Records sizes

How do I understand "what should I do"?
The rhinoceros beetle will never reach the size of a cow, it is not supposed to.

I think we are referring to the maximum recorded linear dimensions of specific species (genera, families, orders?)in a given area..
The task is too broad. Measurement ranges are usually published in taxonomic papers and determinants.

This post was edited by Dracus - 16.01.2012 16: 05

See the book in Czech by J. Mares & V.Lapacek "Nejkrasnejsi brouci tropu", 1980. There is a lot about abnormally large beetles (in my opinion, not without exaggeration).

There is a similar topic here http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...ded&pid=1230012

Well, collectible specimens of specific beetles of super-large sizes.
For example, deer beetles are most often from 40-80 mm, but there are also 90

See the book in Czech by J. Mares & V.Lapacek "Nejkrasnejsi brouci tropu", 1980. There is a lot about abnormally large beetles (in my opinion, not without exaggeration).

There is a similar topic here http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...ded&pid=1230012

thank you.

And developing a subject where you can read about the most expensive/rare / extinct insects.
Which are now extremely difficult to find.
I've already read about Xixuthrus heros.

This post was edited by Cloyster - 17.01.2012 17: 49

And developing a subject where you can read about the most expensive/rare / extinct insects.
Which are now extremely difficult to find.
I've already read about Xixuthrus heros.

you can read about extinct insects in this thread http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=487815

Hardly anyone will tell you about the rarest insects, because no one knows how many insects of any kind are left in the world.

I found what I was looking for.
Mb who will be interested.

Dynastidae

1) Dynastes hercules (hercules: max. 172 mm, Yoshida; 167.7 mm; 150 grams);
2) Dynastes neptunus (neptunus: max. 160 mm, Lachaume; 147.6 mm; 130 grams);
3) Megasoma mars (max. 140 mm, Nagai; 132.7 mm);
4) Megasoma elephas (elephas: max. 137 mm, Williams; 130.9 mm; 155 grams);
5) Megasoma actaeon (max. 135 mm, Williams; 127.8 mm; 210 grams);
6) Chalcosoma chiron (janssensi: max. 133 mm, Nagai; 117.0 mm; 118 grams);
7) Megasoma gyas (gyas: max. 120 mm, Lachaume);
8) Dynastes satanas (max. 115 mm, Lachaume; 114.3 mm; 100+ grams);
9) Chalcosoma moellenkampi (max. 112 mm, Nagai; 98.4 mm); and
10) Chalcosoma atlas (hesperus: max. 108 mm, Nagai; 103.6 mm; 77 grams)

Lucanidae

1) Prosopocoilus giraffa (keisukei: max. 124 mm, Nishiyama; 119.4 mm; 62 grams);
2) Hexarthrius mandibularis (sumatranus: max. 118.5 mm, Komori; 111.6 mm; 39 grams);
3) Dorcus titanus (palawanicus: max. 111.3 mm, Fujita; 111.0 mm; 68 grams);
4) Cyclommatus elaphus (max. 109.0 mm, Komori; 92.6 mm);
5) Hexarthrius rhinoceros (chaudoiri.: max. 109.0 mm, Fujita; 101.4 mm; 34 grams);
6) Prosopocoilus confucius (max. 107.9 mm, Fujita; 106.9 mm; 34 grams);
7) Odontolabis dalmanni (intermedia: max. 106.0 mm, Fujita; 99.8 mm; 50 grams);
8) Odontolabis burmeisteri (max. 105.0 mm, Fujita; 109.2 mm; 57 grams);
9) Odontolabis alces (max. 104.3 mm, Fujita; 91.5 mm; 59 grams);
10) Dorcus alcides (max. 102.0 mm, Fujita; 98.3 mm; 42 grams);
11) Lucanus cerves (judaicus: max. 100.2 mm, Fujita; 99.3 mm; 37 grams); and
12) Cyclommatus metallifer (metallifer: max. 100.0 mm, Fujita; 95.8 mm; 13 grams)

Carabidae

Mormolyce phyllodes 101mm Beccaloni 2006

Cerambycidae

Acanthophorus serraticornis 115mm Ghate, Gambhir & Rane 2004
Callipogon armillatus 130mm?
Callipogon senex 110mm?
Ctenoscelis coeus 120mm?
Macrodontia cervicornis 172mm Nishiyama 2002
Macrodontia dejeani 122mm Bleuzen 1994
Macrodontia batesi 101.5mm Bleuzen 1994
Macrophysis luzona 105mm+?
Macrotoma luzorum 103.5mm Holotype in Natural History Museum, London
Rhaphipodus hopei 100mm?
Titanus giganteus 167mm Bleuzen 1994
Xixuthrus microcerus 120mm+?
Xixuthrus heros 150mm Yanega 2006
Xixuthrus terribilis 138mm Specimen in Natural History Museum, London

Cetoninae

Goliathus cacicus 100mm Lachaume 1983
Goliathus goliatus 110mm Lachaume 1983
Goliahtus orientalis 100mm Lachaume 1983
Goliahtus regius 110mm Lachaume 1983

This post was edited by Cloyster-03.02.2012 06: 16

It is strange that the macrodontia is indicated 172 mm.
And Titan is 167.
if this is true, then it shares the top 1 in the world in size with Hercules.

  
11) Lucanus cerves (judaicus: max. 100.2 mm, Fujita; 99.3 mm; 37 grams); and

Wow. Deer beetle 10 cm

  
if this is true, it means that she shares the top 1 in the world in terms of size with Hercules.

You can believe this if you only see such macrodontia with your own eyes.

I found what I was looking for.
Mb who will be interested.

Well, what can I say?.. It looks very unsubstantiated. There is no exact label data, and there are no surnames of collectors... That way, any list from "balda" will be compiled at its discretion. Although, if desired, the labels can be fantasized (one of the reasons why I do not buy material through the network).

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And what does this change? An authoritative source?
In short, even if I'm bubbling, you're still blablabla...

You probably haven't read the text.
However, an authoritative source is a purely subjective concept.
And you can fake labels, and exaggerate the size, and the ZOG does not sleep )))))

You probably haven't read the text.

Do you judge by yourself? You don't have to answer. And in general, Hierophis, I suggest you finish this dialogue. I've spoken, and so have you.

Dmitry, I hesitate to ask, what sources do you consider authoritative? Do the names Lachaume, Bleuzen, and Nagai mean anything to you?

Dmitry, I hesitate to ask, what sources do you consider authoritative? Do the names Lachaume, Bleuzen, and Nagai mean anything to you?

These names are only mentioned on the specified site, and the information provided does not come directly from Lachaume, Bleuzen, Nagai and others like them. It is possible that instances of beetles with the specified size were recorded. However, no convincing evidence has been provided. You can refer to any authorities, but it will sound authoritative only when the information comes from the authorities themselves. And so the principle of "damaged phone" is not excluded.

These are scientists, authors of books that specify these dimensions.

These are scientists, authors of books that specify these dimensions.

Thank you, I know. In the "Hooter" wrote . Do the site have links to these books (in electronic form)? Have you ever held these books in your hands? Have you read it? If so, I'll take your word for it. But to this site (with such a submission of information) - sorry, I can't.

This post was edited by Dmitrich - 02/04/2012 18: 05

Here about 40-meter anacondas, too, have long been repeated. And they refer to sources - here, for example: http://www.fund-intent.ru/Document/Show/4928 . What's the real deal? Even the widely accepted maximum length of an anaconda - 11 meters 43 cm-was not properly documented. Something similar happens with beetles. Of course, I also want to believe, but... Facts come first.

Thank you, I know. In the "Hooter" wrote . Do the site have links to these books (in electronic form)? Have you ever held these books in your hands? Have you read it? If so, I'll take your word for it. But to this site (with such a submission of information) - sorry, I can't.

I've read it, so believe me
In electronic form, these books may not be available on the web, and this is piracy, like.

There are no links on the specified site. A reference to the journal, without a specific article and its output data, is not a link. Moreover, there is not even any data about the site author - I found one nickname (Hello. My name is Kay). So, before providing normal links, you don't have to worry about all this data. There are none for science.

Have you ever held these books in your hands? Have you read it? If so, I'll take your word for it.

I've read it, so believe me

As promised, I believe you. The fact that you not only held these books in your hands, but also read them . But I can't believe the information contained in these books. The reasons are given by me above (see my post about the anaconda), and also here:

There are no links on the specified site. A reference to the journal, without a specific article and its output data, is not a link. Moreover, there is not even any data about the site author - I found one nickname (Hello. My name is Kay). So, before providing normal links, you don't have to worry about all this data. There are none for science.

Dmitrich, I'm sorry that I embarrassed you again with my ignoble writing, but I dare to dare, and suggest - they would just write "Amen" under the quote Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg, briefly, succinctly, concisely!

Dmitrich, I'm sorry that I embarrassed you again with my ignoble writing, but I dare to dare, and suggest - they would just write "Amen" under the quote Zlopastnyi Brandashmyg, briefly, succinctly, concisely!

Thank you for your advice. I don't feel any embarrassment. As well as the need for an editor for your writing.

Here is a macrodontia of 167 mm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CERAMBYCIDAE-MASSI...4#ht_500wt_1413
wikipedia says that the record is 165

it's time to update the article.

Most likely, record sizes have not yet been caught and acc. not recorded in the annals!

Here is a macrodontia of 167 mm
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CERAMBYCIDAE-MASSI...4#ht_500wt_1413
wikipedia says that a record 165
is time to update the article.

http://youtu.be/kCtDwnqSwwc

Illustration from the book "The Prionids of the Neotropic region"by Ivo Jenis.

and what is the biggest predator among insects?

Probably one of the mantises

I thought it was a tropical grasshopper

What does big mean? By linear dimensions or by mass?

Titanoptera? An extinct order, Carboniferous-Triassic. Up to 40 cm in wingspan. They lived, according to available data, on vegetation, ambush predators. Probably ecological analogs of mantises-dybok.

no, I mean the length.. and why take the extinct ones? then in general, dragonflies up to 70 cm in span were.. I ask about modern ones

There are interesting tropical grasshoppers, really large and predatory, but not quite record-breaking. Some of the most pleasant ones are Copiphora.

and what is the biggest predator among insects?

Giant praying mantis (Ischnomantis gigas) from Africa. The body length of an adult female reaches 17 cm

Giant praying mantis (Ischnomantis gigas) from Africa. The body length of an adult female reaches 17 cm.

As you can see in the photo, it reaches this value due to a very long anal plate. Currently, it seems that the record holder should be recognized Toxodera maxima Roy, 2009 from mainland Malaysia, whose females reach the same 17 cm without such "extensions".

Pictures:

Toxodera_maxima.jpg — (208.05к)

As you can see in the photo, it reaches this value due to a very long anal plate. Currently, it seems that the record holder should be recognized Toxodera maxima Roy, 2009 from mainland Malaysia, whose females reach the same 17 cm without such "extensions".

And where does the data that Toxodera maxima reaches 17 cm come from?