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mems, 11.11.2007 16:54

Hello everyone

You can help me with this question:
Where to find the pupa of the night peacock moth (emperor moth)
as far as I know, the caterpillars sit on nettles, but it's already cold
and should I look for pupae in the ground under this plant?

In the summer, I caught a male peacock-eye in the field (awesome handsome) since
then and got sick on this topic.

I already have three pupae at home (one is a hawk moth, the other two I haven't recognized yet). But I couldn't find peacock eyes.

Please tell me where you can find the pupa of the
Night Peacock's Eye.

Thank you in advance

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11.11.2007 17:17, AntSkr

On nettles? They also feed on fruit trees.

11.11.2007 17:18, omar

1. Where do you live?
2. What kind of peacock eye are you interested in?
3. It is useless to look for nettles - they do not eat them.

11.11.2007 17:20, AntSkr

In general, emperor moth is not a Big night peacock's eye, it is Saturnia pavonia...

11.11.2007 17:28, mems

I live in Transnistria (near Moldova and Ukraine)

Actually the peacock eye itself Saturnia pavonia
I'm just not strong in names

11.11.2007 17:30, Pavel Morozov

If we are talking about a small peacock-eye, then its caterpillars can be found on willow, strawberry, heather. Polyphage.

11.11.2007 17:36, mems

And where do they often hang their cocoon (on the ground, grass, branches)?

11.11.2007 17:36, AntSkr

More blackberries and blackthorn...

11.11.2007 17:42, mems

Yeah, I saw in the pictures right on the fallen leaves lies

11.11.2007 18:06, Pavel Morozov

And where do they often hang their cocoon (on the ground, grass, branches)?

Yes, right on the branches can.

11.11.2007 18:11, mems

And on what varieties (or they don't care)

11.11.2007 18:16, AntSkr

rather, they don't care... especially varieties... wild strawberries are more likely than garden strawberries... In any case, I've never seen it on Sadovaya Street...

This post was edited by AntSkr - 11.11.2007 18: 17

11.11.2007 18:31, mems

Yes, I'll go to the forest to dig
, And then I attacked the nettles so fiercely - I collected more mushrooms

11.11.2007 18:47, RippeR

mems:
New people from Bessarabia!!! Cool! Let's get acquainted!
Are you sure you have pavonia? Or still pyri? Pavonia has not been noted in our country for figs knows how many, maybe someone found it, but it is silent smile.gif

11.11.2007 18:59, mems

Let's get acquainted !!!

I looked now at the catalog most likely pyri , I don't remember exactly

But it was a male and the belly was big, shaggy and black (like in a fur coat)

I found him in a field, sitting upright, clinging to a
stalk of grass, and he wasn't afraid of me at all. At first I thought he might be dead.
It turned out - just calm

11.11.2007 19:43, taler

Probably Piri.If its name is "Big Night Peacock Eye".Pavonia passes as "small",well, spini - "medium".Piri prefers(we have,in any case, fruit trees: apple trees, cherries.Then not the fact that fat and shaggy-male. smile.gif

11.11.2007 19:47, AntSkr

It is better to look at the mustache - you can immediately see who is the male and who is the female.

11.11.2007 19:51, taler

And then the men are used to distinguish between the shagginess of the chest and abdomen. lol.gif And the "scales" also have "mustachioed" females. lol.gif

11.11.2007 19:51, mems

So I looked at the sawyere

11.11.2007 20:11, taler

and how?A male?
Most likely...They can fly quite far away from forage plants

11.11.2007 20:24, mems

Male male

11.11.2007 20:38, AntSkr

But they are flying to the female - so the females must be in the specified area...

11.11.2007 20:43, mems

Here would be a female to find
And all the males of our

11.11.2007 20:46, AntSkr

Especially if everything turns out as described in Fabre.

11.11.2007 20:52, mikee

rather, they don't care... especially varieties... wild strawberries are more likely than garden strawberries... In any case, I've never seen it on Sadovaya Street...

In the Moscow region, I personally found a caterpillar of the last age Saturnia pavonia on garden strawberries. Pavlovsk Posad neighborhood.
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11.11.2007 21:24, AntSkr

Last year I found a caterpillar crawling on the ground. I wove a cocoon, but then for some reason I died, although I did diapause. This year I found a caterpillar sitting on some branch in the grass (the caterpillar is most likely female), but I couldn't try to take the butterfly out of it-unfortunately, I had to leave, and there would be nothing to feed in the city frown.gif

18.11.2007 16:15, Трофим

I wish I could find a female
And all the males are ours

That's for sure. This year, on the 17th of May, I went fishing in Sarata Meresheny. There's Piri. But for 2 hours only one male and then, so killed. And if it were a female, that would be the case, but alas. But how this pterodactyl flies, how it flies!!! Great. By the way, maybe not in the subject, but I had an idea how to catch butterflies at night in the forest. There are such transformers-accumulators on computers I do not know what to call exactly. When the light is abruptly cut down, the computer can still work for some time like 15 minutes. But this is a comp, 350 watts. And a 15-watt lamp, I calculated about 5 hours. Any suggestions on this. jump.gif confused.gif smile.gif

18.11.2007 19:57, taler

Not an accumulator,but a stabilizer.And a slightly different action.I don't think it will last.Most likely, the same 15 minutes will be, if not less .And even then, if only removed from the network. And not every accumulator will last 5 hours without recharging.So, no suggestions on this.Either a generator, an inverter, or battery-powered LEDs. moderator.gif
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18.11.2007 21:46, RippeR

recent experience, if I'm not mistaken, of the American and Thaler showed that fishing in remote areas from settlements turned out to be not very promising.. apparently, butterflies are more attracted to the light of settlements than some small nonsense in the forest. smile.gif

I didn't get lucky with the female piri either this year, only the male came. But it seems to have taken its rightful place in the Dorcadion collection.. But there is a pupa, most likely females, and it can bring offspring.. After all, you never know, the male will be easier to catch..

18.11.2007 22:43, AntSkr

By the way, according to Fabre's description, dozens of males flew to the female. Was there so many of them before, or was it really so? This is not some banal view. Moreover, why are there so many more males than females?

18.11.2007 22:54, RippeR

well, the ratio of females to males is always the same, in most insects, like... especially butterflies.. Why is it so.. probably something to do with the formation of germ cells..
Even here, in a good place, a dozen peacocks can fly to the light, but for this you need to be at the right time, in the right place.. right..
But to fly to the female, I think the chances increase here.. and here the factor of how many females is hardly important.. I think if you collect a lot of females in one place, the power of the effect is unlikely to increase.
Although, in general, earlier for insects the grace was much greater.. Less damage, dirt, and waste. That's why it was the biggest problem, because we used to catch rare beetles and butterflies right in the city.. But, alas, industrialization.....

18.11.2007 22:54, mikee

By the way, according to Fabre's description, dozens of males flew to the female. Was there so many of them before, or was it really so? This is not some banal view. Moreover, why are there so many more males than females?

I think that it's just that females are much larger and more massive than males and fly worse, so this impression is formed. I observed pyri in large numbers about 10 years ago in Dagomys. Females and males flew into the light of the lanterns in approximately equal numbers. By mass, I mean the option when you could see about 10 butterflies smile.gifin an evening Unfortunately, it was the end of the summer season and the butterflies were mostly badly beaten.

18.11.2007 22:58, AntSkr

I think that it's just that females are much larger and more massive than males and fly worse, so this impression is formed. I observed pyri in large numbers about 10 years ago in Dagomys. Females and males flew into the light of the lanterns in approximately equal numbers. By mass, I mean the option when you could see about 10 butterflies smile.gifin an evening Unfortunately, it was the end of the summer season and the butterflies were mostly badly beaten.

But pyri is a non-feeding species. And the specimen does not fly for long, the male about three days. After all, new fresh and non-lost ones should fly?

18.11.2007 22:59, AntSkr

Has anyone tried to lure male cocoonworms to females in the same way? And other families besides peacock eyes?

18.11.2007 23:06, RippeR

better in the light

18.11.2007 23:08, AntSkr

Yes, the light is clear, just if you catch a female-why not take advantage of the opportunity... especially with rare insects...

18.11.2007 23:35, mikee

But pyri is a non-feeding species. And the specimen does not fly for long, the male about three days. After all, new fresh and non-lost ones should fly?

I don't know, but the butterflies caught alive remained up to 10 days. Of course, after being caught, they no longer had to fly smile.gif
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20.11.2007 12:04, Трофим

Not an accumulator,but a stabilizer.And a slightly different action.I don't think it will last.Most likely, the same 15 minutes will be, if not less .And even then, if only removed from the network. And not every accumulator will last 5 hours without recharging.So, no suggestions on this.Either a generator, an inverter, or battery-powered LEDs. moderator.gif

I told you that the lamp is 15 watts. Maybe not five hours (this is a theoretical calculation, but definitely more). A friend told me that when the lights were turned off, they put a regular 50-60 watt light bulb and kept it pretty good for about an hour or more. As for removed only from the network. Here's the question. And about all three proposed things. LEDs are useless, the generator is more like a tractor at full speed (there will be more noise than anything else, and the weight...), and part-time devices for the price can not be taken in any way, the inverter - I have no idea what it is. The stabilizer agrees, but so does the battery, because it stores energy, and converts current from constant to alternating.

20.11.2007 16:57, Bad Den

LEDs are useless, the generator is more like a tractor at full speed (there will be more noise than anything else, and the weight...), and part-time devices for the price can not be taken in any way, the inverter - I have no idea what it is. The stabilizer agrees, but so does the battery, because it stores energy, and converts current from constant to alternating.

Noise is not a hindrance to insects smile.gif

Inverter - the price will be much more expensive than a portable generator. You need a car to get to it lol.gif

The battery does not convert current from DC to AC, it does just the inverter smile.gif
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20.11.2007 18:42, taler

Is that what they teach you at school?That the stabilizer and accumulator are one and the same and the latter converts current from DC to AC?!Or inspired ?
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