Looking for images of necrobionts =)

What about it Google.com? and there's an image search? For example, Necrophorus vespillo:

http://www.google.com/images?q=Necrophorus...iw=1152&bih=759

By the way, there is a pdf of the textbook: Gennard_D_Forensic Entomology An Introduction_2007 - - I can send it.

I am also interested in: Gennard_D_Forensic Entomology An Introduction_2007 if possible, please send to pm

Dear necrobiont, do you have any pictures, but they are copyrighted, so you need them for your work? or to print?

Gennard_D_Forensic Entomology An Introduction_2007:

http://files.mail.ru/I8ZZ8F

Musolin, thank you for the link

photos are not needed for printing, the student took a report for the scientific circle, and I am supervising, I picked up the literature, and there is information on the development time of different species in different conditions, there are no illustrations.

for visual perception, I would like to find images of puparia, larvae, etc.

Right here: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...ndpost&p=941253
I have previously exposed imago beetles (several posts).
If necessary, I can re-shoot them better later.

Images of dead-eating beetles are available on the website " Coleopterologists..." http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/silph_fm.htm

Vasily-Feoklistov, thank you, very good photos, I downloaded everything =))

Elizar, also thank you for the resource - I'll be working closely tonight

Well, I look at the beetles you can find something - but the flies are quite a problem, I'll look further.

Thanks again to everyone for their help!

I also wanted to ask: in my literature sources, the species are called Nicrophorus, and this is the second time I have encountered the term Nicrophorus in the net, is there a difference and which term is more correct to use?

I also wanted to ask: in my literature sources, the species are called Nicrophorus, and this is the second time I have encountered the term Nicrophorus in the net, is there a difference and which term is more correct to use?

They are synonymous here is something from my work to quote:
GENUS NICROPHORUS FABRICIUS, 1775
Type species Silpha vespillo Linnaeus, 1758
=Necrophorus Thunberg, 1789 (type species Silpha vespillo Linnaeus, 1758) =Necrophagus Leach, 1815 (type species Silpha vespillo Linnaeus, 1758) =Cyrtoscelis Hope, 1840 (type species Silpha vespillo Linnaeus, 1758)
=Necropter Semenov, 1933 (The type species is Necrophorus investigator Zetterstedt, 1840).
The question of the synonymy of the names "Nicrophorus "and" Necrophorus " is considered in detail by L. H. Herman (1964). Names that have been proposed to denote numerous subgenera and several genera of grave diggers (A. P. Semenov-Tyan-Shansky, 1933) are currently considered by some researchers only as synonyms for the name of the type genus of the subfamily.

Oh, thank you for the explanation, because I'm used to the medical Latin that dead, necrosis is necessarily nEcro...

do you have an interesting nickname, is this an insect, or do you really "love death"?

/ sorry for the impertinence.../

do you have an interesting nickname, is this an insect, or do you really "love death"?

/ sorry for the impertinence.../

I'll answer for the person: The nickname here is with the meaning: Thanatophilus is a genus of dead-eating beetles.

A little bit of imago (beetles + flies) can be found on the website of the Kharkiv Entomological Society:

http://kharkov.naturalist.su/gallery/index...p?category=2952

Unfortunately, there are no larvae.

I think it's OK for non-commercial use; in more serious cases, ask the authors of the photo (if it's not clear how to ask - ask me, I'll ask the authors )

Right here: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...dpost&p=1047705 there's also an image of my trophy. True, the beetle is specific and quite rare for the M. O. (in my opinion).

M. O.-is this the Moscow region?

I'm actually from the Crimea, I'm interested in insects of Ukraine, or at least the middle zone of Russia

in general, I threw off your trox for myself, thank you!

There are also photos of necrobiont diptera on diptera.info (rummage around, there's an extensive gallery.)

M. O.-is this the Moscow region?

Yeah, (3ex. this summer caught for the first time in my life).

Here's the bug.

Pictures:

Nicrophorus_vespillo_1.jpg — (169.61к)


Nicrophorus_vespillo_2.jpg — (96.4 k)

Well, pretty boy!
thank you!

Question: are there cubs or parasites on the back?

On the back of earth mites

Well, if staphylins can be considered necrobionts, then here are my five kopecks
Staphylinus caesareus Cederhjelm, 1798
Taken here: M. O. Balashikha district, Zheleznodorozhny district (date in the file name).

Pictures:

12.07.2006.JPG — (297.15к)

Here are two more beetles

Pictures:

Necrodes_littoralis_1.jpg — (165.44к)


Oiceoptoma_thoracica_1.jpg — (150.06к)

Just a little more

Pictures:

Paederus_fuscipes.jpg — (165.01к)


Philonthus_decorus.jpg — (157.2к)


Phosphuga_atrata.jpg — (98.73к)


Staphylinidae.jpg — (135.18к)


Staphylinus_erythropterus.jpg — (157к)

Here's the bug.

The first one is not N. vespillo. This is most likely N. investigator.
And why did Bledius become Paederus? And neither of them has anything to do with carrion.
Philonthus is not decorus, it resembles Ph. cognatus, but not a fact.

This post was edited by Fornax13-07.10.2010 20: 06

many thanks to everyone who responded to my request, thanks to you, I now have a daddy with great photos!

topic with necrobionts I look up to date

And the forum here is like this-they will always help
Keep another large staf (he constantly catches fly larvae on the corpses of dogs).
Creophilus maxillosus Linnaeus, 1758
Captured: 06.05.2005 Here: M. O. Balashikha district, Zheleznodorozhny district.

Pictures:

Creophilus_maxilosus.jpg — (86.86к)

Well, if we talk in relation to forensic medicine... Of all the beetles, photos of which are posted in this topic, to the subject of research (i.e., as I understand it, species found on the corpses of Homo sapiens), the most characteristic is Necrodes littoralis, a photo of which is contained in the post of the respected gumenuk (URL #25; first picture). In the mass, it is found on corpses like us, as well as on other large carrion (I apologize for some cynicism - but you can't get anywhere). Phosphuga atrata, Staphylinus erythropterus, and Staphylinus caesareus are not related to the topic of discussion at all.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 08.10.2010 19: 13

Viktor, the last staff I laid out just on the corpses of large animals (and thoroughly decomposed, with "maggots" already), I simply did not see him anywhere else. Why shouldn't it also be found on human corpses? Of course, this is just a guess (I haven't encountered human corpses, and thank God).

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 07.10.2010 19: 18

Viktor, the last staff I laid out just on the corpses of large animals (and thoroughly decomposed, with "maggots" already), I simply did not see him anywhere else. Why shouldn't it also be found on human corpses? Of course, this is just a guess (I haven't encountered human corpses, and thank God).

Vasily, I come across (such a job). Also, Staphylinus caesareus is not a necrobiont by any means-a predator. Believe me, on the" human corpses " can meet only by chance. By the way, of the large staffs, Creophilus maxillosus is common on entich corpses. And we have Staphylinus caesareus, for example, just running around the city (and in Yaroslavl in the center even) in the mass runs.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 07.10.2010 19: 26

Vasily, I come across (such a job). Also, Staphylinus caesareus is not a necrobiont by any means-a predator. Believe me, on the" human corpses " can meet only by chance. By the way, of the large staffs, Creophilus maxillosus is common on entich corpses. And we have Staphylinus caesareus, for example, just running around the city (and in Yaroslavl in the center even) in the mass runs.

Well, I had Creophilus maxillosus in mind (so I was not mistaken). Staphylinus caesareus and we have a lot of it everywhere, I put it so "to the heap". In fact, it can make a separate topic for staffs (if there is none).

Among the most typical coleopteran necrobionts:

Histeridae:
Most Saprinus, some Margarinotus and Hister
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/sapaenkm.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/sapcrikm.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/saprinus.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/marbrukm.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coleoptera-us/3231196039/

Staphylinidae:
Creophilus maxillosus, Philonthus (Ph. politus, in the forests of the middle band often Ph. succicola, in open places sometimes Ph. rufipes, Ph. spinipes, Ph. corruscus, etc.), Aleochara (everywhere the most common species on carrion - A. curtula)
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/creop...0maxillosus.htm
http://www.kerbtier.de/Pages/Fotos/FotoLar...0maxillosus.jpg
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/philonthus.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/aleochara%20curtula.htm
http://www.kerbtier.de/Pages/Fotos/FotoLar...a%20curtula.jpg

Silphidae:
Nicrophorus, Necrodes littoralis, Thanatophilus, Oiceoptoma thoracica.
Aclypaea, Ablattaria, and Phosphuga are not related to carrion. The first one seems to be harmful to agriculture, and the rest are predators. I'm not sure about Silpha - as far as I know, they are also predators. Nicrophorus fossor should now be called N. interruptus, as I recall.
http://www.obrazy.wbs.cz/Mrchozrouti.html
http://www.kerbtier.de/cgi-bin/enFSearch.cgi?Fam=Silphidae
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/nicrophorus.htm
http://www.kerbtier.de/Pages/Fotos/FotoLar...%20vespillo.jpg
http://www.kerbtier.de/Pages/Fotos/FotoLar...s%20humator.jpg
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/necro...0littoralis.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/thanatophilus.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/tanrugsk.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/oicthoms.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/oiceo...0thoracicum.htm

Cholevidae (now as a subfamily in Leiodidae): Sciodrepoides (more often on small carrion) and sort of like some Catops:
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/sciodrepoides.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/imag...des_watsoni.jpg

Trogidae: Most Trox on dry carrion
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/trocadms.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/trox%20cadaverinus.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/trox%20sabulosus.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/trox%20hispidus.htm

Cleridae: Necrobia - all 3 species must be on dry carrion
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/necviokm.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/necrufkm.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/necrobia.htm
http://www.kerbtier.de/Pages/Fotos/FotoLar...0ruficollis.jpg

Dermestidae: Dermestes (although I'm not sure about D. lardarius and D. maculatus)
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/derlarkm.htm
http://www.kerbtier.de/Pages/Fotos/FotoLar...20lardarius.jpg
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/derdimms.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/derdimkm.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/derfasms.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/dermurms.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/derme...20undulatus.htm
http://www.kerbtier.de/Pages/Fotos/FotoLar...20undulatus.jpg
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/rus/dersibms.htm
http://www.zin.ru/animalia/coleoptera/imag...s_karynzh_g.jpg
http://bugguide.net/node/view/39726

Nitidulidae: on dry carrion Nitidula and Omosita
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/omosita.htm
http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/nitidula.htm

This post was edited by Fornax13-07.10.2010 19: 51

Fornax, wow how many links .... I have shozi.....=)))

along the way, at the end of the topic, I will have to post a photo of nature (homo sapiens) with all the suggested species living on it =))

Staphylin from the Fornax list:
Philonthus spinipes Sharp, 1874.
Built: 01.10.2000 Here: M. O. Balashikha district, Zheleznodorozhny district.

Pictures:

Philonthus_spinipes.jpg — (135.39к)

hello! again I hope for your help =))

Here's what I saw on the corpse - what kind of insect is this? (sorry for the quality):





ps a rather large fly flew nearby, with a greenish belly - are these its pupae?

fly pupa

Pupari is called (pupa in a cocoon).

fly pupa

puparium, and once a large green rather Lucilia caesar, they colonize the corpse within the first hours.