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Juglans, 11.06.2008 15:27

I've heard that there are scoops in Southeast Asia whose males drink the blood of elephants, rhinos, buffaloes, and tapirs. They pierce the integument with a sharp proboscis. Females feed on the juice of plant fruits. Has anyone seen them?" Did you collect it? Are there any other butterflies known to feed on tissues and organic matter of animal origin (I mean imago)?

This post was edited by Juglans - 11.06.2008 16: 51

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11.06.2008 17:17, Nilson

We are talking, apparently, about the scoop Calyptra eustrigata, Hampson, found from India to Malaysia. In general, there is a link:
http://www.funet.fi/pub/sci/bio/life/insec...ptra/index.html
where the list of types is shown.
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11.06.2008 23:13, Vlad Proklov

Calyptra thalictri can also pierce the skin and drink blood.

I saw an article somewhere (with photos!), I don't remember where...

12.06.2008 6:01, Juglans

Calyptra thalictri is found in Primorye, I think. So?

12.06.2008 8:09, Ilia Ustiantcev

Calyptra thalictri is also found near Moscow, but I think you said yourself that it only sucks blood from open wounds?

12.06.2008 14:37, Juglans

12.06.2008 15:27, Vlad Proklov

Calyptra thalictri is also found near Moscow, but I think you said yourself that it only sucks blood from open wounds?

Nah, it pierces like a cute one.

12.06.2008 15:29, Vlad Proklov

Here's the article.

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download file vampire.pdf

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12.06.2008 18:33, Bad Den

user posted image
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13.06.2008 5:53, Juglans

kotbegemot
Thank you for the article!
However, this is all very unexpected... In the photo in the article, the blood drops from the butterfly are red (i.e. there is not even a hint that they are digested..)

This post was edited by Juglans - 13.06.2008 09: 31

10.08.2008 15:12, guest: Андреас

- Excuse me, - I don't understand-is it a butterfly that really has an appropriately arranged proboscis?!!, - will, - "on a case-by-case basis", that is, depending on "inspiration", use your ability to pierce even if not elephant skin in the Moscow region!? "Or should she be thoroughly pissed off?"
- And so, - who knows!? "people don't complain; no one's seen it... "dogs, cats, and cows won't tell you either...

10.08.2008 18:49, Konung

I can confirm this fact from my own experience - in 2005, during night fishing, C. thalictri tried to bite me, but I didn't have time to bleed - I was thrown off my hand, but the stab with my proboscis was noticeable!
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10.08.2008 21:46, Трофим

That's how miracles happen. Just a little familiar with scoops.

10.08.2008 22:13, Grigory Grigoryev

We have 3 species of such scoops of the genus calyptra (Calpe) - lata, hokkaida and thalictri. By the way, quite numerous. This year, I've watched them do their vampire work, but not on my own. Very interesting!!! In the photo Bad Den'a one of the scoops of this kind.
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11.08.2008 10:15, Bad Den

This is not my photo, this is a link I inserted smile.gif
http://neatorama.cachefly.net/images/2007-...ampire-moth.jpg

11.08.2008 11:38, Grigory Grigoryev

Yes I understand ... shuffle.gif

01.11.2008 13:53, Potekhin

A previously unknown population of vampire butterflies has been found and described by scientists in Siberia...
http://www.membrana.ru/lenta/?8807
Is this a joke?

01.11.2008 14:07, Tigran Oganesov

No, it's not a joke, there are some in the Moscow region. There was a topic on the forum.

10.11.2008 17:49, amara

Probably everyone has already read it.
http://www.kp.ru/daily/24190.3/397961/

10.11.2008 19:29, Pavel Morozov

And there's an article in Ogonyok.
And what's new there?
Calyptra lata
Calyptra hokkaida
Calyptra thalicri

10.11.2008 20:11, AntSkr

somehow they didn't write it clearly... a non-entomologist will not understand the article, but will understand that all scoops drink blood, it says so...
and the fact that this family drinks blood has long been known to everyone, what is mysterious here?
"But one external difference has already been found: bloodsuckers have different wings." - this phrase I do not understand, some nonsense...

10.11.2008 20:15, AntSkr

"However, be careful with the butterflies. Horror flying on the wings of night, near " - I can imagine how people who read this article will now relate to butterflies...
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10.11.2008 22:52, Pavel Morozov

Yes just an article designed for the layman

11.11.2008 12:50, Tigran Oganesov

Uc Komsomolskaya Pravda - what did you expect?

11.11.2008 13:17, barko

the article ends with the words: "Nevertheless, be careful with butterflies. Horror flying on the wings of night is near , warns NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC magazine. And congratulations on the upcoming" holiday " of all evil spirits-Halloween."

The author will combine the words butterflies and evil spirits in one semantic series. For him, butterflies are evil spirits!

11.11.2008 16:09, omar

Horror flying on the wings of night is near , warns NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC magazine

Oh, I highly doubt that's what the magazine wrote. The translator from this obscene little newspaper must have made a fuss with the phrase.

11.11.2008 21:35, PG18

From here, probably...

14.11.2008 0:22, Chromocenter

yeah... To be honest, this is the first time I've heard that there are such bloodsuckers... truth... really elephants??? and then there are the males... what do they need blood for?
well, with Komsomolskaya Pravda demand, no, of course.

04.11.2015 1:11, Айна Жмволунова

In our apartment ( Len obl), butterflies appeared that
flew silently at night and bit like mosquitoes (size 0.3 mm).
The fumigator works on them.
Recently I found such a butterfly in clean underwear.
I think that larvae develop in blankets, pillows,
worn underwear, I thought it was linen lice, and they are
infestations.Arrived from the country potatoes (last year)
somewhere in May and filled the whole apartment-fly out on
the street. I get rid of them like laundry lice.
I discovered this recently after visiting a friend who brought
potatoes in the spring.
I read on Vkontakte that in St. Petersburg mosquitoes fly
up inaudibly, or maybe it's them-these butterflies...

04.11.2015 5:19, ИНО

0.3 mm? Maybe it's not a butterfly, but a glitch? I have never heard that in addition to shovels, some butterflies were mixed up in human bites (or, more correctly, proboscis pricks). And something tells me that your small butterflies, which are certainly not 0.3 mm long, but 0.3 cm long, are an ordinary dress or fur moth (or, alternatively, a barn moth), and someone else bites you. For example, the same "linen lice" that you "get rid of in the same way". Undersupplied, apparently. A mosquito can fly and bite quite silently, and it squeaks (or rather, it - only females drink blood) specifically at its own request, although it is not yet fully established why (one of the hypotheses is intraspecific communication).

04.11.2015 15:39, Айна Живолунова

Just today I see a drunk mosquito sitting on the wall,
I also thought "I feel sorry for the wall" - I hit it, and this creature
fell to the floor with a thud, I crushed it with my foot - a bloody trail. And you say
"moth". And the size is 3 mm from nose to tail, and the wingspan is 5 mm.
It's like a stick with wings when you're hungry. It usually bites
in the dark. But today is a very cloudy day...
You can hardly see them during the day.

04.11.2015 15:59, ИНО

"A wand with wings" is just a moth. In the adult state, it does not feed. And the bloated mosquito on the wall is a mosquito. Imagine, they can co-exist in the same apartment. Given the fact that you were able to "see" the nose and tail of an insect (which they do not have in principle), we can assume that you can not distinguish a mosquito from a moth. This version will be considered the most likely (with a very large margin from any others, such as mosquitoes, an unknown type of blood-sucking insect, or an invasion of alien organisms) until you provide evidence to the contrary in the form of a photo of a blood-pumped butterfly.

04.11.2015 16:14, Айна Живолунова

Dear ENO, I am not an entomologist , but a hairdresser(ladies') and therefore
I cannot correctly describe this creature. But the mosquito buzzes, the moth has a very
peculiar flight, you can't kill it in flight, And this one flies straight, like
an airplane and for a kitchen corner.I looked at the pictures of Crypta thalicri,
one of them is very similar.
R. S. In nature, not such "miracles" are found yet...
Even relict moths ( I wonder if they're blood-sucking)...

04.11.2015 18:49, ИНО

Crypta thalicri is a hefty dustpan, not a 3 - millimeter moth, and is not found in apartments (unless it accidentally flies into the light through an open window). There are really many different wonders found in nature. Here, for example, in the next topic, one girl took acne for parasitic worms. And my own grandmother, in all seriousness, told me that when she was young, some magical toad with claws chased her in the garden and almost broke through the door of the toilet in which she hid from it. But do hairdressers have such a miracle of nature as a digital camera?

Now I Googled this calypta, I thought, maybe I'll find something interesting, about cases of attacks on people, including in my region. But no, the fears of people who previously unsubscribed in this topic came true in the worst case scenario - one of the first links that Google finds leads to here.

04.11.2015 20:51, АЙНА Живолунова

Dear ENO, I want to say that I am an observant and economic woman.
And the fact that you're referring to a psychiatrist is not very polite of you.
Just the same butterfly lives in the house of one of my friends, who
brought it to me, as I understand it, with last year's potatoes from the basement.
By the way, she said that fleas have wings, because she also flies.
And I have it flew out of the box where the second batch of potatoes was lying.
And this butterfly is not a Calypta thalicri moth, but another, but in the pictures
"blood-sucking butterflies" there is a similar one.
If I did, I'm not afraid of them at all, but I love the big ones very much.
They often fly into my apartment on the 6th floor (in common parlance-
peacock's eye". I don't know why insects like my apartment so much, but
the hornet flew in 2 times and bumblebees, and wasps every spring on the balcony, I
feed them fresh jam in the fall.
As I understand it, our discussion is useless and from my point of view
meaningless. All the best to you!I wish you to be less interested in the tabloid
press, and listen to the opinion of the people.
R. S. And by the way, my name is AINA Georgievna.

04.11.2015 20:56, Hierophis

Tinplate =0

04.11.2015 22:21, Andrey Bezborodkin

Dear ENO, I want to say that I am an observant and economic woman.
And the fact that you're referring to a psychiatrist is not very polite of you.
Just the same butterfly lives in the house of one of my friends, who
brought it to me, as I understand it, with last year's potatoes from the basement.
By the way, she said that fleas have wings, because she also flies.
And I have it flew out of the box where the second batch of potatoes was lying.
And this butterfly is not a Calypta thalicri moth, but another, but in the pictures
"blood-sucking butterflies" there is a similar one.
If I did, I'm not afraid of them at all, but I love the big ones very much.
They often fly into my apartment on the 6th floor (in common parlance-
peacock's eye". I don't know why insects like my apartment so much, but
the hornet flew in 2 times and bumblebees, and wasps every spring on the balcony, I
feed them fresh jam in the fall.
As I understand it, our discussion is useless and from my point of view
meaningless. All the best to you!I wish you to be less interested in the tabloid
press, and listen to the opinion of the people.
R. S. And by the way, my name is AINA Georgievna.

Aina Georgievna, what are you offended about? The entomologist wrote you the absolute truth. And he asked me to take a picture of the object biting you. There are no and cannot be in our latitudes lepidoptera (whatever you want to call them-moths , moths, etc.) that pierce the skin of people, except for the scoops of the genus Calyptra. C. thalictri is not a small butterfly (compared to a moth), it is rare in summer, and cases of human "bites" by males of this species are extremely rare. You are most likely bitten by one of the diptera (mosquitoes, midges)-there are many types of them and they look different. But not butterflies (including moths). This is simply not possible.
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04.11.2015 22:57, ИНО


And this butterfly is not a Calypta thalicri moth, but another, but in the pictures
"blood-sucking butterflies" there is a similar one.

Probably, at the request of "Crypta thalicri", there are photos not only of bears, but also of moths, and everything that the journalist's heart desires.

05.11.2015 0:08, AVA

  
.. By the way, she said that fleas have wings, because she also flies..
..


Wow! You can't imagine how many entomologists would give a lot for just one winged flea. It would be a revolution in science - almost a Nobel Prize loomed. rolleyes.gif

05.11.2015 8:01, АЙНА Живолунова

Dear AVA, Just yesterday, this "Winged flea" flew out from
under the box where potatoes are stored and flew behind the kitchen cabinet.
They don't like the light and hide somewhere all the time, all summer I
was bitten by non-buzzing mosquitoes, you only feel the bite and kill
the remains of an insect with your hand and under your fingers.( On the face.)You turn
on the fumigator and they stop biting. Although everyone in our city said
that there are not enough mosquitoes this year. People slept with their windows open.
You entomologists all this is funny ( crazy nonsense) and
only the Nobel Prizes on your mind. And I do not know how to deal with this
infection. Diclofos is missing in the city, so we'll have
to take it from St. Petersburg.
Well, if I find this infection, most likely I'll send the dead
one to some entomological laboratory, if I don't forget...
And a friend said that the flea flies, because this infection
also bit her. And that the butterfly would drink human blood, but in
our latitudes, this is something of a kind of fiction....But THE FACT IS!

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