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Gotica, 11.01.2009 4:18

Dear forumchane, I understand that you are already tired of questions like " who is this?", "what is it?", but if not you , then who else will bring the uneducated to reason (((
I, as a veterinarian and generally a lover of all sorts of living animals, is not so easy to surprise, and cause a feeling of hostility the same. But somehow we came across an insect that caused me both of these feelings at once.
It was in the last days of August, my husband and I went to the village for mushrooms ( 160 km from St. Petersburg, north direction). At the edge of the forest, we were attacked by strange "flies" (as my husband called them). I fully understand that my clumsy explanation will seem ridiculous, but I will try. Quite large, slightly larger than a normal fly, dark brown in color,the body is flattened, broad, smooth, strong enough, the wings are webbed( if I'm not mistaken in the terminology - like flies), the legs are wide - very prehensile,quite massive, 6 pieces, have a head, chest and abdomen - short and rounded, on the back of the head, chest and abdomen. the head has impressive mandibles. Based on their behavior, I came to the conclusion that they are blood-sucking( perhaps mistakenly, but there are simply no other options). No repellents saved us from them, we have two boxer dogs, I spent a very long time picking these insects out of the dog's hair, which was very difficult, since they are flat and very tenacious. The dogs were covered in drops and wore tick collars.I also noticed that in the hair of the dogs they were already without wings. That is, they need these very wings only to achieve their goal? Sitting on the dogs, they very quickly crawled into the skin with the air of professionals. Moreover, when my husband and I came home, we took off a bunch of these insects, although we were packed to the fullest (since that area was very unfavorable in terms of ticks), the bulk was pulled out of our heads, but these "animals" were also located in places more strange under our clothes. My husband offered to take a picture , but I was determined not to do photo shoots( which I now regret). Perhaps my description will remind someone what kind of animal it is and how to escape from it. Since we have mushroom places, and remembering these "terrorists", I really don't want to go there in the summer. I would be very grateful if someone has any options.

This post was edited by Gotica - 11.01.2009 04: 55

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11.01.2009 4:28, Gotica

Oh, I forgot to write that these "animals" sat on the face, where a thick layer of mosquito repellent cream was smeared - I was in hysterics smeared and they were "purple" on this cream.

11.01.2009 7:30, Vlad Proklov

Dear forumchane, I understand that you are already tired of questions like " who is this?", "what is it?", but if not you , then who else will bring the uneducated to reason (((
I, as a veterinarian and generally a lover of all sorts of living animals, is not so easy to surprise, and cause a feeling of hostility the same. But somehow we came across an insect that caused me both of these feelings at once.

Blood-sucking flies (family Hippoboscidae). The popular name is elk louse.
They fly in, sit down, and take off their wings, hoping to spend the rest of their days warm and near food smile.gif

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11.01.2009 13:30, Gotica

kotbegemot, thank you very much. I've heard something like this, unfortunately, my work experience has not encountered these animals, and I don't remember that in the course of training, something like this was passed, fleas, ticks, etc.- yes, but these are not. Yes, and just in the literature and the Internet, I did not come across them, although the name "moose louse" is really not new.... That's how the terrible beast turned out to be banally ordinary )))
If only you could tell me how to get rid of them and what they are sensitive to, otherwise my mushrooms will probably remain in the forest.

This post was edited by Gotica - 11.01.2009 13: 40

11.01.2009 13:42, Букашечник

Here is an article, described in some detail about it.

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11.01.2009 13:50, Gotica

Oops! But Melophagus ovinus-is it from the same family? For some reason, everything gave me no rest and I had to open a textbook on parasitology, but initially they are wingless, there is also something similar in other animals, but the main bias is on sheep, since it causes the most trouble. Although outwardly it does not look at all like a moose louse.( oh, I should have spent more time on animal husbandry)

11.01.2009 13:51, Gotica

Bukashechnik, thank you very much!

11.01.2009 14:35, Alexandr Rusinov

So it turns out that these creatures not only poison life, but also carry mad.gifboreliosis Few ticks, and now you need to be scared of these ticks... In general, bloodsuckers seem to be adapting to human nutrition. When they appeared in our region in the 70s, they climbed on people in large numbers, but they never bit, only ran around in their hair and under their clothes. And now you just gape and it's ready - they're already eating you... So it's probably going to get even worse...

11.01.2009 15:03, amara

So it turns out that these creatures not only poison life, but also carry mad.gifboreliosis Few ticks, and now you need to be scared of these ticks... In general, bloodsuckers seem to be adapting to human nutrition. When they appeared in our region in the 70s, they climbed on people in large numbers, but they never bit, only ran around in their hair and under their clothes. And now you just gape and it's ready - they're already eating you... So it's probably going to get even worse...


Both in Moscow (Losino-Ostrovsky Park) and in the Moscow region, there are especially many of them in August and September, I take them off every 10 minutes when I go deeper into the forest (and especially if you go not straight ahead, but along the moose trails). Sometimes I even brought it home, it was untidy of course, but I wasn't bitten yet.

11.01.2009 15:31, Alexandr Rusinov

And here, for a trip to the forest in August-September, you can get up to a dozen bites (the number depends on the efficiency when catching bloodsuckers)

11.01.2009 15:40, amara

Yes, indeed, I did not let them stay too long. My head is covered with a baseball cap, but in the beard they like to land like the most.

11.01.2009 16:09, Victor Titov

I've never been bitten by bloodsuckers confused.gif. Unpleasant sensations are associated only with their swarming in the hair.

11.01.2009 16:20, Alexandr Rusinov

Well, I don't know, maybe they are so angry only near my dacha in the Tutaevsky district... Apparently an elite especially biting breed is formed here wink.gif
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11.01.2009 16:32, Victor Titov

Or maybe I'm just so inedible. wink.gif

11.01.2009 16:35, omar

I've been bitten.

11.01.2009 18:36, Victor Titov

I've been bitten.

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11.01.2009 23:08, Мих

And I was bitten) Summer in Irpen..

12.01.2009 11:03, okoem

In the Crimea, they bite, but not often and not all, but mostly some small variety.

12.01.2009 14:49, RippeR

and they've sat on me many times, but they've never bitten me yet, so I detect and destroy them very quickly, they just don't have smile.giftime

16.01.2009 11:24, Raptor

And once I met a fly,well, just exactly, an ordinary house fly.But only the proboscis is pointed and the reptile bites.While I was combing it out among the usual flies, I suffered for an hour!

16.01.2009 11:35, Tigran Oganesov

And once I met a fly,well, just exactly, an ordinary house fly.But only the proboscis is pointed and the reptile bites.While I was combing it out among the usual flies, I suffered for an hour!

Zhigalka is, the genus Stomoxys

16.01.2009 13:21, RippeR

Ah, I met a couple of them, but they didn't bite me, although I was afraid of their strange elongated proboscis.

16.01.2009 17:08, Tigran Oganesov

correctly feared, they are bloodsuckers smile.gif

21.01.2009 23:33, Мих

and my hand still hurt for a month after the bite...I was afraid they didn't put something there for me?

28.01.2009 17:23, Potekhin

In the Crimea, they bite, but not often and not all, but mostly some small variety.

I remember-I remember the old school holidays near Kerch...
Family Simuliidae http://www.myrmecos.net/insects/Simuliid1.html
MIDGES (DIPTERA, SIMULIIDAE) OF THE SOUTH-EAST OF UKRAINE
http://www.zin.ru/conferences/blsuck1/Tezisy_htm/Usova.htm

12.11.2011 22:02, Vikkashey

I've been collecting butterflies for years,
so please tell me if anyone knows:
somewhere in early August, I went to the forest for firewood
and it was only necessary to make a noise to scare off several
Catocala fraxini from just one tree,
which in our area I have never seen in 8 years
this phenomenon was observed during their summer in Konakovsky mkhu

12.11.2011 22:53, swerig

I've been collecting butterflies for years,
so please tell me if anyone knows:
somewhere in early August, I went to the forest for firewood
and it was only necessary to make a noise to scare off several
Catocala fraxini from just one tree,
which in our area I have never seen in 8 years
this phenomenon was observed during their summer in Konakovsky moss

In Konakovsky moss and not like this happens

12.11.2011 23:39, Vlad Proklov

Konakovsky moss fence, even as!
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