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Mikhail F. Bagaturov, 21.02.2007 19:26

Hello everyone
Here is a beetle of the genus Geotrupes.
The story is as follows.
During the Soviet era, this geotrup was driven in large quantities "to the west" from Talysh (where it is not uncommon) like G. caspius (which, by the way, it doesn't look like, but nevertheless).
After some time, comrades "there" calculated this case and described it as a type of Geotrupes fausti.
Due to the lapse in time, I can't check at the moment whether it's G. fausti or something else right now.
And if not, what, and what is Geotrupes caucasicus now and where does it live?
Thank you in advance.

Pictures:
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Comments

03.03.2007 14:15, Archypus

Trypocopris fausti was described from Turkey in 1962. The northern part of its range enters Talysh. Previously, the Talysh were apparently not separated from the Caspius. Now fausti and caspius are considered only as subspecies of vernalis (although this is debatable) T. saicassis is reduced to synonyms for caspius, perhaps it was described on the basis of some morph - this is for specialists. Look here, everything is b. m. clear:
http://portal.ubio.org/index.php?search=Tr...bio&startPage=2
Yes, G. molestus also comes to Adjara, which, according to Gusakov, is closer to our stercorosus

03.03.2007 18:15, Guest

I tried to work with the photo smile.gif


well, remove this impropriety!

04.03.2007 1:12, Nimrod

04.03.2007 23:27, Archypus

05.03.2007 15:05, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

Thank you so much for the info smile.gif
We will definitely discuss this with stoboy when we meet again smile.gif

It's funny that the Fausti were not distinguished from the caspiuses-obviously different species...
The Vernalises.. gee-gee... Gusakov, as often happens with him, clearly messed up something smile.gif

About molestus... I haven't seen anything like it in Adjara, although I don't remember what was there from geotrups at all or not...

When I get there, I will definitely make all three "views" in comparison...

05.03.2007 15:07, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

By the way, if I'm not confusing anything, Javelidze does not give this molestus in general for Georgia (which includes Adjara).
So, I suppose there may be a "mess" here too ...

22.05.2007 12:25, Archypus

Here is the information on G. molestus kindly provided by A. Gusakov:
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The museum's collection contains only three specimens of Geotrupes molestus Faldermann, 1835 from the territory of the USSR.

1) Female. "Caucasus. Armen. Geb. Leder. Reitter." Geb. (=German Gebirge) - means mountains. That is, a beetle from mountainous Armenia. By the way, this may be Turkish Armenia, i.e. not the USSR at all. "Leder. Reitter. " – the names of the collectors, although only Leder collected them, and Reutter financed the trips and processed the collected material.

2) Male. Adjara, Arsinsky ridge, near the Gavderz pass, 13. 08. 1969, T. Kalinina.

3) Male. Georgia, Khochataur district, Bakhmaro resort, 07. 07. 1980, A. Seryapin.

In the new Palearctic catalog of Geotrupinae (Loebl; Nikolajev; Kral, 2006), this species is assigned to the subgenus Glyptogeotrupes .

25.05.2007 16:33, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

Thank you dorgoy!
Hello to Gusakov from me smile.gif

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