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Yakovlev, 05.11.2009 10:36

Dear colleagues!
Tell me, who knows, I think it will be interesting to many.

I have published 3 articles in a Zoojournal and 1 in EO. I know what the fee is. On the website of iz-va Nauka, this is stated in the form of a very funny text - that they do not work with invoices, that you need to come in person, that there may not be any money in the cash register, and other crap.

The question is - who received, at least share what kind of fees? And is it really possible to get them?

I have published about 12 pages of solo works and 30 as co-authors.

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05.11.2009 10:44, Dmitrii Musolin

As I understand it, royalties are paid for articles TRANSLATED and PUBLISHED by THEM (Interperiodics) into English. yaz.

05.11.2009 10:51, gumenuk

According to the law, as I understand it, royalties are due for any material if the publication went on sale

05.11.2009 19:47, Proctos

The approximate payment procedure is as follows:
Money is paid only for articles translated and published in Entomological Review
http://www.maik.rssi.ru/cgi-perl/journal.p...enteng&lang=rus
If your articles are there, then a YEAR after their publication in the ER, you need to PERSONALLY appear in the building of the publishing house on Trade Union Street (Moscow, Belyaevo metro station) and get cash pupaars at the cash desk. 10-15 pupaars for a magazine page, I don't remember exactly.
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05.11.2009 19:54, Dmitrii Musolin

I very much doubt that we are entitled to anything for articles published in Russia, and even more so it is realistic to get it... Even abroad, you often have to pay for a publication (or be a member of the society that publishes the magazine).

In the MAIK, you can also get a fee by proxy (if someone goes and brings them a piece of paper) - but you need to find out exactly how to draw it up. If someone has recently passed or will pass this path, please share your experience (including details about the power of attorney - what to write and how to write it).

05.11.2009 20:10, Proctos

The fee is quite real, all those who were listed in the authors of ER and PJ (Paleontological Journal,
http://www.maik.rssi.ru/cgi-perl/journal.p...aleng&lang=rus) we received it a year after it was published.
The Russian version of the Paleontological Journal is translated almost completely. All taxonomic works and the most important articles on other aspects of entomology are translated from the Entomological Review and Zoojournal.
I can't say anything specific about the registration of a power of attorney, but I need to find out from the people.
If you publish a lot on both modern and fossil topics, then you can earn about $ 2,000 net per year. I know such cases, but this is certainly the maximum! mol.gif

This post was edited by Proctos - 05.11.2009 20: 15

05.11.2009 21:58, IchMan

Yes, there are not many such magazines (like only 3), where you can earn something from articles about beetles. It's not so easy to get there, especially when you don't belong to a close circle of regular authors, and you have to wait quite a long time for publication. So I don't advise you to rely too much on this and score ed.portfolios of these magazines - no one will rush to publish them right away. Until the mandatory review process is completed, until this and that... "a snail slowly crawls along the slope of Fuji..." And the manuscript may simply get lost, and no one will tell you about it until you yourself worry about the fate of your work. This is rare, but it has happened. In general, I wish you patience and endurance on this difficult path...
Much more than other magazines, where to publish, you also need to pay in a convertible currency for each pagefrown.gif, those who have subscribed to this magazine or (in some countries) members of the corresponding national ent. society are often exempt from payment. But the status of such journals that are really quoted among colleagues (and the impact factor) is not comparable to ER, etc.

Regarding the power of attorney - you can get copyright on it, but you need to have ALL the output data of the article, the power of attorney form is normal, with passport data - I issued it to a colleague at the Institute, there were no problems.

05.11.2009 22:19, Papaver

.. If you publish a lot on both modern and fossil topics, then you can earn about $ 2,000 net per year. ...

The foundation for myth-making about the sweet life of scientists in Russia is laid...
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06.11.2009 11:37, PVOzerski

And I still have a question - not quite on the topic, but close. Let's say I'm going to write a book and post it publicly on the Internet. At the same time, the potential publisher does not object to this act of mine (posting). How can I publish the materials that should be included in this monograph, also in the form of "VAKOV" articles, so as not to run into complaints from the relevant journals later? Never mind the fee...

06.11.2009 12:03, Dmitrii Musolin

It is strange if the potential publisher is not against open access of the book... Who will buy the book later?

Well, the order of publication can only be as follows: first the original articles, then the book (or reviews). If some data has already been published, it cannot be re-published as part of the original article. Of course, they may not notice, but this is wrong.

(I had problems when a Czech reviewer didn't skip an article because 1 drawing was previously included in my Russian review...)

06.11.2009 12:06, Dmitrii Musolin

  
Regarding the power of attorney - you can get copyright on it, but you need to have ALL the output data of the article, the power of attorney form is normal, with passport data - I issued it to a colleague at the Institute, there were no problems.


and one power of attorney for the entire list of articles or a separate power of attorney for each?

well, just a question: no one in the foreseeable future from St. Petersburg on these issues in the MAIK will not? It would be possible to check in practice... smile.gif

and a YEAR must pass since the publication of the issue of the journal or prosot in 2010 is paid for articles in 2009 ?

06.11.2009 13:27, Yakovlev

Thank you so much for the comments of knowledgeable people.
Yes, all these articles have been translated and published in Ent. review.
I have never had to pay even a penny somewhere for publications, except for printing color, which is necessary in my group, and publishing a monograph as a supplement to Eversmania.
10-15 pupaars per page is quite normal. And we are not talking about making money on this, but simply if you put money for publishing, then you need to get it.
In addition, anyone who somehow suffers in the light of preparing articles for the HAC list, I recommend publishing in magazines such as EO, or bull MOIP, or Zoozhurnala. In addition, there are of course publications in foreign publications - Zootaxa, zoojournal of the Linnean Region, Entomologika Fennika, etc.
And then, we have a lot of entomologists who do not have a single (!) article in zoological publications, but only in mass graves, such as various messengers. In addition, there are also non-VAKOV, but specialized Russian magazines in Russian that do not charge money for publication - these are Eversmannia, Russian ezh, Altai Zool. zhurnal, Amur Zool. zhurnal, Caucasian E. bull. At least all the packs will be quoted in Zoo Records, and not die forever in the endless stream of messengers...
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06.11.2009 14:04, PVOzerski

2Musolin: well, the fact that the publisher does not mind is elementary: I order the minimum required circulation at my own expense - and neither I nor the publisher has any special reasons to expect that this will be a bestseller that can bring profit. it smile.gifimposes rather draconian restrictions on the further distribution of materials published in their journals. Do they not fall under their subsequent publication in a monograph and the subsequent publication of this monograph in free access? Actually, I had the idea to put a GFDL license on the book - if you're interested, here's what it is: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_FDL - but is it compatible with preliminary publications in MAIK journals? What about KMC logs, by the way?

This post was edited by PVOzerski - 06.11.2009 14: 08

06.11.2009 14:31, Dmitry Vlasov

By the way, now the payment is somewhat less - I have 15 pages in the article in the EA, and the fee is 80 USD...
I received it (the fee) most recently, people received for 2003-06. We need to call and find out what year they are already paying for. If you need phone numbers, work schedule, etc. - in the personal account!

06.11.2009 15:22, Papaver

I'll ask the Zoozhurnal - they're sitting next to each other... wink.gifOn Wednesday.
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06.11.2009 15:32, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

By the way, now the payment is somewhat less - I have 15 pages in the article in the EA, and the fee is 80 USD...
I received it (the fee) most recently, people received for 2003-06. We need to call and find out what year they are already paying for. If you need phone numbers, work schedule, etc. - in the personal account!


It's funny, this summer I received a fee and it seemed to me that it was more than usual!

By the way, I didn't remember the output data of my articles, my aunts had a fight-they had a fight and looked it up in their database. wink.gif

By proxy, I received and I received, but a few years ago. And our bureaucracy is growing stronger by leaps and bounds.
The form is the most standard - I, imyarek, trust, imyarek, get your copyright fee (this is not a fee called!!!) for.... here you need to specify exactly the data of publications .... Of course, all full names and passport data. In my case, the" hand signature " was certified by the academic secretary. That seems to be all.
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15.11.2009 22:19, Dmitrii Musolin

I did write to the MAIK sales register and this is what I received in response:

Dear author,
Payment of royalties for 2009 will begin in the fall of 2010. (T,E, THE SAME YEAR SHOULD ALMOST PASS).

Dear author,
You have applied to the Yandex. Checkout, where royalties are paid.
The ticket office is located at: Moscow, ul. Trade Union house 90.
We do not disclose any royalties, and you can only find out when
you receive them.
There is no statute of limitations for the payment of royalties in our sales register.
Our sales register does not transfer funds to customers ' personal accounts
.
Residents of Moscow and the Moscow region are accepted by
appointment by phone 333-44-25 during
the opening hours of the ticket office.
Nonresident authors are accepted on the day of applying to the cash register, but
if there is no money in it.
We do not advise anyone to go to Moscow only for a fee. There may
not be any funds in Yandex. Checkout.

If you can't come to Moscow by yourself, then your royalties
can be collected by someone you know by proxy
on your behalf.
The power of attorney must include:
- the author's last name, first name and patronymic; - the author's passport details and place
of residence;
- the last name, first name and patronymic of the person you trust to receive
the fee;
- the passport details and place of residence of the person you trust to receive
the fee;
- the name of the journal, the year of its publication, the number and pages of an article based on
the Russian version of the magazine.
The power of attorney can be certified both by a notary
(it is mandatory to have
a photocopy of the passport), and in
the human resources department at the place of work (in this case, a photocopy of the passport is not
needed).
The power of attorney can be issued in English.
For more information, please call 333-44-25 during
the sales register's opening hours.: 10.30-12.00 and 13.00-15.30.

Best regards, Yandex. Checkout employees.
--
Best regards,
gonorar mailto:gonorar@maik.ru


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by the way, in their response, this is called "copyright fee".

And again, the question is: No one from St. Petersburg will be there on these cases?

15.11.2009 22:24, Dmitrii Musolin

2Musolin: well, the fact that the publisher does not mind is elementary: I order the minimum required print run at my own expense - and neither I nor the publisher has any special reason to expect that it will be a bestseller that can bring profit smile.gif

"that makes sense... they may be against it out of harmfulness... smile.gif

I am concerned about something else: as far as I know, the IAIC imposes rather draconian restrictions on the further distribution of materials published in their journals. Do they not fall under their subsequent publication in a monograph and the subsequent publication of this monograph in free access?


-- it would be the height of impudence to impose restrictions on their further publication in the monograph... But the subsequent publication of this monograph in the public domain is another matter... I believe that they have no position on this issue at all...

I enclose the MAIK Agreement on the transfer of author's rights. Take a look in it. In general, I think that no one will ever know and will not mind....

Actually, I had the idea to put a GFDL license on the book - if you're interested, here's what it is: http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_FDL - but is it compatible with preliminary publications in MAIK journals? What about KMC logs, by the way?

- - I think they don't know what it is smile.gifat all )))

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15.11.2009 23:32, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

To Musolin-Thank you for the information!

But! When I received my fee at the end of August of this year, there was still no money for publishing in the 1st issue for 2008 (PJ). So much for the year.

15.11.2009 23:33, Dmitrii Musolin

with the timing strange then...

03.12.2009 21:24, Guest

with the timing strange then...

especially nothing strange... usually not less than a year, but in my memory it was much longer, almost something 3 years... It all depends on when (and whether) the money is transferred by a foreign publisher. And in the 90-ies with the transfer of denyuzhek for publications in the Review was somehow out of hand. Now it seems to be nothing.

03.12.2009 21:42, Dmitrii Musolin

they wrote to me that it was a year, so it's strange to me that until recently one and a half was not enough. And the publisher is now one - MAIK-Interperiodika...

03.12.2009 23:51, Papaver

I did write to the MAIK ticket office and this is what I got in response:
... ... ...

To this, we can add that:
Now they receive royalties for 2008.
You need to order money at the cash register in advance!
And come for them on the appointed day!
Pay attention to the non-standard opening hours of the Yandex.Checkout.

This post was edited by Papaver - 03.12.2009 23: 57
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04.12.2009 0:18, Yakovlev

We do not disclose any royalties, and you can only find out when
you receive them.

Our sales register does not transfer funds to customers ' personal accounts
.

Nonresident authors are accepted on the day of applying to the cash register, but
if there is no money in it.
We do not advise anyone to go to Moscow only for a fee. There may
not be any funds in Yandex. Checkout.


Best regards, Yandex. Checkout employees.

I also received such a document. I think that so far this is the most ridiculous thing that has given birth to Science or some of its subsidiaries. Even newsprint magazines sold at 10 times the cost of production are more serious acts.
The best wishes of Yandex. Checkout employees are the most ridiculous. Everything is done in order to pay as little money as possible to the authors. Instead of sending translations to authors in a year or a year and a half (these deadlines are also very strange).
After all, they, sheep, understand what country they work in, that we have both Kamchatka and Magadan, from where people in Moscow sometimes never get out, which does not prevent them from publishing good articles in this region.
The stupid sovdepovsky document has gone berserk. Evil is not enough.
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04.12.2009 17:00, Juglans

It may not seem surprising, but scientists fly to Moscow from Magadan and Kamchatka more often than from Novosibirsk. Almost everyone gets a power of attorney - there were no problems. Another thing is that an annual subscription to Zool. zhurnal costs more than to Nature. What you want: MAIK is a very profitable company.
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04.12.2009 20:48, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

if "the stupid sovdepovsky got mad"... it's just a robbery. sadly enough.


exactly robbery. Many years ago, I naively asked: would it be easier to give them my account details? I just didn't realize right away that the company was interested in the authors not receiving any money at all.

04.12.2009 21:20, Yakovlev

It may not seem surprising, but scientists fly to Moscow from Magadan and Kamchatka more often than from Novosibirsk. Almost everyone gets a power of attorney - there were no problems. Another thing is that an annual subscription to Zool. zhurnal costs more than to Nature. What you want: MAIK is a very profitable company.

Be that as it may, you will agree that this behavior of Yandex.Checkout is a direct action to pay people as little as possible. The very text of this appeal to the authors looks like a mockery. Do you know why it looks like this? Because this is bullying!

04.12.2009 22:53, Sanangel

Dear friends, you are lucky that you have not encountered the Israeli bureaucracy - the most BUREAUCRATIC (or BUREAUCRATIC) BUREAUCRACY of ALL THE BUREAUCRACIES IN THE WORLD!!!

04.12.2009 23:02, Papaver

Dear friends, you are lucky that you have not encountered the Israeli bureaucracy - the most BUREAUCRATIC (or BUREAUCRATIC) BUREAUCRACY of ALL THE BUREAUCRACIES IN THE WORLD!!!

This "same" bureaucracy of yours is a relatively harmless branch of "our" ...

04.12.2009 23:53, Sanangel

I don't want to expand on this topic, but I will give you just one example: social security institutions pay bonuses to young women (officials) for hiding information. That is, if you know what you are supposed to do, you will get it by shouting, if you don't know, no one will tell you. They save on the elderly and the unemployed and divide bonuses among their own people.

04.12.2009 23:54, Yakovlev

I agree with Papaver, not knowing the Israeli bureaucracy, I think by default that Soviet trains are the most expensive trains in the world...

04.12.2009 23:59, Papaver

1. I don't want to elaborate on this topic, but I will give you just one example: social security institutions pay bonuses to pcidushkas (officials) for hiding information. That is, if you know what you are supposed to do, then you will get it by shouting, if you don't know, no one will tell you.
2. They save on the elderly and unemployed and divide bonuses among their own people.

1. And we have these p ... dushki do it out of love for art and unwillingness to move.
2. In addition to what you said, we also take out of their pockets to add to those bonuses.
3. Are we going to continue offline?

05.12.2009 0:30, PVOzerski

Whatever anyone says, and I, after I work out the VAKOV "seven" (if the rules are not changed again or they don't do any other dirty tricks), I'm thinking of switching to such a system of my publications: a local collection or magazine (to "stake out") and then uploading pdf files to the Internet. This will be more accessible to readers than articles in MAIK magazines.

05.12.2009 0:39, Yakovlev

Yesterday I received news about the accumulated Vakov dozen. What I wish everyone-I have a familiar nerd for 2 years, the protection was postponed due to a change in the rules. By the way, the most decent magazine from "nashi" is the Eurasian Entomological Journal. It is printed on chalk, has color capabilities, sends out impressions, and is well reviewed. It is made by smart young people and printed in a commercial printing house.
I once asked in Zina why EO is so expensive. So we have an old machine, the printing house is expensive.... And as articles from the file are re-typed by typists with typos (Botjournal). After all, we have the operator's rate - so let him dial it. Archaism and conservatism brought to the point of absurdity. I was scolded here for the high cost of books by some figures. Write to the EO editor and reason with them about their prices. More use will be

05.12.2009 1:37, PVOzerski

EO is also not an independent magazine, but a MAIK magazine. I suspect that its pricing policy is not in charge of its editorial frown.gifstaff at all .

05.12.2009 6:39, Juglans

The MAIK contract states that the author "sells" the rights to the article to the publisher - for this they pay a fee. MAIK is a separate topic. Every year, FOR MONEY, foreigners download several hundred THOUSAND articles in MAIK magazines - the price of each article is at least $ 20. Subscriptions for foreign partners cost a lot of money. At the same time, magazine editors have been trying in vain for many years to get at least one extra rate (not to mention raising their salaries). The quality of printing and translations leaves much to be desired. And, most importantly: take the same Zoojournal or ZHOB-this is the 21st century, and manuscripts of articles are accepted in printed form by regular mail, correspondence with authors by email is conducted only in exceptional cases, electronic versions of articles are not sent. Because "The editorial office does not have the technical ability to correspond by e-mail..." - simply, there is no person in the editorial office who could deal with such processing. If the magazine is located on the basis of an institute, then the institute itself allocates extra rates (more precisely, it can allocate them) and sets additional payments.

05.12.2009 8:45, Sergey Didenko

Vakov's seven (dozen) - what is it? Number of articles (pages, percentage points) in VAKOV journals required for defense? (candidate's or doctoral degree)

05.12.2009 10:42, Yakovlev

Now they require 2-3 articles in the journals of the Higher Attestation Commission list for the candidate and 7 for the doctoral ones. Of course, the council looks not only at these articles, but also pays attention to other parameters, but these formalities are necessary.

10.08.2011 12:09, rhopalocera.com

Yesterday I received royalties for articles I published in a Zoological journal from 1996 to 2010. In general, I was pleasantly surprised by the speed of service (it took less than 20 minutes to issue fees). The amount, of course, is not so hot - a little less than 700 US pupaars (they give it out in US pupaars), but it's damn nice to get money for Vakov articles smile.gif. Previously, of course, I had to call the ticket office.
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10.08.2011 12:12, NaaNa

and I thought about NATURE after reading the heading

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