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Fireflies, tropical in particular. Luciola aquatilis

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Горыныч23, 13.02.2012 19:51

Who knows if there are tropical fireflies Luciola aquatilis and Pteroptyx tener in Russia , I mean, of course, the laboratory populations that Vasily Zakharchenko writes about
http://www.tropicarium.ru/aquatilis.htm

and ZOOTAXA magazine
http://www.mapress.com/zootaxa/2007f/zt01611p062.pdf
well, here too
http://moi-tai.livejournal.com/85349.html?thread=266341

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13.02.2012 22:07, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Unfortunately, I haven't heard about culture yet.

I myself had the idea to bring something like that, but you can't bring it all!

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14.02.2012 12:50, Buzman

This is, by the way, larva

14.02.2012 20:50, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Female, adult. Strong sexual dimorphism, males are normal "beetle-like".

16.02.2012 13:29, Buzman

Polymorphism is a yes, but it has the head of a larva. In adult females, the head is different and the legs are different - "adults")

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16.02.2012 20:28, Guest

Still, it would be interesting to try to breed such large and spectacular exotic fireflies. like this Luciola aquatilis.
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Maybe we can work together to get these Thai beauties?

16.02.2012 21:55, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Polymorphism is a yes, but it has the head of a larva. In adult females, the head is different and the legs are different - "adults")


I may not be a coleopterist, but they look like our own females. On the other hand, this is an obvious paedomorphosis, so you should expect a larval likeness.

16.02.2012 22:19, Fornax13

Yes, it is quite possible that it is indeed a female. It happens in lycids, and in fireflies-I'm not sure, but it's also quite possible.

In general, how is Luciola aquatilis better than L. lusitanica (=mingrelica)? Habitually, they are similar, about the same size, also fly/glow, everything is as it should be... Only the second one you can safely dial yourself in the Krasnodar Territory.
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17.02.2012 14:44, Buzman

Still, it would be interesting to try to breed such large and spectacular exotic fireflies. like this Luciola aquatilis.


Luciola are not large at all, averaging about a centimeter in length or slightly larger

17.02.2012 14:51, Buzman

But these guys are bigger. Photos taken in Sri Lanka. And here it is clearly visible on the head and legs that this is a larva.

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17.02.2012 20:10, Горыныч23

Thank you. thanks for being enlightened. I thought that the fireflies of Taisk were much more spectacular than ours, but it turns out that they are not. And where can I read about the basics of keeping and breeding these live lanterns?

17.02.2012 20:17, Fornax13

But these guys are bigger. Photos taken in Sri Lanka. And here it is clearly visible on the head and legs that this is a larva.

The females of some Lycidae are essentially larvae capable of reproduction, and that's what I'm talking about. Unfortunately, I don't even know where to read about such things in fireflies.
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17.02.2012 21:54, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Judging by what you can quickly find on the web, the lifestyle of larvae and females is similar. The classic case of pedomorphosis is "female larviform" - so that you can't just judge by the head and legs, you need to look at the genitals.

To Fornax13: if you are interested, it should be in alcohol.

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20.02.2012 13:24, Buzman

To Fornax13 and Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg. Ah, that's how it is! I didn't know.
It's just that in our fireflies Lampyris noctiluca (Linnaeus, 1767), the female and larva are habitually similar, but the legs and head are completely different.

20.02.2012 16:43, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Does anyone work with these groups in "us", i.e. in the vast expanses of the late USSR?

I wonder what is the phylogenetic position of Lampyridae and Lycidae.

20.02.2012 16:50, Bad Den

Sergey Kazantsev, if I remember correctly
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20.02.2012 17:03, Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg

Thanks!

20.02.2012 22:34, Fornax13

Does anyone work with these groups in "us", i.e. in the vast expanses of the late USSR?

I wonder what is the phylogenetic position of Lampyridae and Lycidae.

Here on Kazantsev somehow like this... rolleyes.gif
http://www.zin.ru/ANIMALIA/COLEOPTERA/images/kazclad1.gif

Although I am now even more interested in where he identified Drilidae, confused.gifsince they look very strange in Agrypninae.

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01.03.2016 22:04, Atropos

Are Luciola lusitanica and mingrelica really the same species?

01.03.2016 22:25, Atropos

In England and Germany, some labs kept laboratory colonies of Lampyris noctiluca. In Japan - Luciola lateralis. In China-Luciola leii.

01.03.2016 22:52, ИНО

In Japan (and also in Southeast Asia, in particular, in Hong Kong), the larvae of" water fireflies", in particular Luciola cruciata, are popular in amateur aquariums, as they lead an aquatic lifestyle.

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