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Let's save the Prioksko-Terrasny Nature Reserve!

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Melittia, 10.11.2011 15:51

The current director of the Prioksko-Terrasny State Natural Biosphere Reserve, Mr. A. I. Ivonin, destroys not only the organizational structure of the reserve, but also illegally transfers the protected area of the reserve in the area of der. Meadows for suburban construction. Employees of the reserve got tired of the director's actions and sent an open letter to the Minister Trutnev Yu. P.
I attach a copy of the letter. Please, everyone who cares about this priceless corner of nature near Moscow, spread it as widely as possible on the Internet, as well as in the print media!
Let's save the PTZ!

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10.11.2011 16:04, vasiliy-feoktistov

I can create topics on several forums (far from entomology, but my topics on insects are there). Just think about what kind of sauce to serve it with: I think I'll do it for sure.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 10.11.2011 16: 04
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10.11.2011 16:14, AGG

It's just XXXX!!!!!!!! I sent it to everyone I could!
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10.11.2011 16:22, Алексей Сажнев

I distributed it in my Contact group, as well as on my own page (with the attached letter).
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10.11.2011 16:24, rhopalocera.com

I think it's better this way. In addition, placed on my site, a direct link to access from there:

http://www.rhopalocera.com/SOS_Prioksko-Te...-Zapovednik.pdf

You can link directly to a direct link. This is more convenient.
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10.11.2011 16:26, AGG

Unsubscribed in Pushcheno, from there a good view of the PTZ, maybe they will help you...
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10.11.2011 16:50, AGG

offtop
to the stake the Russian people will tolerate it? in any civilized (and not particularly) country, for such a thing, not only will they cut off their hands, but they will shoot them on a stake with their ass or on the square! but in our "medveputia" this is possible. when the "grandmas" decide everything. an immodest question-who went to the polls last time? did you vote for the EP? more than sure-90% - did not go, and the rest did not vote for the EP! I'm going to get a pitchfork! I also have a sharpened braid-come in and share it.
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10.11.2011 16:57, vasiliy-feoktistov

Guys, I apologize, but I haven't written anything yet (now I'm corny drunk, and such things are not done when I'm drunk): I'll mol.giftake care of everyone tomorrow: maybe contact us directly here is it worth it? Really: if you send a call message there? After all, it should be interesting (especially before the elections)? wink.gif

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 10.11.2011 17: 08

10.11.2011 17:20, Pavel Morozov

the raiders have already taken over the reserves.
Pancake. can't. it hurt.
When will the greed of such people come to an end?!
Don't they realize that they won't be taking anything with them, two nickels at best?
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10.11.2011 17:28, AGG

Guys, I apologize, but I haven't written anything yet (now I'm corny drunk, and such things are not done when I'm drunk): I'll mol.giftake care of everyone tomorrow: maybe contact us directly here is it worth it? Really: if you send a call message there? After all, it should be interesting (especially before the elections)? wink.gif

"there" was already written a few years ago about the cellulose and paper mill on Lake Baikal, when "our beloved GDP" gave it to a friend and launched it again. several thousand signatures from all over the world did not help weep.gif

10.11.2011 17:29, vasiliy-feoktistov

question: who went to the polls last time? did you vote for the EP? more than sure-90% - did not go, and the rest did not vote for the EP! I'm going to get a pitchfork! I also have a sharpened braid-come in and share it.

I didn't go and I won't go to the current ones! My vote does not decide absolutely anything, and there is no one to vote for (all the others are "ducks for the quorum"). Enough........ we need to do it ourselves!!!!!

10.11.2011 18:03, vasiliy-feoktistov

Example: Rockwool enterprise in Ghana.
Rockwool (Mineral Wool CJSC in the world). The deputies responded well.

10.11.2011 18:26, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

I didn't go and I won't go to the current ones!


In vain. After all, this is exactly what is expected of us. We won't go, but they will bring in those who will vote properly.

I liked the comparison (I don't remember who the author is) - voting is like buying a laptop, so what exactly I need does not exist in nature, therefore, you need to compromise.

This post was edited by Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg - 10.11.2011 18: 28

10.11.2011 18:36, vasiliy-feoktistov

In vain. After all, this is exactly what is expected of us. We won't go, but they will bring in those who will vote properly.

I liked the comparison (I don't remember who the author is) - voting is like buying a laptop, so what exactly I need does not exist in nature, therefore, you need to compromise.

And as a result: it won't change anything (believe me).
However, the topic is not about that!

10.11.2011 19:00, Pavel Morozov

Come on, no politics, eh?

belonging to the party has nothing to do with it. It's about the situation.

I thought something about Red Books, prohibitions, relations of ordinary people and other bullshit: AND THESE PEOPLE FORBID CATCHING INSECTS!!!! wall.gif

This post was edited by Morozzz - 10.11.2011 19: 05
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10.11.2011 22:13, Black Coleopter

And why are they surprised here?.. In Mozhaisk district, cottages are being built on the Borodino field... The expanse is open, nothing sacred.

10.11.2011 22:20, AGG

I would like to, but it does not work frown.gifout we are cornered, trampled, robbed and sold. and we are "without politics". let's be a flock of sheep-to the pasture-all right, to the slaughterhouse-all the same run! Today, international pundits have recognized the black nosog as extinct!, and there are a couple of hundred mountain gorillas left. our children won't even see these animals in pictures. For more than 10 years, our region has been struggling to create protected areas on the territory of the old forest (where aspens are centuries-old, and oaks are 300-500 years old). fuck it! but, now it was taken on an indefinite lease by a local comers. no politics-just money! WTO? visa-free travel with the EU? about what!? as we were a country of the 3rd world, so we remain. I sometimes feel bad that I live here. raw material appendage. now sell-drink, children in England and the grass does not grow. does it depend on us=citizens? yes, we are garbage and it's up to us and to some kind of nature no one has
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10.11.2011 23:18, Black Coleopter

A paradox, of course. But in other less developed countries, you can't even fart in their national parks. There are many examples of this, in the form of arrests of our compatriots and not only.

10.11.2011 23:23, Zhuk

Nature reserve, nature reserve...there is no reserve anymore. There is a bison kennel

10.11.2011 23:25, Zhuk

one name for the overlap remains

11.11.2011 14:15, vasiliy-feoktistov

I hope the people will excuse me, but the country should know its heroes (taken from a letter published on the PTZ website). On the website Greenpease already posted: respect to that person beer.gif
Well, I threw it in a couple of places: people are pumping.
The hero of the occasion:

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11.11.2011 19:39, Melittia

I am adding a signed letter to the President of the Russian Federation! The text is identical to the previous one

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11.11.2011 19:49, vasiliy-feoktistov

I am adding a signed letter to the President of the Russian Federation! The text is identical to the previous one

Do you need to post this somewhere else or just for reference?

11.11.2011 20:29, Melittia

Do you need to post this somewhere else or just for reference?


You should post wherever possible!
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11.11.2011 20:46, Frantic

Try contacting the editorial office www.gazeta.ru

The resource is very solid, and publishing there can be a real return.
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12.11.2011 4:31, Melittia

I have just sent this to Dmitry Medvedev:
Dear Dmitry Anatolyevich, please pay attention to the state of affairs in the only Biosphere Reserve in the Moscow region(Prioksko-Terrasny Nature and Biosphere Reserve). Employees of the reserve, as well as biologists of other organizations, such as the A. N. Severtsov Institute of Ecology and Ecology of the Russian Academy of Sciences, express serious concern about the conservation of the territory, as well as the functional structure of the reserve, in connection with the illegal activities of the director A. I. Ivonin, who was recently appointed by higher authorities. I enclose an open letter with the signatures of 22 employees of the Reserve in the form of a pdf file. Sincerely, Senior Researcher, Severtsov Institute of Ecology and Evolution of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Doctor of Biological Sciences Oleg Grigoryevich Gorbunov

12.11.2011 4:34, Melittia

Or is it necessary only to talk about everything in a personal conversation?

12.11.2011 6:21, vasiliy-feoktistov

12.11.2011 8:11, Anser

We need to appoint Russian directors!!!And on the face of this "hero" everything is written...

12.11.2011 9:01, vasiliy-feoktistov

We need to appoint Russian directors!!!And on the face of this "hero" everything is written...

Yes, he is an "Afghan", they say a retired soldier.
Read it Questioner: also interesting.
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13.11.2011 0:18, Pavel Morozov

And the hero is well-groomed, well-fed.
Happy like this.

18.11.2011 19:11, Melittia

I would like to remind you that I sent a letter to Dmitry Medvedev on November 12. Today I received a reply, which I enclose here. It works!

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18.11.2011 19:58, Bad Den

Melittia, you're doing great!
The main thing now is not to weaken the pressure. The state machine is very clumsy, and it takes a lot of effort to spin it up. But once turned, it will gain momentum and it will be very difficult to stop it.
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22.11.2011 1:30, Melittia

Friends, it seemed to me that the letter sent to me in response to my request is a simple unsubscribe in the spirit of Developed Socialism.
I will try to correct my doubts by sending the following email to the same address.

Dear Dmitry Anatolyevich, Many thanks for sending my " appeal to state and local self-government bodies for consideration to the Prosecutor's Office of the Moscow Region, the Federal Service for State Registration, Cadastre and Cartography and the Ministry of Natural Resources and Ecology of the Russian Federation in accordance with the competence to resolve the issues raised in it (Part 3 of Article 8 of the Federal Law of May 2 Federal Law No. 59-FZ of 2006 "On the Procedure for considering Appeals from Citizens of the Russian Federation")."This is a quote from the response letter No. A26-11-696853 dated November 15, 2011 from the organization designated on the form as" ADMINISTRATION OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION FOR WORK WITH CITIZENS 'AND ORGANIZATIONS 'APPEALS".
I'm sorry, but I think this answer is a simple official reply, which has been practiced in our country since the 20s of the last century. If you don't find it annoying, please send copies of the "requests" you sent to the organizations mentioned above, as well as inform us about the methodology for monitoring their implementation.
Sincerely, O. G. Gorbunov, Senior Researcher, Doctor of Biological Sciences
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22.11.2011 13:26, vasiliy-feoktistov

To be honest, it also seemed like an unsubscribe to me. Maybe a whole staff or even worse ,a "robot" sits there and writes clear unsubscriptions confused.gifto calm everyone down.
Oleg, if necessary, I will be happy to subscribe to such an appeal:" they need to beat their brains out".
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22.11.2011 14:12, Melittia

Yesterday I also sent this open letter with signatures to Vladimir Putin via his website. Let him read it!
I think that it is necessary to "hammer on the brains"! It would be very correct if everyone for whom the PTZ is not an empty phrase sent this open letter (pdf hangs above) to both the president and the prime Minister. This is easy to do through their websites. We must help the Reserve!!
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22.11.2011 15:08, vasiliy-feoktistov

More UNESCO there is. And they simply have to reckon with this organization. The reserve is part of the World Network of Biosphere Reserves.

22.11.2011 15:41, Victor Titov

I would like to remind you that I sent a letter to Dmitry Medvedev on November 12. Today I received a reply, which I enclose here. It works!

Ah, blessed is he who believes... It doesn't work at all! wall.gif And Vaska listens and eats!
What, in fact, is your natural reaction to official rudeness, covered up like a fig leaf, "Part 3 of Article 8 of Federal Law No. 59-FZ of May 2, 2006 "On the Procedure for Considering Appeals from Citizens of the Russian Federation":
  
Dear Dmitry Anatolyevich ... please send copies of the "appeals" you sent to the above-mentioned organizations, as well as inform us about the methodology for monitoring their implementation.
Sincerely, O. G. Gorbunov, Senior Researcher, Doctor of Biological Sciences

Actually, the request to send you copies of the "appeals" sent by the Department of written appeals of citizens and organizations to the "above-mentioned organizations" seems superfluous. These are 100% copies of your address sent to the president and, of course, unread by him. I don't think that the authorities "competent" to consider your appeal have sent something else. And if not, then who prevents you from sending you in response to your repeated request the option that will relatively calm you down (for a while). It would be more correct to ask them to send you not copies of "appeals", but copies of cover letters, with which the Prosecutor's Office of the Moscow region, the Federal Service for State Registration, Cadastre and Cartography and the Ministry of Natural Resources and Ecology of the Russian Federation Department of Written appeals of citizens and organizations sent copies of your appeals to the President. However, I am 100% sure that their content is identical: "I am sending it to you for consideration on the merits and preparation of a response to the applicant... the app is on ... sheets" - or something similar in meaning and indifference. The system of functioning of EDRA is based on this: in full compliance with the procedure for considering citizens 'appeals, which is also established by them, your cry of the soul will wander through the "competent" authorities that are authorized to "resolve the issues you put", you will receive several more unsubscriptions, which you will receive again in strict accordance with the Federal Law of May 2 2006. appeal to higher authorities, at this time the cat Vaska will eat quietly, i.e. finish his case. It's disgusting. God help me if I'm wrong this time.
Nothing changes: even the unforgettable Nekrasov wrote-remember: "When the master comes, the master will judge us... http://ilibrary.ru/text/1253/p.1/index.html
And more: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQp7MOCJ7-U Look. Funny. Only sad...

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 22.11.2011 16: 00
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22.11.2011 23:04, Bad Den

Ah, blessed is he who believes... It doesn't work at all! wall.gif And Vaska listens and eats!
What, in fact, is your natural reaction to official rudeness, covered up like a fig leaf, "Part 3 of Article 8 of Federal Law No. 59-FZ of May 2, 2006 "On the Procedure for Considering Appeals from Citizens of the Russian Federation"

So it seems that citizens ' appeals should be sent under their jurisdiction?
By the way, you shouldn't have said that, Viktor - the state authorities react very vividly to "instructions from above" (I know from my own experience).

22.11.2011 23:30, mikee

During the pre-election period, the current authorities react very vividly to such questions, if they are promoted by political opponents. This means that it is necessary to write to Zhirinovsky-Zyuganov-Mironov-Yavlinsky to promote the topic in the election campaign...
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