage it is very similar in appearance.

I agree, if there are no spots and there is less dew, then iris.

27.07.2006 12:34, BO.

bug 1.5 cm .Astrakhan region. Help me determine it.

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06.08.2006 23:57, BO.

Help identify the praying mantis. Size 3.5-4 cm. Judging by the whiskers and wings, it's a male.
There are no black spots. Astrakhan region.

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07.08.2006 0:02, Vlad Proklov

Help identify the praying mantis. Size 3.5-4 cm. Judging by the whiskers and wings, it's a male.
There are no black spots. Astrakhan region.

Iris polystictica, apparently.
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08.08.2006 0:21, BO.

  Iris polystictica, apparently.

Very strange, the gray mantis was also identified as Iris polystistica. ( on page 13)
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=42936&st=600#

Iris polystistica-has different color forms ? These two praying mantises are very different . The green male is larger than the gray one. Gray faded, no wings, suppose it's a female, why is it smaller than the male ?

The post was edited by BO. - 08.08.2006 00:24

08.08.2006 0:38, Vlad Proklov

Very strange, the gray mantis was also identified as Iris polystistica. ( on page 13)
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=42936&st=600#

Iris polystistica-has different color forms ? These two praying mantises are very different . The green male is larger than the gray one. Gray faded, no wings, suppose it's a female, why is it smaller than the male ?


Yes, they are both green and brown. Grey-something there Rivetina smile.gif
If it's faded and there are no wings , then it probably hasn't matured yet? Because the rudiments there are large, clearly a winged beast. And then it is clear why it is smaller.

08.08.2006 9:44, BO.

Yes, they are both green and brown. Grey-something there Rivetina smile.gif
If it's faded and there are no wings , then it probably hasn't matured yet? Because the rudiments there are large, clearly a winged beast. And then it is clear why it is smaller.

This is a photo of P1070786 , not P1070782.jpg -where Rivetina is actually shown. It is doubtful that single-species individuals can differ in age and appearance so much. There are about 10 different types of irises. Can't find a place to watch it? It doesn't look like the image in the caller ID at all.

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08.08.2006 14:33, Dracus

Irises are indeed about 10 (even more) species, but only polystictica lives in Russia... or have you discovered a new species for science smile.gif
The picture you gave is crooked, besides, there is a female drawn there, and you have a male.
About the difference between the previous larva and this male. I have not yet observed mottled praying mantises (like almost all Russian praying mantises, unfortunately), but Iris oratoria has two forms - a small one (3 - 4.5 cm) and a large one (from 6 to 7.5 cm). The further south the territory is, the greater the concentration of large forms. The boundaries between them are quite clear. So it's likely that you have two different forms.
However, that larva still has to become an adult to be able to speak with confidence about the differences. And the most important test feature, if you are not sure that the male is Iris polysctictica, is the famous mottled hind wings with a large black-purple spot in the middle and concentric strokes around it. In the female, they are the same, only shortened.

This post was edited by Dracus-08.08.2006 14: 37
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09.08.2006 0:02, BO.

The picture you gave is crooked, besides, there is a female drawn there, and you have a male.

Iris oratoria has two forms - small (3-4.5 cm) and large (from 6 to 7.5 cm). The further south the territory is, the greater the concentration of large forms. The boundaries between them are quite clear. So it's likely that you have two different forms.
And the most important test feature, if you are not sure that the male is Iris polysctictica, is the famous mottled hind wings with a large black-purple spot in the middle and concentric strokes around it. In the female, they are the same, only shortened.

I have both of these praying mantises in stock. About the territory, caught in the same place +- 1 square meter at intervals of a couple of weeks. The green one is more or less clear, although I couldn't really see the wings. I'm afraid to crush it. Mantis instead of fighting stoics pretends to be dead. I'll take a look at the wings sooner or later.
But the second one, see the photo, doesn't fit the description very well. Another question is if this is one species, but different forms will they mate with each other. The size is confusing, not the color.

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09.08.2006 0:43, Dracus

I still think it's a mottled worshipper. It also resembles the shape of the pronotum. Of course, there is an alternative, although it is very unlikely - it may be a tropical species that escaped from the terrarium and somehow miraculously reached the place of capture. If the wings are colorless after the final molt , then so it is, and this will be a rare, if not unique, case.
As for mating, I wouldn't worry if the little one turns out to be a worshipper. These are not different types or subspecies, but only forms.

09.08.2006 17:13, guest: Doof

2 kotbegemot:

Can you tell me about the unknown fly? The size is 5 millimeters.

http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha1.jpg

09.08.2006 19:40, Vlad Proklov

2 kotbegemot:

Can you tell me about the unknown fly? The size is 5 millimeters.

http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha1.jpg


That's where I pass...

09.08.2006 21:34, guest: Doof

Sorry...

10.08.2006 12:58, BO.

Of course, there is an alternative, although it is very unlikely - it may be a tropical species that escaped from the terrarium and somehow miraculously reached the place of capture. If the wings are colorless after the final molt , then so it is, and this will be a rare, if not unique, case.

Thanks! No, this is not unique, I saw the same ones last year.

10.08.2006 13:41, Proctos

Sorry...

This fly is from the Tachinidae family

10.08.2006 17:11, guest: Doof

This fly is from the Tachinidae family wink.gif


Thanks for that, too. More precisely, no way? smile.gif

16.08.2006 21:25, BO.

Two dragonflies are very similar, one has very dark veins on its wings. Help me determine it. Astrakhan region.

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17.08.2006 6:05, vespabellicosus

Both dragonflies belong to the genus Sympetrum of the true dragonfly family Libellulidae. As for the upper one, I find it difficult to determine , the lower one, apparently, is an ordinary dragonfly Sympetrum vulgatum.

17.08.2006 21:39, BO.

Both dragonflies belong to the genus Sympetrum of the true dragonfly family Libellulidae. As for the upper one , I find it difficult to determine , the lower one , apparently, is an ordinary dragonfly Sympetrum vulgatum.

Thanks! Indeed, ympetrum vulgatum is very common, when shooting there were three dragonflies together , one of them stood out with dark wings, I assumed that this was a sexual difference.

18.08.2006 6:14, vespabellicosus

BO The upper dragonfly with dark wings is a separate, apparently some southern species. In s.vulgatum, the sexual difference is manifested in coloration: in the picture you have a female, while the male has a reddish belly. Unlike other red-bellied Sympetrum species, it is not so intensely colored.
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18.08.2006 6:21, Vlad Proklov

BO The upper dragonfly with dark wings is a separate, apparently some southern species. In s.vulgatum, the sexual difference is manifested in coloration: in the picture you have a female, while the male has a reddish belly. Unlike other red-bellied Sympetrum species, it is not so intensely colored.


And not just a southern species, but, perhaps, an element of the Central Asian fauna: in books on Europe, I somehow did not meet anything like it. This dragonfly put me right in a dead end...
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21.08.2006 17:39, Alexander Zarodov

Now Diptera. At least to the family smile.gif

http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha21.jpg
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha31.jpg "very small!
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha41.jpg
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha51.jpg - small

Thank you in advance! All taken in the Moscow Region

21.08.2006 22:03, Proctos

Now Diptera. At least to the family smile.gif

http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha21.jpg
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha31.jpg "very small!
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha41.jpg
http://nature.doublea.ru/pix/muha51.jpg - small

Thank you in advance! All shot in the Moscow region

I advise you to display photos of flies on the website www. diptera.info
There, people have already filled their eyes on the definition of the photo (the site is English-language, but you can just put a photo and write help!)

21.08.2006 22:55, Alexander Zarodov

I advise you to display photos of flies on the website www. diptera.info
There, people have already filled their eyes on the definition of the photo (the site is English-language, but you can just put a photo and write help!)


Thank you, I did so smile.gif

24.08.2006 0:27, guest: Ольга

Hello, insect experts! Help identify the spider. I am almost sure that this is a krestovik, but in my opinion, it is NOT an ordinary krestovik (Araneus diadematus) - I found this name and description on the Internet. Middle lane, Irkutsk region. There must be some simple spider.
His photo is here:
http://foto.mail.ru/mail/krol75/64/65.html
(I don't know how to insert it here as a picture)
If you need a clearer back - I can post it.
Thank you all!!!

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