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What insects have neoteny?

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Hierophis, 26.12.2012 23:44

The question is, so to speak, on the backfill wink.gif
I was interested in the number of groups/species of insects with neoteny, they write something similar everywhere on the Internet - neoteny, except for the well-known example with amphibians, occurs in crustaceans and insects.
And what kind of insects??

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27.12.2012 0:01, Victor Titov

The question is, so to speak, on the backfill wink.gif
I was interested in the number of groups/species of insects with neoteny, they write something similar everywhere on the Internet - neoteny, except for the well-known example with amphibians, occurs in crustaceans and insects.
And what kind of insects??

This is an interesting question, of course... Read about aphids, coccidae...

27.12.2012 9:01, Dmitry Vlasov

Some tropical woodworms (from bark beetles) have neotenic males...

27.12.2012 9:28, Molobratia

Read about the phenomenon of pedogenesis, which was discovered in diptera.

27.12.2012 11:25, Victor Titov

http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedogenesis
http://biology-dictionary.info/Биологическ.../4172/Pedogenesis

27.12.2012 12:31, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

General work-Iordansky N. N. 2005. Pedomorphosis, neoteny and evolution. Zoological Journal, 84(10): 1176-1187.
I also recommend the relevant sections in the same author's textbooks on the theory of evolution (available online).

NB. There, "multibookaf" and generally reading "ilita" will not lead to good.

27.12.2012 21:54, Hierophis

The point is that we discussed here such a moment-
"neoteny, as a way to get away from high specialization, and continue to evolve." I was interested in the spread of neoteny with the presence of non-periodic, sometimes almost lost metamorphoses to the adult individual.

There is a difference between progenesis and neoteny
http://evolution.powernet.ru/library/grant/g33.html

That is, I need to clarify the question - I am interested in cases of neoteny. Progenesis as part of the life cycle is already a bit different. And especially pedogenesis is not suitable.

So is there a living creature among insects with neoteny, as in the Grant?

27.12.2012 22:06, Hierophis

Ilita??
I have already written more than once what ilita is in my understanding - relative to the scientific environment, it is a certain stratum that has gained access to stable material resources, and as a result has lost(or even initially did not have) motivation to learn.
Ilita is engaged precisely in the production of beeches, and pages made up of them for reporting, the novelty for ilita is supplied by graduate students and students who have not yet figured out that while Ilita is alive, they will give birth at least to a law weighing as much as Mendelev or a theory weighing as much as Darwin - they will surely be "dibils" who, at best, after many years of humiliation, they will absorb the ility doctrine and become representatives of the scientific elite themselves.
In between the arduous and routine process of structuring and publicizing great knowledge, Ilita travels to Thailand, Turkey and Vietnam exclusively for highly scientific purposes.
There is an opinion that ility is now "there" at least 95%.

Thus, the representative of the scientific ilita can be compared to some singer with a frightening surname, she has long been singing only under plywood, but the place is occupied and young people drive.

Really on this Forum there are such???? Is the author of the proposed work also "ilita"??? What a nightmare.. )))))))
Well, it remains only to recall that someone's utterance that they say, no matter how vile a certain knowledge was introduced into public circulation, it should be used wink.gif

27.12.2012 23:27, Pirx

It's even scary to write about pedogenesis! I'm afraid they will be charged for ilitarity lol.gif

28.12.2012 0:00, Hierophis

Heh, what earlier, then not "there" wink.gifIt's you, "there", among the associate professors with candidates, probably if you mention pedogenesis, then everyone will start looking askance, here people like ordinary, understand what it's about )))

By the way, Wikipedia has an intersex note on this topic, I didn't know)
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromalthus_debilis

But for some reason, all this is always with elements of parthenogenesis, here in coccids it is more interesting, but there it is part of the life cycle with an obligatory adult male. Something similar can be thought of on wingless moths, and on many flightless female butterflies, they clearly have an extra pupal stage smile.gif

So far, there is not a single example of pure neoteny, it turns out. But this is also quite difficult to detect, larvae that reproduce sexually and live for a long time without adult forms....
I'll also read the suggested link, and when I get it, I'll write down what I read.

28.12.2012 0:39, Pirx

Heh, what earlier, then not "there" wink.gifIt's you, "there", among the associate professors with candidates, probably if you mention pedogenesis, then everyone will start looking askance, here people like ordinary, understand what it's about )))

By the way, Wikipedia has an intersex note on this topic, I didn't know)
http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micromalthus_debilis

But for some reason, all this is always with elements of parthenogenesis, here in coccids it is more interesting, but there it is part of the life cycle with an obligatory adult male. Something similar can be thought of on wingless moths, and on many flightless female butterflies, they clearly have an extra pupal stage smile.gif

So far, there is not a single example of pure neoteny, it turns out. But this is also quite difficult to detect, larvae that reproduce sexually and live for a long time without adult forms....
I'll also read the suggested link, and when I get it, I'll write down what I read.


Heh, Roman, well, understand further lol.gifthen you will understand what I wink.gifmean

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