Photo #34405: Eudemis profundana

23.10.2014 15:00, Alexandr Zhakov Corrected data.

Not identified → Eudemis profundana / Tentatively identified / Alexandr Zhakov.

23.10.2014 13:51, Alexandr Zhakov

The determinants of the Hebrews. USSR (t.IV, P1, page 414) for Eudemis profundana only Europe and Asia Minor, probably really happened in the invasion DV :))

23.10.2014 13:44, Yuri Semejkin

The genus 3 species. Eudemis gyrotis - can be eliminated. This species per.krl. grayish-blackish brown with a wedge-shaped spot on the dorsal edge.
Next: E. porphyrana. This type of pen. KRL. without wedge blackish spots on the dorsal edge of the border basal field.
This is something that can be said is in appearance.
And the third variant of E. profundana of information about appearance I have not.Forage Mongolian oak. But that does nothing. The description of all 3 types are marked different food plants, in Vol. H. And Mongolian oak.

23.10.2014 13:40, Alexandr Zhakov

just wanted polest determinant in DV, and you had already. :))

23.10.2014 13:28, Irina Nikulina

Here http://jpmoth.org/~dmoth/51_Tortricidae/5002%20Olethreutinae/framepage_olethreutinae2.htm and looked to insects of the Far East (v.5, p3, page 287) specified, except Europe, Japan, Korea, Mal. Asia

23.10.2014 13:24, Alexandr Zhakov

There Eudemis profundana, there are three other species, or I do not look back?
http://jpmoth.org/Tortricidae/Olethreutinae/Eudemis.html

23.10.2014 13:14, Irina Nikulina

Sash, perhaps, profundana not from Europe, because both types, there are closer, in Japan, for example, on imeyutsya- jpmoth both est.Pravda, there is something red on the back of the photo is not visible

23.10.2014 11:57, Alexandr Zhakov

Yes, Yuri, the Butterfly reliably determined by genitalia, but I reviewed many images in the net, both from Europe and from Asia to Europe and the literature, but did not find E. porphyrana with a red back and red beams of her scales. If the butterflies are not collected. then we have two options:
1.Interesting color variation Eudemis porphyrana, which is not among the scanned image of this species.
2. This Eudemis profundana, which was brought to the Far East with the planting material from Europe, ie invasion occurred, and the type is now present in the Far East. But to promote area to the east for thousands of kilometers, only photo scary :))). If you find a publication on Eudemis profundana on DV.put it, if we find the exact image from the back of a red Eudemis profundana, put it.
If specimens collected one option to cook :))

23.10.2014 8:42, Yuri Semejkin

Alexander! Let's start with what we see, instead of the conventional wisdom. I've added the individual can help, although the qualifier says that is determined by the genitals.

23.10.2014 0:46, Alexandr Zhakov

I would sayEudemis profundana, but it is not in Siberia.

23.10.2014 0:20, Yuri Semejkin

Eudemis porphyrana ?