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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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25.04.2016 0:10, Oleg Nikolsky

April 24, the outskirts of Bryansk, on the bark of oaks. Help me determine it.

4708, 4724 Ectropis crepuscularia OR Paradarisa consonaria ??
4747 ? length ~10 mm
4779 Diurnea fagella? length ~20mm

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25.04.2016 8:15, svm2

2 first Ectropis crepuscularia

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25.04.2016 21:25, Пензуит

Please tell me, are there all four polychrome Nymphalis xanthomelas or are there also polychloros ? 24.04.16, Penza region.

1. The first one (3 photos)

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2. The second (2 photos)

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3. The third (2 photos)

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4. The fourth (3 photos)

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25.04.2016 21:37, Kharkovbut

Please tell me, here are all four polychromatic Nymphalis xanthomelas
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26.04.2016 0:54, Evgeny Kotelevsky

Another unknown dustpan flew into the world today. Saratov, Molochka.

Dear experts, please help us identify the scoop!

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26.04.2016 6:57, svm2

Cerastis leucographa
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26.04.2016 21:13, Woodmen

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region. (#7 region). April.

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26.04.2016 21:22, Ilia Ustiantcev

Semioscopis steinkelleriana in the first photo and probably avellanella in the second.
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26.04.2016 22:18, Anton Kozyrev

Amata nigricornis?
Saratov region, Luga, June 2015.

26.04.2016 23:43, coriander-lithurgus

Good evening! Please tell me the specific names of scoops. What is it: Rh. simulans or Rh. arenacea?

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27.04.2016 7:13, Alexandr Zhakov

Good evening! Please tell me the specific names of scoops. What is it: Rh. simulans or Rh. arenacea?

Externally, the species do not differ. Rhyacia arenacea is a mountain species. Because it is very difficult to find a specific fishing point from your geographical label. Then I will assume that this is a flat part and therefore, then it is Rhyacia simulans. Genital preparations differ well. especially in females.
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27.04.2016 11:46, Andrey Ponomarev

Semioscopis steinkelleriana in the first photo and probably avellanella in the second.

Not probably, but it is. smile.gif
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27.04.2016 13:37, evk

Shooting on April 24 in bumpy sands with juzgun. Dosang, Astrakhan region. At least until Rod smile.gif

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27.04.2016 14:52, Alexandr Zhakov

Shooting on April 24 in bumpy sands with juzgun. Dosang, Astrakhan region. At least until Rod smile.gif


1-3 Coleophora probably Casignetella
4,6 Pyralidae Phycitinae, 5 maybe too.

27.04.2016 15:30, ButterflyGirl

Is it Nymphalis polychloros? By what signs can you quickly distinguish from Nymphalis xanthomelas from the upper angle?

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27.04.2016 15:47, Alexandr Zhakov

Is it Nymphalis polychloros? By what signs can you quickly distinguish from Nymphalis xanthomelas from the upper angle?

Yes. The simplest and most reliable sign: on the lower wings between the outer darkening and the inner red field, there are yellow triangles in polychloros and not in xanthomelas.
For more information, click here:http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Nymphalis_Polychloros
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27.04.2016 16:02, ButterflyGirl

What kind of mother-of-pearl? Dia or not? Geographical location of shooting-Zaporozhye
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27.04.2016 16:05, Alexandr Zhakov

What kind of mother-of-pearl? Dia or not?

Yes, Clossiana dia.
Please indicate the date and geographical location of the photo when posting it. This will significantly increase the chances of correct detection.
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27.04.2016 19:01, Ilia Ustiantcev

1-3 Coleophora probably Casignetella
4,6 Pyralidae Phycitinae, 5 maybe too.


4-by any chance the genus Talis from Crambidae or a relative? And 5 and 6 can be Epischnia or something like that, there are many types of them in the steppes.

27.04.2016 19:55, c clegg

Is it Nymphalis polychloros? By what signs can you quickly distinguish from Nymphalis xanthomelas from the upper angle?

http://babochki-kavkaza.ru/index.php/nymph...olychloros.html
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27.04.2016 21:15, coriander-lithurgus

Externally, the species do not differ. Rhyacia arenacea is a mountain species. Because it is very difficult to find a specific fishing point from your geographical label. Then I will assume that this is a flat part and therefore, then it is Rhyacia simulans. Genital preparations differ well. especially in females.

Thank you for your comment. The fishing point of the scoops shown in the photo is located in the flat (more precisely, low - lying) semi-desert part of the Stavropol Territory, more specifically-in the zone of Prikum sands. But the problem is that both species of Rhyacia are marked here (A.V. Sviridov, who reviewed earlier collections of my collection, also A. N. Poltavsky in the Annotated catalog sovok Sev. Caucasus, 2010), though with multiple quantitative superiority Rh.
simulans. Ex... I'll have to cook my genitals, too. I was still hoping that someone would tell me some external morphological differences between these scoops. One more request: you can reset drawings or photos of the genitals of these species (males and females).
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27.04.2016 21:39, Sve4ka

Good evening! I have questions about the bears. Please help me!
I assume that the 1st one is Spilosoma lubricipeda (May 20, 2014, Grozny). 2 and 3-Diaphora mendica? 4-я Phragmatobia? Which one? The last three butterflies are also from Grozny, these days.

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27.04.2016 23:35, svm2

1-Hyphantria cunea
P.fuliginosa
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28.04.2016 0:14, coriander-lithurgus

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28.04.2016 9:35, Alexandr Zhakov

4-by any chance the genus Talis from Crambidae or a relative? And 5 and 6 can be Epischnia or something like that, there are many types of them in the steppes.

Talis cannot be, it is a late summer-autumn genus. and relatives too smile.gif
One photo is not the best angle, it is difficult to say anything intelligibly, all just assumptions.

28.04.2016 11:33, Alexandr Zhakov

  
Eh... I'll have to cook my genitals, too. I was still hoping that someone would tell me some external morphological differences between these scoops. One more request: you can reset drawings or photos of the genitals of these species (males and females).

They say that there are specialists who distinguish them by their appearance. Klyuchko 2001 Rhyacia arenacea is given for the whole of Ukraine, including according to my fees, when cooking everything that is, it turned out to be Rh. simulans. Errors may be related to incorrect definition (interpretation) of male drugs. Reliable arenacea (as far as I know), in Ukraine is known only from the Crimea (Carpathians?), also probably for the Ciscaucasia, it is possible, but no one has seen it. Maybe I'm wrong, of course.
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28.04.2016 12:51, Василий пенза

Please tell me the top scoop, thank you.

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28.04.2016 13:19, TEMPUS

Please tell me the top scoop, thank you.

Polyploca ridens
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28.04.2016 13:37, Sve4ka

1-Hyphantria cunea
P.fuliginosa


In P. fuliginosa, the lower wings are reddish in color. And this one has yellow ones. With black spots on the bottom edge. Is this possible?

28.04.2016 14:17, svm2

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28.04.2016 15:17, Alexandr Zhakov

In P. fuliginosa, the lower wings are reddish in color. And this one has yellow ones. With black spots on the bottom edge. Is this possible?

http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1009636
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28.04.2016 16:36, coriander-lithurgus

They say that there are specialists who distinguish them by their appearance. Klyuchko 2001 Rhyacia arenacea is given for the whole of Ukraine, including according to my fees, when cooking everything that is, it turned out to be Rh. simulans. Errors may be related to incorrect definition (interpretation) of male drugs. Reliable arenacea (as far as I know), in Ukraine is known only from the Crimea (Carpathians?), also probably for the Ciscaucasia, it is possible, but no one has seen it. Maybe I'm wrong, of course.
Drawings from Noctuidae Europaeae Vol. 3_Noctuinae_3
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Thank you for the drawings and explanations.
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28.04.2016 19:10, Woodmen

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region. (#7 region). April.

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28.04.2016 19:30, Andrey Bezborodkin

Surroundings of Kirovo-Chepetsk, Kirov region. (#7 region). April.

Trichopteryx polycommata
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29.04.2016 0:37, Пензуит

The simplest and most reliable sign: on the lower wings between the outer darkening and the inner red field, there are yellow triangles in polychloros and not in xanthomelas.


Is it Nymphalis Polychloros ? Penza region, 10.05.2014

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29.04.2016 7:18, Alexandr Zhakov

Is it Nymphalis Polychloros ? Penza region, 10.05.2014

Yes. There are yellow triangles smile.gif
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29.04.2016 9:01, AGG

and the yellow brackets on the rear fenders are
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29.04.2016 9:16, Alexandr Zhakov

and there are yellow brackets on the rear fenders

We're probably talking about the same thing. smile.gif

29.04.2016 13:49, AGG

We're probably talking about the same thing. smile.gif

looks like yes smile.gif

29.04.2016 14:32, ButterflyGirl

Yes. The simplest and most reliable sign: on the lower wings between the outer darkening and the inner red field, there are yellow triangles in polychloros and not in xanthomelas.
For more information, click here:http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Nymphalis_Polychloros


For a clear example:

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