Sale of bronzer larvae

I could use Protaetia speciosissima (a very simple and pleasant beetle to breed), but frost + mail is not a very optimistic combination. Although they overwinter in the larval phase, they are in the ground with rotting horses, so they may not be particularly frost-resistant. And at night, the earth already has a good minus, and then it gets worse. Previously it should have been.

I could use Protaetia speciosissima (a very simple and pleasant beetle to breed), but frost + mail is not a very optimistic combination. Although they overwinter in the larval phase, they are in the ground with rotting horses, so they may not be particularly frost-resistant. And at night, the earth already has a good minus, and then it gets worse. I should have done it earlier.

I'm just trying to figure out if there's any point in such searches at all. That doesn't mean I'm going to order right now. You can just exchange contacts for the future. Until warmer times.

And as for email... This month, small Protaetia of an indeterminate type went to me for 25 days (due to the mail's fault). Believe it or not, but everyone is still alive! And here, where they were going, it's already quite cool. Well, plus there is a delivery by plane. It delivers parcels within a week.

The post was edited by Crogenitor - 19.10.2023 19: 49

No, I can send it, but without any security guarantees. The only thing I can guarantee is the type of product.

We only get bombs delivered by plane here. And where is it in your country?

No, I can send it, but without any security guarantees. The only thing I can guarantee is the type of product.

We only get bombs delivered by plane here. And where is it in your country?

I apologize. I didn't immediately notice where you were writing from... I myself will be from Kaliningrad.

Perhaps imagos will be more cold-resistant? Some beetles are specially introduced into diapause in a cool place, so that in the future they give more offspring.

The post was edited by Crogenitor - 10/22/2023 12: 44

I don't know. Mine have been living at room temperature for several generations, and they don't complain about their fertility.

It is probably easier for you to order from the bourgeoisie, because they have many types of spices in their culture, including two subspecies of specialissima, one of which is red (our green ones). Or is the transfer across the border closed now?

I don't know. Mine have been living at room temperature for several generations, and they don't complain about their fertility.

It is probably easier for you to order from the bourgeoisie, because they have many types of spices in their culture, including two subspecies of specialissima, one of which is red (our green ones). Or is the transfer across the border closed now?

I wouldn't say it's easier...
Many beetle-growing sites (As far as I understand it) imply forwarding exclusively within the European Union. But okay, let's say you can find a private person sending to the CIS. But even so, the cost of such imports will be a pretty penny. Well, let's add that I'm relatively new to this whole topic, and therefore I don't have enough experience and confidence for such orders...

However, it will be nice to know if there is a loophole known to our breeders from abroad.

Continuing our original conversation. What do we end up doing with your beetles?) According to forecasts, the weather will last for another week and a half above 10 degrees. You could try to take a few test specimens. If they survive , they will survive. They won't survive... Well, I'll have a lesson.

I'm afraid the parcel will take a month to get from our ass to Kaliningrad, if at all. So it's probably not worth trying. I don't know about loopholes, before the war, all sorts of DHL quietly carried (only a legend had to be invented and disguised - they don't want to take insects, either alive or dry). And now - I don't know, I haven't been following this for a long time. In Germany and Poland, there are a lot of insect breeders, if they did not turn around completely on the basis of Russophobia, then there should be those who want to. Unless all these cross-border traffic is completely blocked.

I'm afraid the parcel will take a month to get from our ass to Kaliningrad, if at all. So it's probably not worth trying. I don't know about loopholes, before the war, all sorts of DHL quietly carried (only a legend had to be invented and disguised - they don't want to take insects, either alive or dry). And now - I don't know, I haven't been following this for a long time. In Germany and Poland, there are a lot of insect breeders, if they did not turn around completely on the basis of Russophobia, then there should be those who want to. Unless all these cross-border traffic is completely blocked.

Well, let's not torment the poor beetles in the package. Indeed, now the time is restless, the infrastructure is "naughty"... And at the same time, take care of yourself too!

For information about foreign sources, thank you! I'll poke around, search, and see.

With the help of manjurik and brevitarsis, you can order in larvae through avito. True, a person is far from keeping bronzes. It will be random, but I received more manjurik messages.

With the help of manjurik and brevitarsis, you can order in larvae through avito. True, a person is far from keeping bronzes. It will be random, but I received more mandjurik.

Who has them? I searched for it, but I didn't see anything like it... Or are these the ads that sell bronzes under the guise of May beetles?

Here: https://www.avito.ru/luchegorsk/drugie_zhiv...revo_2224704457

Here: https://www.avito.ru/luchegorsk/drugie_zhiv...revo_2224704457

Funny. I have already communicated with this person, and he replied that the Far Eastern marble (Brevitarsis) he just doesn't have one.

Eh... I would have ordered it, but it's really too late to take it from the Far East. It's cold out there. Maybe I could buy something from you, if you are closer? You never know, you also breed beetles...

I couldn't run it through the loop. The beetles came out and lived for a while, much less than they could have. This applied to the larvae that had fully grown from me - I had brought the female from there for a long time and the large ones I had received from him. This is about mandjurik, brevitarsis lived longer, but I didn't want to breed them.

This post was edited by MXM-03.11.2023 21: 47

I couldn't run it through the loop. The beetles came out and lived for a while, much less than they could have. This applied to the larvae that had fully grown from me - I had brought the female from there for a long time and the large ones I had received from him. This is about mandjurik, brevitarsis lived longer, but I didn't want to breed them.

Don't you have any other types?

MXM, what tasks did you create for them? I got the impression that all the spices are indestructible and easy to breed. And their imagos live in captivity for a very long time - up to a year, if you do not forget to feed them on time. And six months is almost guaranteed. This is despite the fact that in nature we have after a month from the beginning of summer it is difficult to find live ones. That is, the conditions of captivity do not shorten the life expectancy, but rather greatly lengthen it. I think the main thing is food: banana ragweed for any bronzes. Of course, I didn't have mandjurik, but I doubt that they are so different. By the way, what kind of "mandzhurika"? Maybe manjuiriensis?

The banana was, I don't know what's wrong with it, smooth too little, and golden and hieroglyphics (?) they lived well. Only they just did not want. Yes, manjuiriensis.

This post was edited by MXM-06.11.2023 01: 16

Strange. In my experience, cetonias are much more capricious than spices (those 4 species that I happened to contain). As far as I remember, I never even divorced them, although I didn't really persist and lost interest in them for a long time. Otherwise, what are the conditions?

The message was edited INO-07.11.2023 19: 11

Terr, substrate, light bulb, bark to get closer to it. Perhaps the golden ones and hieroglyphs lived in containers without a lamp, and terra, I don't remember.

The light bulb is superfluous, only the air will dry out. What is the substrate?

As far as I've heard and seen, they're basking under it. Everyone has been. Foliage of various degrees of sweetness, purchased from prepared sawdust, rot added.

Aha, they'll warm up, and then they'll take off and start beating, wasting their life force. The lamp is superfluous, believe me. In general, if a beetle, especially not caught in nature, but hatched, becomes on the wing-this is an alarming sign, meaning that in the current conditions it is not comfortable. It is better if he never even tries to fly in his life.

The basis of the correct substrate should initially be crushed last year's oak foliage and oak dust (brown and white in equal proportions). You can also add rot and fruit leaves, as well as peat. Keep the condition slightly moist at all times. Over time, most of the substrate must be kneaded with larval excrement. You do not need to remove them, except for those that fall out when you open the terrarium. Because it is named from this shit that the most durable cradles are obtained. I do not advise buying anything, because kh. z., what is mixed in there. There was an unpleasant precedent.

The post was edited INO-08.11.2023 23: 48

Oak at tsetonishem and mandzhuriki was, of course, in the beginning added to the foliage substitute earth. Smaragdins oertzeni and yellow-green (I forgot Latin), dicronorrins derbiana laiardi, eudiceles morgani, metsinorrins ugandenzis and immaculicolis, gymnetis marmorealis lived well with me.

All of these I know, except the last one, are also simple beetles. And they don't need a lamp either. Although our proteas are simpler than metsinorrins and other nedogoliafs in that the males do not fight with each other, and the larvae do not cannibalize very zealously. At the same time, speziosima is larger than smaragdin and eudicel. In general, this is a rare case when something local can compete with the tropics in terms of showiness and simplicity of content.

Eudiceles are bigger, what are you, morgani grows up to 4.5 cm. I agree, although I like mandjuriki better. The most beautiful of ours comes first.

No, I do not know such eudicellae. I looked it up in Google just now-big and shiny green, just like I like it. But those with which I am familiar (I can't remember the species anymore, it was a long time ago) were smaller and the color was nondescript-brown with a faint copper sheen and a couple of black spots on each elytra. If the size was larger than the speciosissima, then only in the male due to the length of the" horn", otherwise smaller. My specialsiissms grow up to 3 cm, without any horns. Not mezinorina of course, but also impressive. Especially when a whole bunch of them are sitting on a snag.

Aha, they'll warm up, and then they'll take off and start beating, wasting their life force. The lamp is superfluous, believe me. In general, if a beetle, especially not caught in nature, but hatched, becomes on the wing-this is an alarming sign, meaning that in the current conditions it is not comfortable. It is better if he never even tries to fly in his life.

The basis of the correct substrate should initially be crushed last year's oak foliage and oak dust (brown and white in equal proportions). You can also add rot and fruit leaves, as well as peat. Keep the condition slightly moist at all times. Over time, most of the substrate must be kneaded with larval excrement. You do not need to remove them, except for those that fall out when you open the terrarium. Because it is named from this shit that the most durable cradles are obtained. I do not advise buying anything, because kh. z., what is mixed in there. There was an unpleasant precedent.

And what is the optimal thickness of the substrate for laying eggs? Ratio to beetle size.

It seems that the thicker, the better, but such a Terr with a front door figs will find, so I can not check this assumption. And so 5 cm of any bronze is enough, especially if the larva is one. Many beetles during pupation can not stand the neighborhood with their own kind, even in a large volume of the substrate. Fortunately, this is hardly the case for spices.