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The Goliath beetle.

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ДмитрийК, 07.02.2014 16:42

I bought myself a Goliath Beetle, and I've been hanging it on the wall for two months. And the other day some maggots got out of it. Who can tell me what it is, and what should I do with it=)))). Take it back to the store ? Just two years later, the larvae in the dead beetle came to life.....The box is sealed. "PS" In the store for two years, no one bought it.

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07.02.2014 17:54, Alexandr Zhakov

The tightness is broken, these are leatherworms, they will finish the beetle completely, the dust will remain, open it, etch it and seal it again. smile.gif

07.02.2014 18:30, TEMPUS

The beetle was unlucky with its owner.

07.02.2014 18:32, ДмитрийК

Thanks for the information. The question is, how could a beetle with a body length of 1.3-12 mm crawl into the box and lay eggs, in the box itself the sealing is not broken. Could the eggs have remained unchanged for two years, or could there have been a similar case of "suspended animation"? Could the room temperature affect their hatching after "suspended animation"?

07.02.2014 18:36, ДмитрийК

TEMPUS - Why is the beetle unlucky with its owner!?

07.02.2014 18:54, dim-va

the owner might not be to blame if they sold him an infected beetle.
Immediately freeze for several days at subzero temperatures. It kills leatherworms. But they will remain in the box.

07.02.2014 18:59, TEMPUS

The question is, how could a beetle with a body length of 1.3-12 mm crawl into the box and lay eggs, in the box itself the sealing is not broken. Could the eggs have remained unchanged for two years, or could there have been a similar case of "suspended animation"? Could the room temperature affect their hatching after "suspended animation"?

No, the eggs could not have been left unchanged for so long, and the skin eaters do not diapause for so long (what you mean is that insects do not call "suspended animation", but "diapause"). In leatherworms, larvae hatch after a short time after egg laying.

TEMPUS - Why is the beetle unlucky with its owner!?

Because you need to keep track of your material. And you don't follow. Personally, I, for example, kozheedy so at ease as you, do not feel. Or rather, they don't feel anything at all. Because I just don't have any. You should review your material regularly, as often as possible, and immediately process it if the slightest suspicion arises.

07.02.2014 19:24, ДмитрийК

dim-va - and at what subzero temperature should the beetle be frozen?

08.02.2014 18:06, OEV

dim-va - and at what subzero temperature should the beetle be frozen?


Let me answer that question. The lower the better, in the freezer for a couple of days and that's it, the end of them. umnik.gif

08.02.2014 21:01, ДмитрийК

OEV-frost will kill the larvae this is understandable, but those that have already pupated after defrosting the beetle, can it be that in a couple of weeks the beetles will already come out of the pupae? As I know some pupae can tolerate below -196° C.

08.02.2014 22:34, Вишняков Алексей

As I know, some pupae can tolerate below -196° C.

How did you get this knowledge? wink.gif

08.02.2014 22:54, DYNASTES

As I know, some pupae can tolerate below -196° C.


none of the known insects can withstand such temperatures,

the maximum is probably the caterpillars of Gynaephora groenlandica from Canada and Greenland, which are able to survive temperatures up to -70 °C during wintering

09.02.2014 1:24, ДмитрийК

The number of frost-resistant insects can include, for example, the swallowtail butterfly, whose pupa in the frozen state can tolerate temperatures up to -196° C. Even add cockroaches that can withstand -50 °C.

09.02.2014 1:35, Victor Titov

The number of frost-resistant insects can include, for example, the swallowtail butterfly, whose pupa in the frozen state can tolerate temperatures up to -196° C. Even add cockroaches that can withstand -50 °C.

About the swallowtail-give the source of this information. It's complete nonsense.

09.02.2014 1:45, ДмитрийК

Title: Hidden life and suspended animation. Author: Ushatinskaya R. S.

09.02.2014 20:48, Aleksandr Ermakov

First promorozit, then finish off with ethyl acetate vapors-t control in the head.
And there is nothing to be upset about, the appearance of this scenery has not suffered.

11.02.2014 22:58, DYNASTES

Title: Hidden life and suspended animation. Author: Ushatinskaya R. S.



By any chance, you didn't find the information on this site ?

http://www.vitadez.ru/katalog/abioticheski...kich-temperatur

12.02.2014 0:45, ДмитрийК

Not by chance!

12.02.2014 0:55, ДмитрийК

DYNASTES - do you think this is a lie?

12.02.2014 1:10, vafdog

OEV-frost will kill the larvae this is understandable, but those that have already pupated after defrosting the beetle, can it be that in a couple of weeks the beetles will already come out of the pupae? As I know, some pupae can tolerate below -196° C.

-196 this is already like cryopreservation, after which the pupae (as well as tissues or cells) can remain alive.

12.02.2014 15:15, Hierophis

Well, in general, if there are such tracks that can withstand -70, then what will prevent them from enduring-140?
The whole problem is that, although theoretically speaking, freezing, acting as a "time machine", stops all processes, and therefore everything can be saved, but when defrosting and defrosting, which does not occur instantly in the case of freezing and too quickly in the case of defrosting, irreparable damage to tissues by crystals, pressure drop, and other garbage can occur..
And even more so if you expose it to unsharp freezing in the freezer ... an active pupa or larva.
In order to survive, it is necessary to freeze many times at T close to abs. zero, with an increase in the content of various cryoprotectors preventing crystallization, which is exactly what happens )

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