Photo #99122: Tentyriini sp.

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Base gallery. Upperside. Alive insect.

Photo: Viktor Kolesnikov. Image without retouching at the website. Identified by: Nikolay Grebennikov

Place of shooting/catching: Казахстан, склоны Ульбинского хребта в пригороде г. Усть-Каменогорска, луг

Comments on this image

27.11.2024 9:15, Viktor Kolesnikov

Peter, thank you for the heartfelt conversation and some details of your "kitchen"! I had a rough idea of everything, and believe me, I appreciate your hard work in preserving and developing the site in these difficult times.) Unlike you, I dreamed of being a biologist as a child, but it didn't work out and I ended up becoming an architect. And I've always had my camera with me, from first grade to now. It has become for me like an outlet and a window into the world of Nature. Being an avid tourist, I shoot almost everything, from landscapes to Lasius niger. In recent years, I prefer photographing birds and plants of Kazakhstan (infected at the Plantarium) well, along the way, butterflies and all sorts of boogers in the country and around. Now retired, I'm reviewing my archive and I want to share it with someone. For the photographer, every frame, even such as this ground beetle, is somehow dear, connected with some events and stories. This is the antagonism between the photographer and the site.) It's kind of annoying when you know that it (a photo of an indeterminate type) will be silently moved to some distant cell of the server.) By the way, on the site, as it is not enough information for losers, at least on my original question. What should I do if I don't know exactly the specific name of a taxon (which is 90% ), but only the family or genus? How do I upload them and ask someone to identify them every time? And how can I further intervene in the process? Or still write an inaccurate name and then wait for your reaction. Good luck!

26.11.2024 22:38, Peter Khramov

Victor, I don't think it's all that bad :--) By points: Just from the photos, it is impossible to guarantee that approximately 80% of the species can be accurately identified... That's not so. For full confidence, it would be good to know what "100% of views" is, but if I understand correctly what you mean by 100%, then no, not 80%. In confirmation-branches of definitions on Molbiol, definitions in the Insecticide gallery, well, or, not to be mentioned at night, on the iNaturalist. Yes, the definitions are not always correct (especially in the latter case), but often this is not due to the fact that it is impossible to determine the view from the photo. Or, perhaps, we have comrades who determine by the available copies, and not by photos, always cook something, or do gene analyzes? .. Nope. Here, however, you can fly off into a discussion of what a view is, and what accuracy in determining for what purposes is needed, but it is advisable to do this if there is a bottle on the table. only professional (or experienced amateurs) people who are already initially sure of the taxon can upload photos to the site...It turns out that photographers and just nature lovers seem to fall out of the site's policy No. So far, professional photographers are not very good at photographing, and photographers are not very good at identifying. On this site, I would just like to see both categories (and a few more), for a cumulative effect, so to speak. If you somehow need to determine the lower limit of knowledge — I would say that this site is at least for those who use Latin names. Well, or who is striving for it :--) why I stopped visiting the site, this is a feeling of uselessness Victor, I assure you, we need you. You may have found yourself on a "pause" in the active work of the site last time, when I devoted much less time to it, and gradually other active citizens became infected... Now we are trying to fix this. This is no offense, I understand that it was created specifically as a site for Oenomologists and Collectionists. Both for entomologists and collectors, of course. But not only that. As proof, you can compare the fullness of the photo gallery on the site and the fullness of the pages of species and other taxa on the site. And the number of photos that were viewed based on the results of uploading to the site and discussion. And as a lyric. At one time, I went to the biofactory department because I wanted to take photos of insects at a serious level. And smart people suggested that an insect photographer (in any case, a wild one) is first "insects", and only then "photographer". And this is still in the film era. And right now... So, having something to do with the creation and development of this site, I responsibly declare to you that it is also for photographers. :-- ) Another thing is that in the photographic environment there is often excessive freedom in relation to entomology. In the biological environment, wild photos are often treated with disdain. And sites are often made to them by strange people who like both photography and entomology, yeah. By the way, I get regular calls from both entomologists and photographers. But I still think that on the site you can combine some with others. Ideally, you should make the site "adapt" to the tastes of each user. But this is a matter for the future. If there is any activity on the site, next year we will probably radically redo it. My web knowledge is no longer sufficient for it, and they are outdated. You will have to look for money and hire narrow specialists for this business, and not sculpt everything yourself (until now, I have only turned to third — party performers point-by-point-to adapt the mechanism of online maps or for "substitutions" in the search, for example). In general, everything is in a beam, we clamp the aperture to 2, pull the flash to the side and shoot Lasius niger in full frame! Well, or if not lyazius himself, then at least an anthill.