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Notodonta, 24.09.2008 20:07

This year I collected a lot of grass cocoonworms. They spread an unknown infection. It seems to me that it is transmitted not only with what is eaten, but also somehow. This summer, ALL my caterpillars often got sick and died. And it continues to this day!They refuse to eat, they get diarrhoea, and then they die and it seems to be contagious. Can anyone help the poor things? Who knows if they can be treated and how to treat them, please respond! mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif How to protect them from this disaster??! mol.gif
Thank you in advance.

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24.09.2008 20:19, Бабочник

if they do not flow from the current "behind", then this is a pindyk....nuclear polyhedrosis is called...not lechitsa never. In general, treating diseases is almost useless...it's easier to prevent it...Excellent prevention - the absence of crowding (ideally, if gus. not public-then separate cultivation in individual boxes), cleanliness and fresh food, sun baths, ventilation.
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24.09.2008 20:26, Notodonta

The public caterpillars were also sick. Of the 13 Phalera bucephala pupated, only 3. Most died after being separated. Now a raspberry cocoonworm is ill (I don't know Latin), I really want to save it, it doesn't seem to be very strong...I've been alive for a week now since my hunger strike...

24.09.2008 21:15, AntSkr

khokhlatok in general is not an easy task to breed, I have never succeeded, everyone dies for unknown reasons...

25.09.2008 8:16, Notodonta

SPAAAAA - - - A-A-ASITEEEE KOKONOPRYADAAAAAAA!!!!!! mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif mol.gif

This post was edited by Notodonta - 09/25/2008 08: 17

25.09.2008 10:44, guest: Бабочник

What's the point of shouting? engaged in breeding-be prepared....there will be plenty of them.
by the way, never give the caterpillars wet food...this causes intestinal infections, especially in some species.

25.09.2008 15:37, Notodonta

25.09.2008 16:34, guest: Бабочник

those that live on well-ventilated vegetation, as well as heliophiles, xerophiles.
For example, the swallowtail immediately begins to die from this.

27.09.2008 22:58, guest: Андрей

Many caterpillars are extremely sensitive to poor ventilation and poor quality of the food plant. In general, the activation of the virus, in particular, polyhedrosis, can provoke any stress - overheating, hypothermia, lack of food for more than an hour, changes in humidity, etc. Moreover, if the caterpillars have been kept in constant, unchanging conditions for a long time, they will almost certainly get sick if they change abruptly, and if the conditions are unstable,then the caterpillars are more stable. Sailboats, some saturnia, and various xerophilic species are usually very susceptible to this. And crested whales in general are very rarely ill. I've never had this before. Try to sterilize or replace the jiggers.
And if it is a bacterial infection, then you can try spraying plants with broad-spectrum antibiotics. Sometimes it helps.
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30.09.2008 19:08, Notodonta

About antibiotics and dishes...how and in what doses? From large doses of caterpillars, I think, and can spend money. Yes, no matter how much I washed their cages with soap, even wiped them with alcohol tincture ( there is no alcohol), the newly populated caterpillars in them quickly and much more often fell ill than in completely new ones.

30.09.2008 20:26, guest: Бабочник

I'm telling you , it's useless... throw out the sick ones, change the equipment and place the caterpillars one at a time. Maximum cleanliness and only fresh food. Well, ventilation... then maybe someone will survive the epizootic. And with antibiotics to mess around... Andrey mentioned a bacterial infection, but most often the caterpillars are mowed down by a virus.

01.10.2008 12:59, Romik

To Notodonta:

There are recommendations on some sites to spray caterpillar food with an aqueous suspension of ciprofloxacin or Cipro (aquarists often use it for fish diseases) and then feed them after the leaves dry. Try it, maybe it will help....
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16.10.2008 20:56, guest: Rattus

Even if the grass cocoonworms die, then this is really kirdyk....... apparently in the tanks there is high humidity and poor ventilation....my advice is to release the caterpillars, wash all the cans-boxes with morgantsovka and recruit new ones..... only what's the joke?..... a lot of them can die during wintering, it's better to collect them in the spring....

16.10.2008 22:42, Бабочник

yes, banks of potassium permanganate from the virus can not be washed.it's easier to get new ones.sometimes you have to change the place of cultivation for a year or two...and it happens......

18.10.2008 14:32, Мих

in my opinion, modern chemistry all bleedssmile.gif Mix some powders with vinegar and pour cans for a couple of days..who will survive like this?

18.10.2008 21:55, Pirx

If the disease is viral (polyhedrosis), it is useless to treat it. Antibiotics for viruses do not help, only harm. Another thing is if there are immunostimulants for insects. Is there one? Tads yes.

18.10.2008 22:41, Бабочник

this is all from the category of "cockroach control" when a cockroach is caught and fed a pill from which it then dies in old age... it's easier to prevent it... although sometimes a weakened culture dies even in ideal conditions.

21.10.2008 10:38, guest: Андрей

By the way, as practice shows, polyhedrosis is rarely transmitted to other caterpillars. That is, if you take a sick goose and put it in a cage with other caterpillars of the same species, but from a different culture, which are kept in different conditions, they will not get sick (I have tried this many times). In addition, latent viruses contain 100% of natural caterpillars. Therefore, only good conditions will help prevent mass death. Bacterial infections and those caused by protozoa are another matter. They are quite contagious and are also common in the culture. In the case of mass breeding, sometimes it even makes sense to sterilize the cages, as well as the butterfly eggs and forage plant.

Baculoviruses that cause polyhedrosis are said to be well suppressed by adding formaldehyde to the feed. However, when feeding a plant, it is unrealistic to use it, especially since it is very toxic.

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