Photo #35888: Chloriola gratissima

05.12.2014 16:27, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Vasiliy- diagnosis CUT !!!

05.12.2014 16:23, Irina Nikulina

But he mothsofborneo on such a painted, with a bluish tinge http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-18/ariolicini/ariolicini_15_1.php, but they call it, as translated - deep (saturated) emerald - green (deep emerald green). Anyway, obviously not the same as in Paracrama dulcissima)

05.12.2014 16:10, Dmitriy Pozhogin

In this photo, the color of the top - obviously not green.

05.12.2014 16:08, Irina Nikulina

Dmitry, I see that the butterfly has moved, and yet - not quite understand what it does not fit on Chloriola gratissima of paragraphs 1 and 3? And what kind of gratissima - a photo or a photo of Basil link cat. I gave to gratissima? Especially do not understand the 3rd item ..

05.12.2014 10:14, Dmitriy Pozhogin Corrected data.

Paracrama dulcissima / Vasiliy Feoktistov → Chloriola gratissima / Irina Nikulina.

05.12.2014 8:54, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Excellent chewed convincingly. Irina, thank you very much.
Dmitri, no tsvketoperedacha is not lame: what it is, dried, and such here. This is the Japanese rendition limping soon :)
Transference arguments Irina talk about this imperative.

05.12.2014 8:30, Dmitriy Pozhogin

Irina! Excellent all chewed, only 1 and 3 point for Chloriola gratissima not suitable. Or is it the color rendition is lame ???

04.12.2014 23:33, Irina Nikulina

Good. Struggling with confusion) Here are 2 photos, which trace the differences between these species. (And at the same time point out the contrastParacrama dulcissimafrom closely related speciesParacrama latimargo)
dulcissima - http://www.papua-insects.nl/insect%20orders/Lepidoptera/Nolidae/Chloephorinae/Eariadini/Paracrama/Paracrama%20dulcissima.htm
gratissima -http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/04_NOLIDAE/02_CHLOEPHORINAE/150_Chloriola/Chloriola%20gratissima/Chloriola%20gratissima.htm
1. Color: dulcissima - a yellowish-green, gratissima - rich emerald green
2.Transverse bands: dulcissima - plain, light-yellow, subbazalnaya - practically straight, medial - with a small break near the Coast, gratissima - two-tone, brown and white, uneven, with several bends, especially medially.
3.Apekalnaya zone: dulcissima - a light, gray-pink, turning into a narrow toothed zone along the outer edge of the VC, which is the whole length is about the same width (in contrast to the closely related species Paracrama latimargo, where it is wider and has a deep central concavity of the edge http://www.papua-insects.nl/insect%20orders/Lepidoptera/Nolidae/Chloephorinae/Eariadini/Paracrama/Paracrama%20latimargo.htm),
gratissima - black (dark); area along the outer edge of the VC no.So thenChloriola gratissima

04.12.2014 23:10, Vasiliy Feoktistov

It would be interesting and very useful to be here for the future clearly defined features of these two species, as their photos on the network going mess.

04.12.2014 21:12, Irina Nikulina

Collate descriptions on mothsofborneo and "Walker F. Catalogue of the heterocerous lepidopterous Insects collected at Sarawak, in Borneo by Mr. AR Wallace, with description on new species // J. Proc. Linn. Soc. (Zool.). - 1862. " ThereChloriola gratissimaThere are three reliable attributive characteristic of these species. If you want to list all later.

04.12.2014 19:50, Irina Nikulina

View more than one, I think. It is necessary to understand. In Paracrama dulcissima in synonyms is
Nolasena dulcissima Walker, [1863], and at Chloriola gratissima in synonyms - Nolasena gratissima Walker, [1863]. But Nolasena dulcissima and Nolasena gratissima - two different kinds http://wallace-online.org/content/frameset?pageseq=1&itemID=WSPEC071&viewtype=side you have to choose p. 76, 334 and 335 types, the description of them are completely different with the instructions especially on ... But why jpmoth.org for both species shows a photo of the same instance - is not clear, though, alas, I am faced with two times recently, studying Risoba.
I looked - and www.mothsofborneo description is completely different.

04.12.2014 10:00, Vasiliy Feoktistov

Until inaccurate although not in the genus similar:
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/04_NOLIDAE/02_CHLOEPHORINAE/146_Paracrama/Paracrama%20dulcissima/Paracrama%20dulcissima.htm
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-18/ariolicini/ariolicini_13_1.php
Confusing presence? Like? typeChloriola gratissimaWalker, 1863, standing in another genus:
http://www.jpmoth.org/~dmoth/Digital_Moths_of_Asia/90_NOCTUOIDEA/04_NOLIDAE/02_CHLOEPHORINAE/150_Chloriola/Chloriola%20gratissima/Chloriola%20gratissima.htm
http://www.mothsofborneo.com/part-18/ariolicini/ariolicini_15_1.php
Please note that the jpmoth.org ! for both species shows a photo of the same instance! (this speaks of the feet and antennae) (((
That's so lost respect for one of the most popular sites (did not even know who to trust .....
Maybe it's all one type?