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Identification of Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants)

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07.07.2011 9:50, AVA

I think this is a female Ectemnius ruficornis Zett, before that I had only caught a male.
The middle part of the platband is straight cut, the sides are quite strong teeth, bent to the sides. The 3rd chl is 3 times longer than the width. The hairs on the architrave are golden. On the mid-spine, the dotted line is thick, in the posterior half it passes in places into longitudinal wrinkles. The gap.the segment is longitudinally striated, the sides of the chest are also longitudinally striated. The tergites of the abdomen are weakly and gently dotted.


Female Ectemnius ruficornis (Zetterstedt, 1838).
The most reliable difference between females of this species and the rest of our species is the shape of the medial blade of the platypus. Only in the female E. ruficornis, the lateral teeth of the medial lobe are directed not obliquely downwards, but almost exactly to the sides.

07.07.2011 9:55, AVA

by the color of the abdomen, you can tell what kind of scolia, not hirta? I was caught in the south. Met once in the mass on cereals crawled, forest glade


Most likely, it is S. hirta, although with an atypical color of the 2nd tergite. Usually on 2-3 tergites in this species there are solid yellow bandages, but in a number of color forms on the 2nd tergite, the band may break, and two spots remain from it.
But for a more precise definition, other signs are still needed, mainly related to the sculpture of the body.

07.07.2011 10:56, akulich-sibiria

and by what determinant is it better to banish it?? This color of the abdomen was in all individuals, so I caught only 3))))

07.07.2011 12:45, AVA

and by what determinant is it better to banish it?? This color of the abdomen was in all individuals, so I caught only 3))))


Our fauna is most widely covered only in the old work of D. M. Steinberg [Sem. Scoliidae in kn. Fauna of the USSR, Insects of Hymenoptera, Volume XIII. 1962. 186 p.]. Since then, no one has been closely involved in scolias, and all subsequent keys are almost identical, since they are based on the Fauna.
As far as I know, foreigners didn't touch our fauna either.

07.07.2011 18:30, akulich-sibiria

Unfortunately, I do not have this volume, I will look at the Institute of lesa

07.07.2011 18:42, алекс 2611

Unfortunately, I don't have this volume, so I'll check it out at the Forest Institute


But it won't work in electronic form? The Flora and Fauna Library
has this book.

07.07.2011 23:57, Liparus

Help me determine the OS. Caught 02-03. VII. 2011. A. R. Crimea, Saki district, 17 km From Yevpatoria, outskirts of the village. Vitino.

In No. 1, the wings are reduced to short appendages.

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08.07.2011 8:58, Spaniot

help determine the ant
's location of the shooting MO Sergiev Posad. Bageli on the peony buds, apparently some kind of garden companion, but judging by the color definitely not black garden..
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08.07.2011 20:55, Bad Den

well, I don't know, everything is simple for me, it turns out on the lamp right outside....I really don't know why such a green shade is needed at all, it's very inconvenient, cloudy and the color is different, although it may protect you from something confused.gif

Ah, got it.
I thought this filter is screwed on the lens somewhere)

08.07.2011 22:49, алекс 2611

help determine the ant
's location of the shooting MO Sergiev Posad. Bageli on the peony buds, apparently some kind of garden companion, but judging by the color definitely not black garden..
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Myrmica sp. sky

09.07.2011 0:43, Fornax13

11.07.2011 10:52, С Олег

Please help me determine the OS.

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11.07.2011 14:07, OEV

All three if I'm not mistaken Cerceris quadrifasciata
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11.07.2011 19:38, С Олег

Bombus pascuorum?

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11.07.2011 19:43, С Олег

Please identify the bee.

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12.07.2011 17:19, barko

Please identify this builder. Hungary, July.

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12.07.2011 18:09, AVA

Please identify this builder. Hungary, July.


Female burrowing wasp Sceliphron destillatorium (Illiger, 1807) (Sphecidae, Sceliphrinae)
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14.07.2011 13:24, akulich-sibiria

I understand this is Ectemnius fossorius L female. 17 mm. 3-chl. its length is 3 times greater than the width. The front corners of the pronotum are sharp, raised. On the anterior edge of the midspine, transverse hatching, then clearly in the longitudinal. Before that, I only had a male
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14.07.2011 15:01, AVA

I understand this is Ectemnius fossorius L female. 17 mm. 3-chl. its length is 3 times greater than the width. The front corners of the pronotum are sharp, raised. On the anterior edge of the midspine, transverse hatching, then clearly in the longitudinal. Before that, I only had a male


In the top ten - it is. smile.gif And the "beak" on the trim.
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16.07.2011 21:14, С Олег

Please tell me what kind of bumblebee. Tatarstan, Neb. Naberezhnye Chelny. 16.07.2011.

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18.07.2011 11:10, Mantispid

Saratov region, Burkin Buerak, 17. VII. 2011
On umbrella flowers

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18.07.2011 13:07, akulich-sibiria

I think it's a Prosopis sp bee or something close
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18.07.2011 14:30, AVA

I think it's a Prosopis sp bee or something close


Everything is correct if the "green" determinant is used. But the generic name Prosopis Fabricius, 1804 is a junior synonym for the generic name Hylaeus Fabricius, 1793.
This is a male, but it is difficult to determine his appearance... rolleyes.gif
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18.07.2011 14:38, Mantispid

Everything is correct if the "green" determinant is used. But the generic name Prosopis Fabricius, 1804 is a junior synonym for the generic name Hylaeus Fabricius, 1793.
This is a male, but it is difficult to determine his appearance... rolleyes.gif

Thanks! But why is it difficult? In the "green" only 3 species with such a scapus-annularis, euryscapus and rinki

18.07.2011 15:32, AVA

Thanks! But why is it difficult? In the "green" only 3 species with such a scapus-annularis, euryscapus and rinki


The wave may be true, but there are no guarantees. The keys for most bees and wasps in the" green "determinant are ungodly "outdated". More precisely, they include a very limited number of species. Remember that this is still the 1978 year of publication, and the manuscripts were prepared much earlier. Finally, we have never had any domestic specialists in this field. Unfortunately... shuffle.gif
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18.07.2011 20:36, Mantispid

Saratov region, Burkin Buerak, 17. VII. 2011
On umbrella flowers. Blestyanka - on the trunk of a dry tree.

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18.07.2011 21:28, алекс 2611

Saratov region, Burkin Buerak, 17. VII. 2011
On umbrella flowers. Blestyanka - on the trunk of a dry tree.


The second wasp is Tiphia sp.
Probably Tiphia femorata Fabricius, 1775

well, the first one, of course, is Cerceris sp.
I hope that before the view will help

19.07.2011 3:05, Guest

I am at work, I think the first one is Cerceris arenaria (Linnaeus, 1758)
yes, 2 is definitely Tiphia sp, I have two species we have caught.

19.07.2011 9:45, AVA

Saratov region, Burkin Buerak, 17. VII. 2011
On umbrella flowers. Blestyanka - on the trunk of a dry tree.


1-Female Cerceris quadricincta (Panzer, 1799)
2-Female Tiphia femorata Fabricius, 1775
3-Chrysis obtusidens Dufour et Perris, 1840. But this is assumed, since many signs are simply not visible.
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19.07.2011 12:49, Mantispid

19.07.2011 15:07, AVA

Thank you very much!
As for the signs , I'm not an expert on hymenoptera, I just catch them, so I don't know what to look for or where to look. About spangles I heard that teeth on the abdomen are necessary, so I photographed them. What else do I need to clarify? Side view? In principle, it is not difficult for me, I can take pictures from any angle....


I went through the signs again. I don't think you need to remove anything extra. Doubtful signs overlap with those that are quite clearly visible. So, everything is correct (95 percent, since I did not see the typewink.gif) .
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19.07.2011 20:07, Коллекционер

and I saw in this topic a photo of an insect and its wings being laid out, what is the wing for?
can you just post an insect insect?

19.07.2011 20:32, Вишняков Алексей

The venation of the wings determines whether they belong to a particular species, genus, or sometimes family. Identifying hymenoptera from photographs is very problematic (with the exception of well-known and easily identified species), and this is why photos of the necessary angles are posted.

19.07.2011 21:23, Коллекционер

thank you for the information, and who is this? what kind of sawfly in my
opinion need to spread his wing?
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Today I went for a walk in the forest, found 5 pieces, dead, battered by ants, Voronezh
on the right, the abdomen is more brown, just the photo does not turn out good on my soap dish..

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19.07.2011 22:14, Вишняков Алексей

Sergey, yes, this is some kind of cimbex.
In a good way, you should try to determine for yourself. First, download the "Green Determinant"on the Internet. This is a very difficult task, but at least you will understand what to pay attention to when determining. So sometimes just a photo of an insect isn't enough. Read, study, and over time you will not only be able to figure it out for yourself, but also help others with the definition.

19.07.2011 22:21, Коллекционер

or you can poke your nose, otherwise I can hardly find information in net wall.gif

19.07.2011 22:31, Вишняков Алексей

Determinant of insects of the European part of the USSR, volume 3, parts 1-6. This is for hymenoptera. It's not a problem to find it on the Internet.
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20.07.2011 14:29, akulich-sibiria

It also seems to be Tiphia femorata F...only the second copy is slightly less than 9 mm. It also seems to be a female. In the beginning, there was an assumption that this is T. ovidorsalis, I could not find a depression on the first segment of the foot, which is characteristic of Tiphia femorata F, well, this is according to the determinant. Her front shins are not black, but dark brown.
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20.07.2011 15:13, AVA

It also seems to be Tiphia femorata F...only the second copy is slightly less than 9 mm. It also seems to be a female. In the beginning, there was an assumption that this is T. ovidorsalis, I could not find a depression on the first segment of the foot, which is characteristic of Tiphia femorata F, well, this is according to the determinant. Her front shins are not black, but dark brown.


In my opinion, this is also Tiphia femorata. Tiphia ovidorsalis Allen et Jaynes, 1930 is a species mainly from southeast Asia. We have it found in the Far East.
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22.07.2011 16:40, akulich-sibiria

is this all Polistes nimpha?b
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Ancistrocerus antilope
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