Project of the new Red Data Book of the Russian Federation. Hymenoptera

I am very surprised that the butterflies and beetles are discussing the new project of the CC RF volume Animals in full, and the respected meeting ignores the CC types of perepons at all... why is that??? AS long as the CC RF will continue to protect the banal ...

Don't worry so much!
Obviously, you just don't know why these notorious Red Books are published at all. Well, yes, ideally, in order to have a legislative framework for creating so-called "micro-orders" and "micro-orders". But can you or someone else name such specially created territories?
In reality, the situation is different. Officials, not being experts, easily succumb to science-like appeals about "preserving biodiversity" and unfasten certain amounts to create all sorts of lists and regional "red books". This has absolutely nothing to do with science, but you can shake a beautifully published volume in front of a higher official and get more additional amounts... This is a kind of business, a feeder created from the state budget.
So never mind. Still, there will be those who want to stick to this feeder and release another "red book", including everything that is possible and without any serious reasons ...

.. well, what can I say - if I were interested in feeders and money... I would probably be on a different forum. It is a pity that there was no mutual understanding. It is with this attitude that we have - what we have.

You should at least sometimes read that in the world something is happening around us with bees:
http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D0%BA%D0...lid=50368&lr=49

Soon the Chinese will be invited to work with us as bees-since they already have a wealth of experience:

Here you are and our examples:
http://naceka-online.ru/stati/paseka-den-z...rez-30-let.html

So go ahead for grants, gentlemen scientists-while there is still something to study on bees.

.. well, what can I say - if I were interested in feeders and money... I would probably be on a different forum. It is a pity that there was no mutual understanding. It is with this attitude that we have - what we have.

But in the Ukrainian Red Book 77 species of hymenoptera _))). You also need to know the measure...

PS. The Armenian bumblebee is quite deservedly listed, and the xylocope is for schoolchildren, when they are told about the species listed in the CC, they should know at least one species that they saw with their own eyes.
There are really not enough indicator species of territories under "micro-orders" , etc., primarily steppe stenotopes (such as wasps of the genus Onychopterocheilus).

.. well, what can I say - if I were interested in feeders and money... I would probably be on a different forum. It is a pity that there was no mutual understanding. It is with this attitude that we have - what we have.

You should at least sometimes read that in the world something is happening around us with bees:
http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D0%BA%D0...lid=50368&lr=49

Soon the Chinese will be invited to work with us as bees-since they already have a wealth of experience:

Here you are and our examples:
http://naceka-online.ru/stati/paseka-den-z...rez-30-let.html

So go ahead for grants, gentlemen scientists-while there is still something to study on bees.

And here beekeeping, when it comes to the Red Book, that is, about what types of peonies (the same bees, but not Apis mellifera) should be given an official protected status, so that later on, based on their presence on certain, especially valuable (that is, all natural, not transformed and minimally transformed anthropogenic) how could environmental activists, rather than specialists, justify to officials the expediency of creating human waste fragments?

You probably live at a considerable distance from the Russian Federation and do not have any information at all, for example, concerning the Middle Volga region regarding perepons. With the appearance of various tenants of agricultural land (Germans, French, English and Chinese...) The use of pesticides banned in Europe for the cultivation of land and crops has become commonplace... There were cases of mass death of bees in the Belinsky and Kamensky districts (the regional government is trying in every possible way to silence these cases or write off everything on the vorotoz and inexperience of beekeepers...). Even birds and wild animals are dying, people were poisoned... And who will count or celebrate the death of wild bees?.. The naivety of some demagogues simply kills...

"Bees are dying out in the Penza region"
- The main topic of the meeting of Penza beekeepers was the mass death of bees. Even experienced craftsmen suffer losses. "In August, the bees began to disappear in whole families, as a result of which the hives were emptied," said beekeeper Alexander Barashkin (Pazelki village).

"Out of 300 beekeepers, one in two complained to me that they had lost their bees. It turned out that there is a disintegration of bee colonies. As you know, when insects are going to die, they always fly away from the hive. By this winter, the beehives were almost completely empty, " explained Yuri Kabanov, Deputy chairman of the regional Society of beekeepers.

Yuri Kabanov believes that a significant role was played by the low professional level of some beekeepers, they should improve their skills. The organization of training courses depends on the desire of the beekeepers themselves. The Ministry of Agriculture of the region is ready to meet us halfway, because this industry is necessary for our region.

"Beekeepers are supported at the level of co-financing of credit rates, cash grants and even leasing operations," said Vladimir Volkov, the Minister of Agriculture of the region.

Beekeepers, as a rule, begin to meet in winter, after the end of work in the apiary. Then they outline common problems that will have to be solved after the new year. "
etc.

http://yandex.ru/yandsearch?text=%D0%B3%D0...lid=50368&lr=49

And how to prove the decline in the number of wild bees? If you start to conduct special surveys (mowing, Merike traps), then where can I get comparative information for the past years? In addition, the number of bee species varies greatly due to natural causes, so to identify a reliable decrease in it, you need to work for more than one decade.
Therefore, the most effective way to solve the problem would be not to study the number of bees (by the way, is there anyone who can do this?), but to ban such drugs.
By the way, if the number of honey bees decreases, then it is only beneficial for wild bees.
And the Red List should include stenotope species, indicators of biodiversity, whose habitat area is declining due to anthropogenic causes.

We have been working on tight correspondence in the Penza region (Russia) since 2004. We've collected a lot of material. We don't use Malez and Merike traps on principle - why would you foolishly destroy so many insects!?? All manually and in various ways: http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=428180&hl=
There are publications.

melifera in the CC is strong and "vorotoz" is not weaker than

And about clothianidine (Apache):
Colorado beekeepers recently received a leaked revealing document that the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) knows that popular pesticides used to increase crop yields are killing bees. Despite the position of their own scientists, EPA officials first became concerned about the safety of the toxic pesticide clothianidine (Bayer) in 1993. But now it has been revealed that the EPA knew all about the dangers of clothianidine and decided to simply ignore the situation.

By now, most people know that bees are dying out in incredibly large numbers. Colony death (CCD) is a condition in which bees cannot find the hive and never find their way back. Previous studies have identified various environmental toxins as primary causes, including toxic pesticides.

And the leaked document, which was written by the EPA's Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention, explains that concerns have reached the maximum limit and that toxicity studies for honeybees show that clothianidin is highly toxic. The letter was written in response to a request from Bayer about the possibility of approving extensions to use clothianidin for cotton and mustard in addition to existing crops.

So if clothianidine poses a significant threat to honeybees, and the EPA has known about it all along, why was all of "it" approved immediately? And if Bayer conducted its own safety studies, why do they contradict, why didn't the EPA pursue Bayer for falsifying safety data? Apparently, those who make final decisions on environmental protection do not have an interest in the truth and most likely satisfy corporate interests at the expense of public health.

Several European countries have outlawed clothianidine, including Germany, France, Italy and Slovenia. In the US, however, producers of conventional crops continue to use dangerous chemicals, sometimes without realizing it, thanks to corrupt EPA officials.

NATURALNEWS

And about clothianidine (Apache):
Colorado beekeepers recently received a leaked revealing document that the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) knows that popular pesticides used to increase crop yields are killing bees. Despite the position of their own scientists, EPA officials first became concerned about the safety of the toxic pesticide clothianidine (Bayer) in 1993. But now it has been revealed that the EPA knew all about the dangers of clothianidine and decided to simply ignore the situation.

By now, most people know that bees are dying out in incredibly large numbers. Colony death (CCD) is a condition in which bees cannot find the hive and never find their way back. Previous studies have identified various environmental toxins as primary causes, including toxic pesticides.

And the leaked document, which was written by the EPA's Office of Chemical Safety and Pollution Prevention, explains that concerns have reached the maximum limit and that toxicity studies for honeybees show that clothianidin is highly toxic. The letter was written in response to a request from Bayer about the possibility of approving extensions to use clothianidin for cotton and mustard in addition to existing crops.

So if clothianidine poses a significant threat to honeybees, and the EPA has known about it all along, why was all of "it" approved immediately? And if Bayer conducted its own safety studies, why do they contradict, why didn't the EPA pursue Bayer for falsifying safety data? Apparently, those who make final decisions on environmental protection do not have an interest in the truth and most likely satisfy corporate interests at the expense of public health.

Several European countries have outlawed clothianidine, including Germany, France, Italy and Slovenia. In the US, however, producers of conventional crops continue to use dangerous chemicals, sometimes without realizing it, thanks to corrupt EPA officials.

NATURALNEWS

I predict that the next drug that will be harmful in the United States will be any drug from Syngenta products

There is no need for e-mails in the CC at all.
Those that are now still do not protect and will not, and there is no need to do it. There is no reduction of meadows in Primorye, there is no widespread plowing, etc., everything is easier and cheaper to bring from China. Cerana, as soon as there were fewer apiaries with melifera (bee farms disappeared), bred so that it inhabits all sorts of attics and cornices in the suburbs and Vladivostok itself, families are burned out with a flamethrower of the Ministry of Emergency Situations and everyone cares that this is a red Book species.
There are a lot of rare webs in the Far East, the same zielomorphids, roproniids, proctorenixids, vanhorniids, not to mention a bunch of species from "ordinary" families known only from the type series. Collectors, unlike beetles and butterflies, do not need eardrums, a non-profit group at all, and it seems impossible to catch them without permission (although everyone catches them).
I think that in the reissued CC, almost everything will be left as it is, it is problematic to exclude species from there and hardly anyone will go for it, they will not add it either, because data is needed for this, and interested hymenoptera, as AVA correctly said, are "on the fingers of one hand"

Although for grant applications (AVA is right again!!!) the presence of e-mails in the CC is simply necessary. So, let them be, under this sauce you can get money (not that only for the Red Book species, but they add their own drop, for sure) for real scientific projects. Here just today on this occasion from GDP good news came

If we were waiting for manna from heaven in the form of grants , we would still be sitting at the" broken trough " of dense ignorance in the field of entomological research of wild bees.

For officials, you need to make a "CC for officials" with the brightest, largest and most beautiful insects, and even if they are not at all rare, the better. They can be seen perfectly, look recognizable, and live everywhere. And make the domineering hoodlums follow their own laws... You see, we'll live in a complete nature reserve.

A joke, of course, but ...

This post was edited by Seneka - 06.09.2013 16: 38