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Юрентий, 05.11.2005 2:59

Greetings To All!

I once saw keychains with cockroaches and other animals.
There was a desire to make a collection on the principle of a beetle in plastic.
Who will have any thoughts
(?plastic, epoxy, manufacturing method?)

Thanks!

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05.11.2005 15:38, Юрентий

Why don't collectors use this method of preserving material?
What's wrong with it?

05.11.2005 19:57, Pavel Morozov

Dear Yurentiy,
The method is only good for keychains and other nice trinkets. Working with molten epoxy resin is not safe for health (both burns and fumes are harmful). For such "pouring" you need all sorts of molds and other necessities. This method will take much more time and effort. And then, not all insects can be saved like this.
In general, quite inconvenient.

05.11.2005 23:34, Юрентий

No, of course not. It's not like that. It's not the tar. Now there are many transparent materials that can be quite relatively safe for health.
Just after reading about how insect collections are created, I got the (probably amateurish) impression that in this case, the latest achievements in the chemistry of materials are not used at all.
I read it once: (I opened the box and the butterfly's wings fell off frown.gif)
This is a heart attack you can get if this butterfly is rare and the price is $ 100.
Plus a possible change or loss of color.

And key chains, although "trinkets", but when I saw insects inside them, they woke up something from my childhood (I am an avid tech and computer scientist for almost 15 years) and nature has always been in the last place for me.

And what methods of making collections exist now in entomology?

06.11.2005 12:36, Dracus

Methods of preserving insects are exclusively traditional, time-tested - the main ones are pin pricking for preserving in dry form and preserving in alcohol, for larvae, wax injection, mummification, etc. are also used. In general, I have nothing against the proposed method, the details of the structure are even more convenient to look at (although for this you still need to properly straighten the insect in the keychain) and it is impossible to damage the insect after filling. But as Morozzz correctly pointed out, it takes a lot of time to save each instance, whereas it takes a few seconds or less to pin it. Given that summer receipts are sometimes huge, your method is not suitable from a practical point of view.

06.11.2005 17:18, PVOzerski

I note that sometimes for definition, comparison, or even for any scientific needs, an insect may need to be" retroactively " straightened out, or even a little gutted. The beast, preserved in the traditional way, can still be soaked, etc. If it is filled in some polymer-you know... I have seen very sad expressions on the faces of people who worked, for example, with "natural keychains" - pieces of amber with fossil insects inside frown.gif

06.11.2005 22:00, Юрентий

To sum up, you can probably do this:

- For decorative purposes-filling
(maximum protection from external influences)

- For scientific purposes-pricking, preservation, etc
. (for possible subsequent work with the "material")

But I need it for decoration and maximum security.
I will try to develop the simplest and most convenient
method of filling (and you will have to work out the technology from scratch).
I will share the results (if of course it will be interesting to someone).

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH!!!

26.02.2006 11:02, Aleksandr Ermakov

Fillings (tightly) in a transparent polymer are used for dissected genitals.
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01.03.2006 15:28, Den

I am interested smile.gifPrecisely from the point of view of beauty. If there are results or any interesting findings (articles, guides on this subject) - lather pliz on arabidopsis doggie <url>.

31.05.2007 16:16, vit-y

I have voprs.
And who knows the technology of manufacturing keychains with "bugs"?
I'm very interested.
I would be grateful if you send it to vit-y@yandex.ru

31.05.2007 19:16, RippeR

I'm also interested.. I'd make a couple of beetles like that.. for beauty smile.gif

01.06.2007 13:24, Swansson

And I have the opposite question - how to get this insect out of the keychain? The usual key chains are transparent, with a phosphor applied on one of the sides. What can they be made of, do you have any ideas? I tried acetone, ethyl acetate, dichloroethane, and hydrocarbon solvents - I don't frown.gifknow how to dissolve it.

02.06.2007 4:50, Vadim Yakubovich

I'm also curious. The Chinese sometimes fill such cool creatures and sell them for pennies, but I would like to get them without tar. It seems to me that it will not be possible to dissolve the plastic, in general, is it possible to depolymerize it in principle without destroying the "contents"

02.06.2007 16:01, Alex2006

Somewhere I heard about a solvent based on isopropyl alcohol. in general, these key chains seem to be acrylic... need to try

02.06.2007 22:15, Zhuk

I even tried setting it on fire and it didn't melt frown.gif

02.06.2007 22:31, RippeR

saw smile.gif

03.06.2007 13:27, Aleksandr Ermakov

Drill and prick smile.gif
But seriously, it seems to me that after cleaning (dissolving, etc.) the bug will fall apart into segments and segments

This post was edited by scarabee - 03.06.2007 13: 29

07.06.2007 15:16, vit-y

There is an opinion that these keychains are made of acrylic glass. So I found this phrase on the web:
"Organic substances (chlorinated derivatives of hydrocarbons, ketones, esters) are strong solvents for acrylic glass."

And who will offer the fill technology itself????????????

16.10.2007 14:32, Sonk

Similarly-LOOKING FOR INSECT FILL TECHNOLOGY smile.gif

29.10.2007 12:08, Dmitrii Musolin

by the way, I definitely met a discussion that this method (fill) is very good for educational purposes. I studied and taught entomology. to the forestry department. I am sure that such drugs are very convenient.

29.10.2007 16:37, mikee

Similarly, I'm looking for an insect fill technology smile.gif

Haven't you tried searching on the Internet? The result of a simple search for your words "insect fill technology" gives one significant, albeit banal in content, result: http://igrushka.kz/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4243 But, after all, you can get sophisticated with the options for writing the query wink.gif

16.11.2010 23:16, Shtil

Although the topic seems to be outdated, but still... Using the method of scientific poke, I learned to get insects out of key chains. I dissolve acrylic in chloroform. It turns out slowly, but surely.
The result is completely different. Some beetles turn out to be intact, without the slightest flaw, others fall apart for spare parts. Even different instances of the same species come out differently. Apparently, the matter lies in the technologies of filling and" freshness " of the insect before it.

I'll post the photo here, maybe someone will determine...

http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...00#entry1127815
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17.11.2010 12:16, Victor Titov

Although the topic seems to be outdated, but still... Using the method of scientific poke, I learned to get insects out of key chains.

As an experiment, it's interesting, of course. But, to be honest, I don't see the point in these long manipulations to extract beetles from keychains. These instances have no value at all. There is no data for labels... To me, it's a waste of time.
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18.11.2010 0:51, Shtil

Yes, I agree completely.
But sometimes you just want to waste your time.... For the soul, so to speak. Of course, I didn't run around the souvenir stands with my tongue hanging out. Something scraped together in 5 years, you can also "fool around".
And by the way, there are no long manipulations. I put a keychain on the air, and a week later I took out the bug.

Whole or in pieces. smile.gif

18.11.2010 11:43, Victor Titov

 
But sometimes you just want to waste your time....

Well, I don't know... Time is like money. I don't want to waste both of them, regardless of their numberwink.gif.

18.11.2010 17:26, RippeR

I don't agree. I just really want to throw away - to amuse myself with rest and entertainment. But what's holding you back is that later you'll need that money for something more important, usually less pleasant, and you can spend your time on something that will usually bring in more money )

This post was edited by RippeR - 11/18/2010 17: 27

18.11.2010 18:06, Victor Titov

I don't really mean that. "Wasted" in my understanding is exactly wasted, to no avail, when, after spending (money or time), you think: "And why did you need it?!" And spending money and time on recreation and entertainment is just not in vain - the pleasure received is still a significant result. Well, if it's fun for someone to extract beetles from key chains, spread them out and prick them, then, of course, it's not for nothing. I just don't see the point. And to spend time (money) on meaningless activities - this is just for me and is "wasted". But this, I emphasize, is my private opinion.
P. S. Fludim, brother, fludim... wink.gif

19.11.2010 0:19, RippeR

And, well, who does it deliver, who does not ) Here already, as they say, about tastes...

PS and I tolkyo flood and know how ))

20.11.2010 21:27, Serg Svetlov

Well, if you spend time for the soul, then it's better to go somewhere! At the same time, or wherever.For me, the time spent in nature in search of beetles with a good friend (partner) is much more pleasant wink.gifthan pulling beetles out of the "fill".
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20.11.2010 23:56, RippeR

To do this, there is winter, this is firstly, and secondly, not everyone has enough money and time to go somewhere.. I don't understand why everyone jumped on this fill. I pick my nose for several hours a day, and no one can reproach me )

21.11.2010 1:01, Victor Titov

I don't understand why everyone jumped on this fill. I pick my nose for several hours a day, and no one can blame me )

Andrew, but no one attacked. They simply expressed their personal attitude (without imposing anything on anyone or calling for anything). By the way, here you also expressed your true opinion on the issue discussed in this topic, comparing the extraction of beetles from key chains with picking your nose wink.gif. Aptly and frankly, you can't say anything lol.gif.

21.11.2010 2:58, Shtil

Well, if you spend time for the soul, then it's better to go somewhere! At the same time, or wherever.For me, the time spent in nature in search of beetles with a good friend (partner) is much more pleasant wink.gifthan pulling beetles out of the "fill".


Yes indeed! jump.gif What's really there! I came home from work, ran to the market, figured out something to eat, did some chores here and there, and my family still wants something. confused.gif Ah! Attention! Of course! How much time is available here? A couple of hours? That's great! I'll finish my smoke, get some change out of my pockets, and go to China without fail. The main thing is to get out of here quickly, otherwise you'll have to go to work tomorrow. wall.gif

Well, I don't know... Time is like money. I don't want to waste both of them, regardless of their number wink.gif.

I don't really mean that. "Wasted" in my understanding is exactly wasted, to no avail, when, after spending (money or time), you think: "And why did you need it?!" And spending money and time on recreation and entertainment is just not in vain - the pleasure received is still a significant result.


Pardontier, what's this about throwing spears into the stratosphere? confused.gif Ah! Got it. Entertainment? Then I don't see the logic. eek.gif

PS / OH MY GOD! frown.gif I wasted TWO WHOLE MINUTES writing this message!
Everything! Urgently make up for your sins! My hair shirt is lying around somewhere...
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21.11.2010 3:27, RippeR

By the way, here you also expressed your true opinion on the issue discussed in this topic, comparing the extraction of beetles from key chains with picking your nose wink.gif. Aptly and frankly, you can't say anything lol.gif.

I consider nose-picking to be one of my most important activities. I don't understand why there is so much disregard for this activity )
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21.11.2010 16:25, Victor Titov

  
Pardontier, what's this about throwing spears into the stratosphere? confused.gif Ah! Got it. Entertainment? Then I don't see the logic. eek.gif
PS / OH MY GOD! frown.gif I wasted TWO WHOLE MINUTES writing this message!
Everything! Urgently make up for your sins! My hair shirt is lying around somewhere...

Do you want to be a prankster? You're welcome! Only alone and in front of a mirror. I'm not going to talk about it that way. You asked for your opinion about your class on dissolving keychains, and I gave you my opinion. What's there to argue about? If you like it, then continue to dissolve it. I'm not interested. That's all.
I consider nose-picking to be one of my most important activities. I don't understand why there is so much disregard for this activity )

Did I express disdain? I just saw in your post URL #30 an equal sign between dissolving keychains and "one of your most important activities". That's all.

21.11.2010 17:47, Shtil

I didn't ask anyone's opinion, but just shared the information. Just because it's useless to you doesn't mean it's also useless to others.
If I offended you with my tone, please excuse me. I wanted to defuse the situation. shuffle.gif

21.11.2010 18:14, Victor Titov

I didn't ask anyone's opinion, but just shared the information. Just because it's useless to you doesn't mean it's also useless to others.

Okay, let me clarify. I thought that if someone shared information publicly, it meant that everyone could express their opinion - not for discussion, but just for information. Which I did.

If I offended you with my tone, please excuse me. I wanted to defuse the situation. shuffle.gif

No offense is out of the question! I hope it's mutual. beer.gif And, by the way, participation in this forum is not only useful in the applied sense, but also allows you to have a good time wink.gif. Consequently, the time spent in the forum threads is not wasted at all (at least for me personally, this is the case).

21.11.2010 18:18, Shtil

  
No offense is out of the question! I hope it's mutual. beer.gif And, by the way, participation in this forum is not only useful in the applied sense, but also allows you to have a good time wink.gif. Consequently, the time spent in the forum threads is not wasted at all (at least for me personally, this is the case).


I fully agree beer.gif
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23.11.2010 1:30, slava penza

try to fill the beetle with kosmofen glue for acrylic, just so that it is in a tube, the tube costs 200 rubles, it will be enough for several beetles, and then you will need to grind, write the result, I just don't have time to do this)))

10.12.2010 12:24, Garricos

About how to get a bug - I "soaked" for several days in a nail polish remover containing ethyl acetate. Then carefully removed the softened epoxy with tweezers. Beetle like from the garden)

This post was edited by Garricos - 12/10/2010 12: 26

10.12.2010 22:25, Black Coleopter

About insects in keychains: There is such a magazine "Insects and their friends". Today I go and see a new issue came out. It is written: The swimmer is edged (Latin is observed), and in the keychain of a Black water lover they offer. Be sure to pay attention! Where is this world going!?
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