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Gentlemen Entomologists help me choose a university

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Avatar, 17.12.2009 16:36

I was fond of insects since childhood. Especially beetles.
And now I wanted to connect my life with what I love and admire.
You already have a higher education ( technical )

The following questions arise:
1. What institutes are there that teach you how to become a Coleopterologist (Entomologist)? Which ones are better ?
2. What are the specialties and related professions?
3. What are the admission methods for people who already have a higher technical education
4. And what do people who work in their specialty, so to speak?

Here are probably the ones that are still of interest in the first place. Interested in Russia. Moscow or St. Petersburg. although information about other cities may be of interest to other applicants smile.gif
Surely there are people on the forum who work in such Institutes and they all know smile.gifthis in advance thank you.
P.S. After the new year, you should already choose a university and start preparing for the entrance exams.

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17.12.2009 16:50, Avatar

Briefly about yourself :

The other day I raised my collection collected in the 9th grade. Nothing special. Beetles of the middle zone (Nizhny Novgorod region) Candy box, round-eared needles (from my mother's sewing machine, probably fitting rooms) Caught himself and friends brought only a deer beetle borrowed from the school collection =)
Since childhood, some kind of irresistible craving for beetles. I read in some magazine or library that they are being starved of ether. Just found it on the shelves with tools - this was the catalyst for creating the collection. On the balcony, he arranged insectariums with a three-liter jar, a dozen May beetles. I regularly changed their birch branches. Until the ninth grade, I always let go of all the beetles, because I was brought up that it was bad to kill beetles =) It was sad to part with them, but my conscience told me so ) Having learned that they can be dried and collected, and even that this is a rather humane way - I was not stopped ) I remember in the spring when it was still snowing daily dreams about beetles were already beginning =) How they fly, crawl, and are caught.
Then Moscow Institute of Care vanity. And somehow it was forgotten
But you can't escape fate =)
Waiting for your advice.

17.12.2009 16:54, Dmitrii Musolin

probably in many universities you are not only TAUGHT, but also more often GIVEN the OPPORTUNITY to study something. You can't learn to be a coleopterist anywhere, you have to learn it yourself. Good universities will help and direct you.

The second education, as I understand it, is paid. Isn't that right? What is your degree? Does it make sense to try applying for a master's degree?

Do you want a classical biological education or an applied one? In the first case, you need to go to university, in the second-you can go to a agricultural or forest university with good entomologists. traditions.

What are your thoughts and future plans for work?

In St. Petersburg at the univ. there is a department of entomology (http://www.entomology.bio.pu.ru), near ZIN (where coleopterologists and collections live). In St. Petersburg, there is also a forestry engineering academy with the Department of Zoology (formerly called the Department of Forest Entomology -- http://ftacademy.ru/academy/faculties/LHF/cafedra/zoologia/). Forest insects, especially bark beetles , are a traditional object of the department's work.

I work both there and there (to varying degrees), I can probably tell you something. Write to us. musolin@gmail.com
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17.12.2009 17:35, PVOzerski

So in fact, in Moscow, at the Moscow State University, there is a department of entomology smile.gif

17.12.2009 17:37, Dmitrii Musolin

yes, of course! I wrote about the departments I know-about St. Petersburg.

in Moscow, there is also MGUL-Moscow State University. univ. the woods. and other universities.

There is also a ped. institutions.

17.12.2009 17:54, Avatar

In our newspaper I read that Arvid Barshevsky, a coleopterologist, has become the Rector of Daugavpils University in Latvia. How did he get such a title then?

I have an engineering degree in the specialty " Automation of technological processes and production (in metallurgy)" MISiS

About the second education began only now to think. Since there is no practical benefit from the previous one (in the sense of work), which also does not smile.gifexist, the question of determining the life path arose. I didn't think about it before I just went to MISIS where my mom and dad studied I thought everything would be decided by itself. And now I know that scientific activity would be pleasant for me. It would be especially interesting if it was related to beetles.
So I ask knowledgeable people what is in this area, What is promising?

Surely you need an appropriate education. Therefore, I started with the choice of a university.

The field is not well studied for me, so special thanks for the information about job types. And what is the source of income (For whom it is not a secret)

17.12.2009 17:58, Dmitrii Musolin

What should we do?! Rector of the St. Petersburg Forestry Engineering Academy - Doctor of Biology, Head of the Department of Zoology and Hunting A.V. Selikhovkin (link given above).

Of course, the job is difficult... Rather, first of all, salaries are low...

I don't have time to write now, probably people will answer in more detail.

17.12.2009 17:59, Yakovlev

Glory to Barshchevsky!!! Cool guy! Editor of the Baltic Coleopterological journal

17.12.2009 20:06, vasiliy-feoktistov

To Avatar: see more here (maybe something will be useful).
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=270939

17.12.2009 20:36, Yakovlev

What should we do?! Rector of the St. Petersburg Forestry Engineering Academy - Doctor of Biology, Head of the Department of Zoology and Hunting A.V. Selikhovkin (link given above).

Of course, the job is difficult... Rather, first of all, salaries are low...

I don't have time to write now, probably people will answer in more detail.

Doctors and PhD candidates are often rectors. For example, in the huge Chelyabinsk GPU - Latyushin

17.12.2009 22:31, Proctos

Why study as a coelopterologist (entomologist) if you already have a diploma in HE?
Become an applicant and just start slowly collecting material for the dissertation.

17.12.2009 22:59, RippeR

Proctos:
explain the pliz more broadly. I am interested in this topic )

18.12.2009 0:26, Cosmos

Buddhists will probably take it upon themselves to sharpen the Avatar, in Kyzyl you need to go somewhere. And if the problem is with insects in consciousness-maybe to psychologists or shamans? It's quite another matter if you still collect them in real life, and do not think about it... )))

This post was edited by Cosmos - 12/18/2009 00: 29

18.12.2009 0:37, Papaver

Buddhists will probably take it upon themselves to sharpen the Avatar... ... ...

Rather, adherents of Hinduism...

18.12.2009 5:07, Yakovlev

Why study as a coelopterologist (entomologist) if you already have a diploma in HE?
Become an applicant and just start slowly collecting material for the dissertation.

1. Biological education will be extremely useful
but:
1. time
2. money
3. in part, common sense often leads to just such a decision

Having HE, you can pass the CAND minimum and defend yourself in any field of knowledge, except medicine and general law. You can also go to graduate school, and you can also be an applicant.

This post was edited by Yakovlev - 12/18/2009 08: 08
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18.12.2009 7:09, Macroglossum

Well, thank God, at least in medicine it is impossible... And the K-thread beetles will survive

18.12.2009 8:15, Yakovlev

There are many such examples in entomology. The fact is that interest in entomology often occurs from early childhood, and there is no possibility of entering a particular university.
I know candidates and doctors of biological sciences who were not biologists by basic education-chemists, engineers, doctors.
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18.12.2009 8:57, Macroglossum

After medvuz lomanuzza, entomology is much easier than after MISIS.
After all, many employees of inst. Marcinovsky, having a basic med. education, work within the framework of Prof. entomology.
And then.... Well, nafika children's hobby to confirm a diploma of higher education and even defend themselves... What do we have in the country of amateurs transferred chtoli?

18.12.2009 11:54, гундоров

Entomologist.And the soul is drawn to It-sings.Above all.Working as an entomologist is official-UNIVERSITIES,MUSEUMS in Russia where this hobby(taxonomy, expeditions) is poorly funded-ZIN (St. Petersburg), MSU-Moscow, Univer-Novosibirsk.How many serious entomologists do we have in all universities of the country on a salary?Entomologists-taxonomists.I graduated from agricultural institute Saratov-fac Plant protection-Department of Entomology.Do you want to?Arrive.Only beetles in a warm laboratory to deal with sit-there is no such specialty-in demand.There is no such place in our country.
Your question is sincere and impresses with its naivety.When I was young, I also searched and thought-in Saratov, there are two places related to entomology-my agricultural institute (Department of Entomology and uni-biofac-head of Anikin Vasily.Try to ask him this question-you will be interested in what Vasily will answer.

18.12.2009 17:01, Yakovlev

I will tell anyone-if you want to be an entomologist, become one.
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18.12.2009 17:08, vasiliy-feoktistov

I will tell anyone-if you want to be an entomologist, become one.

Right! Entomology in the first place is not the presence (absence)of no crusts, but a lifestyle beer.gifof .
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18.12.2009 17:20, Yakovlev

The mass of highly qualified taxonomists are people who do not have a degree and biol. educational institutions.
But biological education is very important. I often lack this academic knowledge. Now I have reached the stage of preparing my doctoral program, but here I am... Oh, how I need this knowledge. Reading. Study. What to do...
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18.12.2009 20:32, Black Coleopter

What do we have in the country of amateurs transferred chtoli?

Do not confuse the dilettante and the amateur. These are slightly different concepts.

18.12.2009 20:35, Black Coleopter

Yes, this is all nonsense!!! Even the best university is not able to teach coleopterology. Coleopterology is a state of mind, sometimes even inflamed.
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18.12.2009 22:16, AlexandrB

Everyone can enter the Kuban State Agrarian University (Krasnodar). We have a very good department of entomology. A. S. Zamotailov (a very good specialist on Carabidae) works here. We have access to many entomologists from other organizations in Krasnodar - V. I. Shchurov (perhaps the best butterfly specialist in the region), A. I. Mroshnikov (Cerambicidae), N. V. Okhrimenko (Chrysomelidae), etc. And in connection with the conditions of the region, entomologists are quite in demand. For example, I work at the Forest Protection Center after graduation. If you need more information, please write to your personal account.

For Ripper: almost any research institute related to entomology or university with such a department has the opportunity to study in graduate school (regardless of the previously acquired specialty).

18.12.2009 22:48, гундоров

Krasnodar Agrarian University is a cool and serious place-and the people there are smart-knowledgeable-they put their heart and soul into coleopterology.I personally know people and recommend them.Zamotailov and Miroshnikov.Both are Alexandras. Message to Alexander:Sash, did you get my parcel with the article's prints?I sent it to the mailing address for the article.Reply in PM butterfly-gundorov@yandex.ru Have you read the outline of my book on ice ages?Your comments before publishing are important! A lot of new literature-you need to make links.

18.12.2009 23:32, Macroglossum

The mass of highly qualified taxonomists are people who do not have a degree and biol. educational institutions.
But biological education is very important. I often lack this academic knowledge. Now I have reached the stage of preparing my doctoral program, but here I am... Oh, how I need this knowledge. Reading. Study. What to do...

What your DNKaki said at the time Timofeef-Ressovsky....A biologist without the brains of a zoologist...so-so gosdarstvenny bread eatssmile.gif

22.12.2009 0:08, AlexandrB

Message to Alexander:Sash, did you get my parcel with the article's prints?I sent it to the mailing address for the article.Reply in PM butterfly-gundorov@yandex.ru Have you read the outline of my book on ice ages?Your comments before publishing are important! A lot of new literature-you need to make links.


Sorry, you're a bit confused. I am a graduate student of Alexander Sergeevich eek.gif

25.12.2009 18:07, Avatar

Thank you all very much for the information provided.
I'll sort it out. If you have any specific questions, I will write in PM =)

And so I want to go to the Department of Entomology at Moscow State University to find out what is there and how.
In St. Petersburg you need to go ZIN must visit.
Let's see if I can get a job somewhere in the regions =)

25.12.2009 18:12, Dmitrii Musolin

In St. Petersburg I can help you visit the departments at the University and the Forestry academy

25.12.2009 18:23, Avatar

Thank you Dmitry! I'll write to you as soon as I get ready .

28.01.2010 9:52, олег09

people tell me please, where is it better to enter entomology?????they say that the National University named after T. Shevchenko........

28.01.2010 15:11, Bad Den

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