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Identification of Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants)

Community and ForumInsects identificationIdentification of Hymenoptera (wasps, bees, ants)

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16.04.2012 14:19, Guest

He's not an astronaut, by any chance?" It looks like he was filming from an orbital station... wink.gif

16.04.2012 18:24, oksnagry

Sorry, but the equipment did not allow it to fall below this orbit. But using scissors from Photoshop, we got this result.

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16.04.2012 19:51, Кархарот

Sorry, but the equipment did not allow it to fall below this orbit. But using scissors from Photoshop, we got this result.

1 - male Halictus.
2, 3 - most likely, Bombus terrestris.
4-Philanthus triangulum, Apis mellifera.
5, 6-some Anthophora.
7-Bombus, kind of hard to say.
8-Ammophila sabulosa.
9, 10-female Megachile, the species is difficult to say.
11, 12 - some kind of Andrena.
13-this is generally a babbling fly (Syrphidae).
14 - most likely Bombus lapidarius.

This post was edited by Carcharot - 04/16/2012 19: 52
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17.04.2012 10:47, oksnagry

Thank you, I didn't think they could be identified so quickly. In insects, what is important to shoot to determine?

17.04.2012 13:27, Mantispid

Thank you, I didn't think they could be identified so quickly. In insects, what is important to shoot to determine?

genitalia wink.gif

17.04.2012 13:49, vasiliy-feoktistov

the genitals wink.gif



the genitals wink.gif

Let me clarify: the" genital " of the male shuffle.gifis of primary importance smile.gifAnd not otherwise umnik.gif

18.04.2012 6:16, алекс 2611

Thank you, I didn't think they could be identified so quickly. In insects, what is important to shoot to determine?

Not bad when you can see the wing venation.

22.04.2012 8:06, ichnfly

HOW?! HOW DID YOU MANAGE TO STRAIGHTEN IT SO THAT THE OVIPOSITOR DOES NOT BEND??


In xylobiont parasite riders with a long ovipositor, when mounting, the ovipositor and its
sheath are tied with human hair in several places. In this case, when drying, the scabbard does not twist.
This is for ex. scientific collections.
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22.04.2012 11:23, ichnfly

Gentlemen, good afternoon. Please tell me where to find good diagrams with a detailed structure of the body of hymenoptera, where all the details would be clearly shown.

Ichneumon riders: english: http://tereshkin.info/39.pdf
russian text: http://tereshkin.info/40.pdf

22.04.2012 17:44, D.E.

Hello!
I have a small polysadnik on the loggia, in which some wasps have settled for several years. Every year there are more and more of them. They live in the ground in burrows, which are closed before the rain and at night. I live in Kazan (Republic of Tatarstan). Tell me what the name of the wasp is so that I can find out if it is worth fighting it and how.
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22.04.2012 17:57, Mantispid

In xylobiont parasite riders with a long ovipositor, when mounting, the ovipositor and its
sheath are tied with human hair in several places. In this case, when drying, the scabbard does not twist.
This is for ex. scientific collections.

And where to get a human hair? confused.gif

22.04.2012 17:59, Anax chernobila

Please help me identify bumblebees. mo. Are there any other species with this color?

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22.04.2012 20:17, Кархарот

Hello!
I have a small polysadnik on the loggia, in which some wasps have settled for several years. Every year there are more and more of them. They live in the ground in burrows, which are closed before the rain and at night. I live in Kazan (Republic of Tatarstan). Tell me what the name of the wasp is so that I can find out if it is worth fighting it and how.

These are not wasps, but bees, and different ones at that. In the upper photo, it looks like the genus Evylaeus (family Halictidae), in the next Andrena, and in the lower three also Evylaeus, but it looks like a different species.
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22.04.2012 22:56, алекс 2611

These are not wasps, but bees, and different ones at that. In the upper photo, it looks like the genus Evylaeus (family Halictidae), in the next Andrena, and in the lower three also Evylaeus, but it looks like a different species.

I would probably venture to call the latter Halictus tumulorum.....
Or stupid?

22.04.2012 22:57, алекс 2611

Hello!
I have a small polysadnik on the loggia, in which some wasps have settled for several years. Every year there are more and more of them. They live in the ground in burrows, which are closed before the rain and at night. I live in Kazan (Republic of Tatarstan). Tell me what the name of the wasp is so that I can find out if it is worth fighting it and how.


And to be honest, I didn't understand, what's the point of fighting them? A small colony of small bees. No harm except use

22.04.2012 23:20, D.E.

And to be honest, I didn't understand, what's the point of fighting them? A small colony of small bees. No harm except good

Well, I thought that wasps, and who knows how it all ends. And the bees are probably fine. True, except for flowers.

Thank you all for your help!

22.04.2012 23:50, алекс 2611

Well, I thought that wasps, and who knows how it all ends. And the bees are probably fine. True, except for flowers.

Thank you all for your help!

That's right, it's good for flowers. And they are unlikely to harm you - single bees are not aggressive.

23.04.2012 12:00, Entomon

Found on 23.04,~ 8: 00 in a puddle under a willow tree. I was surprised by the lack of a sting!!!picture: IMG_2893.JPG

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23.04.2012 12:11, vasiliy-feoktistov

Found on 23.04,~ 8: 00 in a puddle under a willow tree. I was surprised by the lack of a sting!!!

A sawfly of some kind, and therefore there is no sting.

23.04.2012 13:40, ichnfly

Found on 23.04,~ 8: 00 in a puddle under a willow tree. I was surprised by the lack of a sting!!!picture: IMG_2893.JPG

Cimbex sp. (Cimbicinae) can birch?

23.04.2012 13:45, Entomon

Cimbex sp. (Cimbicinae) can birch?

Not on

23.04.2012 13:46, Coelioxys

Please consider the sting that disappeared in a puddle under a willow tree invalid.

Sawyer.
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23.04.2012 13:47, vasiliy-feoktistov

Cimbex sp. (Cimbicinae) can birch?

Anyone, but not the "Birch" Cimbex femoratus (Linnaeus, 1758).

23.04.2012 15:11, Entomon

Something's wrong with him, is he getting fatter?picture: IMG_2900.JPG

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23.04.2012 19:21, Кархарот

I would probably venture to call the latter Halictus tumulorum.....
Or stupid?

Honestly, I don't know. But in my opinion, tumulorum has a slightly different pubescence (or it has been erased...) .

23.04.2012 19:23, алекс 2611

Honestly, I don't know. But in my opinion, tumulorum has a slightly different pubescence (or it has been erased...).

yeah, I fucked up.....

23.04.2012 20:50, apismen

21.04.12 Kaluga region
Output of red osmium males?

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23.04.2012 22:18, IchMan

Found on 23.04,~ 8: 00 in a puddle under a willow tree. I was surprised by the lack of a sting!!!

Something out of the ordinary from the Cimbicidae... confused.gifand this size...
Can I have a bigger head (on top) and a full-face muzzle?

23.04.2012 22:43, Pirx

Sorry, but the equipment did not allow it to fall below this orbit. But using scissors from Photoshop, we got this result.


13-Male sirfid fly Helophilus trivittatus

24.04.2012 18:52, Anax chernobila

So what about the bumblebees?

24.04.2012 19:36, vasiliy-feoktistov

So what about the bumblebees?

So, who are you talking to? Do we owe you anything here?" lol.gif

24.04.2012 23:24, алекс 2611

So what about the bumblebees?

The first one is probably Bombus lapidarius.
the second I will not risk
for my taste bumblebees on the photo created not very reasonable occupation.

25.04.2012 12:12, akulich-sibiria

The first one is probably Bombus lapidarius.
the second I will not risk
for my taste bumblebees on the photo created not very reasonable occupation.

with copies in my hands, I sometimes come to a dead end. Sometimes it's not the similarity of species that scares me more, but the differences of one species. Bombus pascuorum, for example. I have such sometimes different in appearance instances. I would never have thought that this is one species, but it's good that all of them are confirmed
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25.04.2012 16:15, Shapik

Is there anything to say about this sawfly?Caught in Simferopol on 20.04.2012

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25.04.2012 16:26, OEV

Is there anything to say about this sawfly?Caught in Simferopol on 20.04.2012


Possibly Dolerus sp. or a close relative shuffle.gif
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26.04.2012 11:03, DronT

  Ichneumon riders: english: http://tereshkin.info/39.pdf
russian text: http://tereshkin.info/40.pdf


Thanks !

26.04.2012 11:10, DronT

The first one is probably Bombus lapidarius.
the second I will not risk
for my taste bumblebees on the photo created not very reasonable occupation.


Please tell me, how do you differentiate bumblebees? I, for example, was baffled by the need to count the number of tergites/sternites-the Bumblebee is very hairy, nothing is visible)))

26.04.2012 12:50, akulich-sibiria

it's not the most difficult thing to see a bumblebee. I have difficulties more often in the ratio of segments of the antennae. for example, 3 refers to 4 and 5 as 4.5: 6: 5 it is easy to find such subtle differences sometimes, you need experience and a measuring scale in a microscope. Why do you need to count tergites? male or female?? well, this can be viewed simply by the latest members of the abdomen, and if a fresh copy, then there is no difficulty at all.

26.04.2012 13:51, DronT

it's not the most difficult thing to see a bumblebee. I have difficulties more often in the ratio of segments of the antennae. for example, 3 refers to 4 and 5 as 4.5: 6: 5 it is easy to find such subtle differences sometimes, you need experience and a measuring scale in a microscope. Why do you need to count tergites? male or female?? well, it can be viewed simply by the latest members of the abdomen, and if a fresh copy, then there is no difficulty at all.


There, tergites were needed to differentiate B. terrestris from ... from another, in general, similar one. I don't even dream about a microscope yet.. I have a magnifying glass with 4x magnification, that's all.....

26.04.2012 17:21, алекс 2611

There, tergites were needed to differentiate B. terrestris from ... from another, in general, similar one. I don't even dream about a microscope yet.. I have a magnifying glass with 4x magnification, that's all.....

Species do not differ from each other in the number of tergites. The male differs from the female. Female 6 tergites, male 7. But the male differs from the female in the number of segments of the antennae, for example. And in general, the appearance of a male from a female is not a problem to distinguish.
I absolutely can't understand what problems can arise when recalculating abdominal tergites in such a large object as a bumblebee. Without any problems, I do this with an 8x magnifying glass. Are you sure that you have correctly understood what tergite is?

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