About cicadas

Caught in the Caucasus and Crimea!
Stupidly shol at the sound, looked out and pressed a net to the trunk...
with a sharp blow of the net, he collected them from thin stems...
In the New World (Crimea) flew to the light of street phanars, in other places I did not notice such features!

In Turkey, I caught cicadas on pine trees directly with my hands, which shocked the locals, for some reason they are afraid of these cicadas.
And a net among the branches is inconvenient.
Cicadas, when they squeal, do not notice anything around them :- ) it is necessary to bring your hand up smoothly and quickly press it with your fingers behind your sides.

In Turkey on the pines

What kind of view don't you know? It's just that a friend brought some cicadas from there, but I can't tell. By the way, he collected them on the side of the road, shot down.

This post was edited by Zhuk - 05/10/2007 21: 45

Nope, I don't know. There were two types-one thick gray color and yellow at the roots of the wings.
Others are smaller and narrower. They are brown without yellow on the wings.

On Sakhalin, the situation is as follows. I was there in August, cicadas outside the city (Yu.Sakhalinsk) was a lot, crackled everywhere, but sat high on the birches, when approaching or fell silent, or flew to a new place (judging by the sound). It was impossible to calculate the location of the position at a great distance high in the crown. I accidentally caught one, and then, when I hit a branch with a net, it was left without a head In the light. Maybe primaki what are there?

Sergey, cicadas can only be caught by sound. In the tropics, they sometimes fly to the light (I'm talking about song cicadas!), but here - hardly. I have caught 4-5 species of cicadas in my life. Essno, the overwhelming majority-screaming males. But even a screaming male is very careful. Approach slowly, try to spot it from afar. It's like a Western: the one who first noticed ("shot":)), he won the Exception-when 2 males sleep on the trunk, next to each other. This is where they get VERY involved in the process.. And if there is also a female nearby.. I remember catching 2 cicadas with both hands at once (common, the largest in the south of the former USSR).

Cicadas on the sound is accurate. I, for example, catch our tibicina hamaodis just like that. But you just need to find a place convenient for fishing. I was lucky and found it, otherwise it's not that easy in the woods or on the edge of the forest to listen to the chorus of deo will get very far. I fished on the moodlm maple Acera negodyaysky (maple), on a shrub. That's great one pest got on top of another. So for half an hour or an hour I have 7 copies. it was. And before that, I was only happy in chorus. You need to approach very carefully, otherwise they immediately fall silent and that's it. And then on the bush with a net you pry and in 8 cases out of 10 you have a cicada . But I don't know how to catch it with my hands, they won't let us in (our people at least know full-time immediately fly away), this is the first and the second trunk was seen, a friend told me it once bit

Very good site for approximate identification of cicadas by their singing! There are pictures of cicadas and their biotopes.
http://www.cicadasong.eu/

Very good site for approximate identification of cicadas by their singing! There are pictures of cicadas and their biotopes.
http://www.cicadasong.eu/

This site is a good example of the fact that, (and E. Mayr wrote about this in his books!), indistinguishable species differ morphologically in singing (or in bioaccoustics if you use scientific words).

There I also found an article on the description of a new (in Europe!) singing species. I. it is not superfluous for me to add that according to preliminary data in this article, a comparison at the DNA level confirms the selection of a new species by voice! Morphology is still nervously doing something on the sidelines .

http://www.cicadasong.eu/files/article-19.pdf

This post was edited by amara - 07.03.2011 09: 59

In the Caucasus, I caught cicadas Tibicen sp., simply mowing them with a net from branches at a height of 3-4 meters, where they sang. At the same time, it was difficult to catch, because these tibicenes were very careful and when approaching a tree a person with a net often fell silent and flew away. I had to sneak up...

Cicada (in this case - Cicada orni) can be caught by hand. In photo 1, she is sitting on the trunk of a Ficus carica L. fig tree. (fig tree, fig tree), in "natural" conditions, so to speak, at the height of the second floor of "apartments". With a certain effort, you can reach from the" balcony". The main thing is to make" sharp"movements ("grasping") only at the very last moment. In photo 2 – it is the same (the same individual), but in conditions, so to speak, "unnatural".
More often there are situations when "the eye sees, but the tooth does not reach" (as in photo 3). In this case, we take off our shirt (T-shirt), and if we are "topless", then we remove (of course, by "consent") from the nearest passer-by (option: passer-by), and, folding it into a non-restful lump (such a projectile will not damage the insect), throw it into the cicada. The cicada falls to the ground (if the "projectile" hits the target), as a rule, together with the "projectile"; here, - do not yawn, - grab! It is important to correctly calculate the distance to the intended target and the initial flight speed of the "projectile" (i.e., the force of the throw). The time of the projectile's "approach" to the target should be less than the reaction time of the "victim" (the latter – "reaction time" - is understood, almost in accordance with the comments to the SDA EB, as "the time from the moment of danger detection to the beginning of taking measures to avoid danger"). In 2/3 of cases, success is guaranteed; tested by experience.

This post was edited by Justus - 21.07.2011 17: 09

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I once found a cicada with a completely missing belly and it could fly safely!!! What could it be?

Well, it happens in insects, someone bites off the abdomen, but the head and chest are still alive. Insects are so arranged that they can live for a very long time with a torn abdomen, and with a torn head, too.

Or was it just obvious that this is an anomaly of development?

I don't know where the belly was from, the chest was covered with some kind of film, it felt like thin rubber to the touch.

This post was edited by Entomon - 02/17/2012 09: 39

The cicada, of course, is not preserved?

The cicada, of course, is not preserved?

No, it wasn't saved(. I was then in Lazarevskaya, in a sanatorium, and there... you can't hear anything but these cicadas

Cicada as pictured Justus'a

After all, this is probably someone who bit off the abdomen, because, for example, in a butterfly, even in theory, you can cause such an anomaly of development, and the loss of the abdomen, and in cicadas, incomplete transformation, the larva cannot live without the abdomen, and when molting, the abdomen will not fall off just like that.

I've heard thousands of cicadas in Turkey. I tried to catch them, but tracking didn't work, because they fly away when the hand is half a meter away from them.
However, if you still catch the beast and bring it home, does it have a chance to live? At home, there are trees that you can eat (suck) and there are nets on the windows that you can't escape. I think I can survive living with one male....
Is there any way to catch a female?
And in general, I wonder in what month these singers appear?

This post was edited by alex017 - 02.04.2012 18: 23

In Thailand, I fished during the day - we flew in large numbers, landed on flowers and trees. And in the Altai - right in the snow collected)

And these Turkish midges do not allow themselves to be caught. Moreover, there are very small ones, and there are large ones.
Compared Thailand and Turkey ))

And these Turkish midges do not allow themselves to be caught. Moreover, there are very small ones, and there are large ones.
Compared Thailand and Turkey ))

Sorry, I generally shared my experience, did not answer your question)

So it seems that no one will say anything sensible. because everyone is only interested in pins.

So it seems that no one will say anything sensible. because everyone is only interested in pins.

Yes, there is a plan for the shaft, shaft according to plan )) Only it is better not to talk about it, everything is very touchy here ))) Although, for collectors it is quite normal., they are all like this)))

It would be better to collect live insects. Trupomania seems strange to me.

And you'd better keep your opinion to yourself and not impose it on anyone. everyone will decide for themselves what is best for them.

I've heard thousands of cicadas in Turkey. I tried to catch them, but tracking didn't work, because they fly away when the hand is half a meter away from them.
However, if you still catch the beast and bring it home, does it have a chance to live? At home, there are trees that you can eat (suck) and there are nets on the windows that you can't escape. I think I can survive living with one male....
Is there any way to catch a female?
And in general, I wonder in what month these singers appear?

It is not known for sure whether the cicada will be able to eat exactly the plants that you have at home. Since among the cicadas there are those that can only feed on one species, genus or family of plants. Although there are also polyphages. Most likely, he will starve to death.

I have citrus and baobab. That's it. which has impressive trunks. I'll bring it back (if I catch it) and see. Read. that adults don't eat at all.... I will definitely release some of them into the forest. Maybe they'll get lucky.... I'll probably bring you a Cicada orni. message 12 of this topic.
But in what month do they appear approximately and in what numbers? Will they be available at the end of May?

This post was edited by alex017 - 05.04.2012 04: 47

Sps!
I have citrus and baobab. That's it. which has impressive trunks. I'll bring it back (if I catch it) and see. Read. that adults don't eat at all.... I will definitely release some of them into the forest. Maybe they'll get lucky.... I'll probably bring you a Cicada orni. message 12 of this topic.
But in what month do they appear approximately and in what numbers? Will they be available at the end of May?

Maybe they will be at the end of May, or maybe a little late. Of course, I don't know for sure, but it seems to me that they should appear earlier in Turkey. Or maybe they are there all year round?
It is absolutely impossible to release "alien" species into nature!!!

Some time ago, I had a conversation about the possibility of breeding cicadas with a successful keeper friend. He had the idea to use Canadian maple with its sweet juice to feed the sucking insects. I don't remember any more details, and as far as I know, he didn't conduct any experiments in this area.

I will definitely release some of them into the forest. Maybe they'll get lucky....

You don't need to do this! Such introductions don't do any good. Just today I listened to a report about the extinct Macquarie parrot, which was destroyed by a seemingly harmless flightless bird-a shepherd boy. By the way, this shepherd boy was brought to Macquarie Island to save him from extermination.

Some time ago, I had a conversation about the possibility of breeding cicadas with a successful keeper friend. He had the idea to use Canadian maple with its sweet juice to feed the sucking insects. I don't remember any more details, and as far as I know, he didn't conduct any experiments in this area.

Botanists have repeatedly told me that our maples with similar leaves-A. platanoides etc. (i.e. not A. negundo, A. tataricum) - also have sweet juice. But I didn't check it myself. And now is the time, sap flow.

You don't need to do this! Such introductions don't do any good. Just today I listened to a report about the extinct Macquarie parrot, which was destroyed by a seemingly harmless flightless bird-a shepherd boy. By the way, this shepherd boy was brought to Macquarie Island to save him from extermination.

Off-top, of course - the Internet seems to write that the blame was assigned to cats of the Victorian era. Just wondering

In order to get at least something, you need to steal dozens or hundreds, but you didn't manage to catch one piece last time, so if you have to release it (don't kill it), then most likely 1-2 pieces caught.
I will be in Turkey from 7 May 22 days. Last time I was at the beginning of May - I haven't heard any cicadas yet. Unfortunately, I don't have a maple tree at home, if you only dig it up. It is deciduous, during the winter without cold, it will disappear. I'll try everything else with bao, citrus. myrtles and tea trees....
The birch tree also has sweet juice, like.
But the problem is likely to be getting used to the noise. They squeal a little too loudly.

This post was edited by alex017 - 06.04.2012 06: 43

Fish probably also let out? And you don't eat meat and don't wear leather clothes? You are told by knowledgeable people that you should not release alien species!!! It is not known how they will behave, maybe a few will be enough to start breeding. One such "good man" brought African bees to Brazil, also thought that there would be nothing terrible from a few that ran out through the net. However, they have already spread to the southern US!

Yes, you don't need to go for examples: Leptinotarsa decemlineata what an example of the most powerful such introduction (albeit involuntary). The animal must live within its natural habitat and it is not up to humans to decide where to live.

Fish probably also let out?
You are told by knowledgeable people that you should not release alien species!!!  

OK, I was persuaded. If I do, I'll suffer until the end.

Not exactly about the fish, but I returned the predatory snails taken by mistake in Turkey to my homeland, and I'm also going to return the horse anemones, which have taken root perfectly in the aquarium, but I needed a place...

Isn't it easier to put anemones in "good hands", especially if they have taken root perfectly?