Definition of ground beetles of the genus Carabus

18.02.2007 14:06, Bad Den

Tell me, please, what kind of beetles:
1. Cerambycidae-Krasnodar Krai, Lazorevskoe settlement, 14.09.2003


2. Carabus sp. 1 - Krasnodar Territory, Lazorevskoe settlement, 13.09.2003



3. Carabus sp2 - Krasnodar Territory, Lazorevskoe settlement, 14.09.2003



4. Carabus sp2 (?) - Krasnodar Territory, Lazorevskoe settlement, 14.09.2003



5. Carabus (Tribax ?) sp. - Rep. Adygea, khr. Azishtau, 1200 m, 15.07.1997

18.02.2007 14:52, RippeR

18.02.2007 15:41, omar

18.02.2007 17:39, rpanin

18.02.2007 18:55, omar

Vo, I give the Moscow region...

18.02.2007 20:35, Bad Den

18.02.2007 21:42, Aleksandr Safronov

2 Bad Den
Carabus sp. 1-Carabus (Microplectes) convallium Starck, 1889
Carabus sp2-similar to Carabus (Eucarabus) cumanus Fisch., 1823
Carabus (Tribax?) sp. - it looks like Tribax, I can't figure out the view yet.

18.02.2007 22:54, Bad Den

18.02.2007 23:13, Aleksandr Safronov

2 Bad Den
A little bit from different sources, but there is no universal atlas on carabuses.
I've seen a few things in the collections. There are practically no global determinants for the Caucasian Carabus species at all. By the way there is a good website for Carabus:
www.carabus.eu

18.02.2007 23:31, omar

And that book, "the genus Karabus in the world" does not give information on the Karabus of the Caucasus? It's just that such a big name should oblige you to do something...

18.02.2007 23:43, rpanin

19.02.2007 9:49, KDG

19.02.2007 10:16, Aleksandr Safronov

And that book, "the genus Karabus in the world" does not give information on the Karabus of the Caucasus? It's just that such a big name should oblige you to do something...

This atlas is good for determining the Aedeagus, if you have the appropriate experience. Places of gathering of species (subspecies) are indicated. As I have already mentioned, the illustrations show the typical types of subgenera.
There is one global atlas for the Carabus of the world: Imura & Mizusawa "The Carabus of the World" 1996. Atlas with a large number of color tables of copies. Many good works on European views. I don't know any such literature in the Caucasus.

19.02.2007 10:22, Aleksandr Safronov

www.carabus.eu -the site may be quite good for the future, but it is still "damp".

I agree, but there are few sites where you can download PDF with descriptions of taxa, areas and color photos.

19.02.2007 10:36, omar

Oh, thank you. It was my dream to use this book to solve my old problem with Caucasians.

19.02.2007 11:40, Bad Den

19.02.2007 11:42, KDG

Oh, thank you. It was my dream to use this book to solve my old problem with Caucasians.

I recommend solving old problems with ground beetles by going to the Moscow State Pedagogical University, room 101. There is a whole crowd of ground beetles sitting there.

19.02.2007 11:43, KDG

19.02.2007 11:49, omar

Thank you very much, KDG, for your practical and accurate advice!

19.02.2007 12:40, KDG

Thank you very much, KDG, for your practical and accurate advice!

so tell them - KDG sent it. They will understand

19.02.2007 13:21, omar

Thank you again, Denis!

19.02.2007 15:31, Bad Den

20.02.2007 11:42, Nilson

20.02.2007 12:29, omar

In general, it would be interesting to see a good photo of precisely defined Caucasians with cute little comments, as rpanin did.

This post was edited by omar - 02/20/2007 12: 30

20.02.2007 14:07, rpanin

In general, it would be interesting to see a good photo of precisely defined Caucasians with cute little comments, as rpanin did.

Tobysh ,you suggest posting scans (photos) not only to identify, but also to familiarize "Caucasians" . I'm all for it !

With the world on a thread, and then look, we will create our own alternative atlas. After all, it's no secret that not everything is available on the Internet, especially at the subspecies level. I would like to know more!

This post was edited by rpanin - 02/20/2007 18: 05

20.02.2007 17:51, Bad Den

I agree with all the positions. If you are interested, I can post photos of my M. convallium and E. cumanus. I haven't figured out Tribax yet, but not circassicus.

Yes, I'm interested
What is not circassicus-100%, I have circassicus and it has a completely different sculpture of elytra.

21.02.2007 0:18, Aleksandr Safronov

Caucasians:
1. Archiplectes reitteri Retow., 1885 (Zamotailov A. S. det.)
( NW Kavkaz, Adygea, Fisht-Oshten massif, per. Maikopsky district)
July 2006
2. Archiplectes starcki Heyd., 1885 (Zamotailov A. S. det.) - ibid. Variable in color appearance. The types are quite common.

This post was edited by Entalex - 01.03.2007 11: 13

Pictures:

Archiplectes_reitteri.jpg — (109.97к)


Archiplectes_starcki.jpg — (124.41к)

28.02.2007 12:50, amara

28.02.2007 19:28, andr_mih

02.03.2007 20:06, Nilson

As I promised once, I post a couple of photos of karabuses. Related to Bad Dena...
1. Microplectes argonautarum reischitzi Mandl, 1955-1-4. IV. 2001, Abkhazia, Gudauta, Akhiban
2. Microplectes convallium Starck, 1889-29. VII. 2000, Krasnodar Region, Absheron district, h=1300 m
3. Tribax circassicus teberdensis Zolot., 1913-25. VI. 1997, Kara-Cherkessia, Arkasara cr.

This post was edited by Nilson - 05/28/2007 23: 22

Pictures:

Microplectes_argonautarum_reischitzi_m_dors.JPG — (128.34к)


Tribax_circassicu_teberdensis_fem_dors.JPG — (111.12к)


Microplectes_convallium_fem_dors.JPG — (126.32к)

03.03.2007 1:37, Bad Den

03.03.2007 12:04, Nilson

Nilson, thank you!
What is the difference between Microplectes argonautarum and Microplectes convallium? At first glance, only the back edge of the prsp. differs...

I would readily answer, but, honestly, I don't know, I don't have a clue about these beetles, and they got to me for a long time. This is not very noticeable in the pictures, but in daylight convallium is greener, with almost no reddish tint.

This post was edited by Nilson-03.03.2007 12: 09

04.03.2007 21:03, Bad Den

2 more minibuses:
Carabus (Tribax) sp.? - ocd. Kislovodsk, Narzanov Valley, 24.07.2004. 28 mm.



Carabus (Megodontus) exaratus ? - CBD, ocd. Nalchik, July-August 2006. 25-30 mm


This post was edited by Bad Den - 07.04.2018 19: 18

04.03.2007 23:20, KDG

04.03.2007 23:22, KDG

05.03.2007 2:26, RippeR

is that better?

Pictures:

cara1.jpg — (71.22к)


cara2.jpg — (160.74 k)

05.03.2007 2:50, omar

Carabus exaratus by 98%. That's where it's common.

05.03.2007 13:37, Bad Den

is that better?

A shaman, however!

05.03.2007 14:16, Cerambyx

Exactly Carabus exaratus, and also (most likely) not recognized by Makarov northern subspecies.
And here's a joke:
- this beetle is caught in the Chelyabinsk and Tyumen regions. Even Kryzhanovsky still talked about some morphological differences. And they are still calving with a description of a new species!

This post was edited by Cerambyx-03/05/2007 14: 27

05.03.2007 20:39, Aleksandr Safronov

2 Bad Den
Cara2-Carabus (Megodontus) exaratus Quensel, 1806-definitely! Color form with green borders. Typical - with purple ones. There are dark specimens with a barely noticeable purple (blue) border of the elytra and a faint bluish tint of the pronotum (melanistic form?). Another interesting question is that there are no subspecies listed in the entire range, although this is rather strange, since there are really isolated populations, as Cerambyx accurately noted!?