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Yakovlev, 23.07.2012 11:53

Dear colleagues

I received the material-guess where it came from. You don't need the gipies data

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23.07.2012 12:11, Seneka

Biotope-pine forest with dead wood and clearings in the sand.
Region - Rostov, South of the Voronezh region, Volgograd, Saratov region.

This post was edited by Seneka - 23.07.2012 12: 35

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23.07.2012 12:18, Egorus

According to neonymfa, still Volgograd. (from evk)

23.07.2012 12:22, Yakovlev

Thank you for your feedback. This puzzle will last for a couple of days - then I will give the correct answer

23.07.2012 14:53, Penzyak

I agree with the pine forest on the sands, but the point is from the Orenburg region (like Gubernia) or slightly to the east.

.. I was interested in a small type of praying mantis... this is not the one that was found in Russia recently?

This post was edited by Penzyak - 23.07.2012 14: 55

23.07.2012 14:59, Vlad Proklov

Northern Kazakhstan?

23.07.2012 15:02, Bad Den

South of the European part of the former USSR, but the points or even regions are different
-the mattress with beetles is collected to the north (for example, the Penza region) than the second mattress with praying mantises (Saratov-Volgograd)

23.07.2012 15:22, botanque

Judging by the blediuses and heteroceruses on several mattresses, they are still collected next to each other. Probably near a river with a sandy shore and old trees. And the region, I think, is the Lower Volga region or slightly to the east.

23.07.2012 15:45, Bad Den

Probably near a river with a sandy shore and old trees.

As an option - to the light

This post was edited by Bad Den - 23.07.2012 15: 51

23.07.2012 15:57, Ogor

North, North-east Kazakhstan

23.07.2012 16:10, Yakovlev

Denis, point one. Fees for svet

23.07.2012 16:21, Bad Den

Denis, point one. Fees for the light

And it seems, having limited myself to the European part, I got too excited...

23.07.2012 16:28, GlebSinon

The European part, from SV Kazakhstan to Samara and Saratov, pine-cuttings, dry wood, sandy soils.

23.07.2012 16:31, Bad Den

NE Kazakhstan is no longer a deeply European part

23.07.2012 16:39, Yakovlev

for a thousand and a half kilometers. everyone speaks correctly with biotope. 50% have already solved it!!!

23.07.2012 16:39, GlebSinon

My blunder was referring to the border area...

23.07.2012 16:43, Yakovlev

My friend Pyotr Ustyuzhanin told me how at an entomological congress one guy from St. Petersburg was wildly happy to learn that he comes from Novosibirsk and happily asked Peter to deliver a parcel to Khabarovsk. This is very close - Siberia-he motivated. And the fact that only from Blagoveshchensk to Vladivostok by steam locomotive one and a half days to cut - ... Raseya from the Volga to the Yenisei...

23.07.2012 16:53, GlebSinon

Or from Dnipro to Tigil

23.07.2012 17:04, Dracus

I can only judge by the mantises. The first idea is the Novosibirsk region, the second-the north of Kazakhstan.
(By the way, small praying mantises - Iris polystictica, the material is very interesting to me

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23.07.2012 18:19, Alexandr Zhakov

The coast of the Sea of Azov, to be more precise, Donetsk, Rostov, region. Krasnodarskiy kray. In the Crimea and Kherson, there would be a medusa among the praying mantises. Giant ant lion, I don't know if there is one in Asia. in the Azov Sea region, there is definitely one.

23.07.2012 19:14, Геннадий Шембергер

The coast of the Sea of Azov, to be more precise, Donetsk, Rostov, region. Krasnodarskiy kray. In the Crimea and Kherson, there would be a medusa among the praying mantises. Giant ant lion, I don't know if there is one in Asia. in the Azov Sea region, there is definitely one.

Empusa fasciata is also found here.In the Red Data Book of the USSR, it was mistakenly indicated that it is endemic to the Crimea.

23.07.2012 22:19, Egorus

Acanthaclisis occitanica - Volgograd, Astrakhan Akhtuba and Dosang... (and Taman)

23.07.2012 22:39, rhopalocera.com

I also think that dosang.

23.07.2012 22:52, Pavel Morozov

or maybe the Southern Urals?

23.07.2012 23:11, Egorus

... well, Konung on the bait, could catch a lot of neonyms...

24.07.2012 9:30, Seneka

I also think that dosang.

Where are the pine forests in Dosang?
If not for mantises with lions, then the Moscow region would have come down.

24.07.2012 9:58, Seneka

I can only judge by the mantises. The first idea is the Novosibirsk region, the second-the north of Kazakhstan.
(By the way, small praying mantises - Iris polystictica, the material is very interesting to me

And where in the Novosibirsk region can there be points with such praying mantises?
And I haven't met him in the Altai. I don't know about SV Kazakhstan, I haven't really been there, I remember the steppes, I can't believe it's so chic there.

This post was edited by Seneka - 24.07.2012 10: 04

24.07.2012 10:19, botanque

If not for the praying mantises with lions, the Moscow region would have come down.

And not Calomera littoralis, or Heterocerus parallelus, or Anatolica...

24.07.2012 14:18, Stas Shinkarenko

C. sahlbergi, which lives in the Lower Volga region, has noticeably wider bandages, and our C. maritima is almost indistinguishable from C. sahlbergi. Is it C. silvatica or some other species that is not listed for the Lower Volga region?

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24.07.2012 19:41, Bad Den

C. sahlbergi, which lives in the Lower Volga region, has noticeably wider bandages, and our C. maritima is almost indistinguishable from C. sahlbergi. Is it C. silvatica or some other species that is not listed for the Lower Volga region?

it is C. sylvatica that is

24.07.2012 21:35, Dracus

And where in the Novosibirsk region can there be points with such praying mantises?

In the Karasuksky district, there is both musa and polystictica. But, in fact, there are still no points with such an abundance, so I thought about it and dismissed this idea. In any case, it's somewhere beyond the Urals-you can tell by the appearance of religion.

25.07.2012 21:11, Yakovlev

Dear colleagues!
The closest were Dracus, Ogor and Kotbegemot. It was 10 km from the border of Kazakhstan in the Altai Territory in the Mikhailovsky district. Why did I ask the problem, because if they showed me such mattresses, I wouldn't have guessed it. In short, everyone to study Kulundy

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29.07.2012 6:38, Yakovlev

And colleagues believe that Bey-Bienko was wrong
http://www.biosoil.ru/fee/2012/N-246/N-246.pdf
Naive people!!!

29.07.2012 10:17, GlebSinon

And what are the little beetles above and below sylvatica? I have the same view from Barnaul.

29.07.2012 10:40, AGG

amara or harpalus

29.07.2012 11:51, GlebSinon

If possible, I would like to know the specific view...

29.07.2012 12:30, Liparus

Dear colleagues

I received the material-guess where it came from. You don't need the gipies data

This is definitely not Krym

12.08.2012 7:35, fayst79

and also on kulunda fishing klassnaya

12.08.2012 7:44, Svyatoslav Knyazev

can I guess the importer's last name? ))

27.08.2012 14:09, svm2

Here they sent a photo of the result of three nights last week and asked to put it up for determining the region, if anyone is interested.

PS-with whom you shared the information, please do not worry.