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05.02.2007 22:52, Necrocephalus

Colleagues, has anyone ever come across such an animal?
Caught on August 14, 2003, Nagiezh-Uashkh district, roc. Maikop, Adygea. I searched through the qualifiers and found something similar in a Jacobson named Rhabdorhynchus (=Alcides) karelini. As I understand it, in the south of the European Federation and adjacent friendly CIS countries, you can find three species-karelini, varius, menetriesi (I did not find a description of them). The only thing I found was a dissertation by A. Poiras, which says that for Moldova the genus is quite rare.

Nilson, this is not R. karelini, but something else. R. karelini has a completely different shape, color, etc. Here here you can look at the general view of a beetle from the genus Rhabdorrhynchus (though not karelini). Pay attention to the difference in the body shape of your beetle and the one shown in the photo, as well as the length of the first segment of the antennae in your beetle and in Rhabdorrhynchus - this, by the way, is an important morphological feature for this genus. R. karelini looks decently similar to the usual "tiger" elephant-Cyphocleonus tigrinus.
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06.02.2007 0:50, Bad Den

I have Alcides karelini (identified" on the fly " S. Ovchinnikov) from Kyrgyzstan-very similar to the one in the photo.
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06.02.2007 1:18, RippeR

Larinus immediately reminded me of this.. Only with strange coloring and pubescence.

06.02.2007 9:10, Nilson

Nilson, this is not R. karelini, but something else. R. karelini has a completely different shape, color, etc. Here here you can look at the general view of a beetle from the genus Rhabdorrhynchus (though not karelini). Pay attention to the difference in the body shape of your beetle and the one shown in the photo, as well as the length of the first segment of the antennae in your beetle and in Rhabdorrhynchus - this, by the way, is an important morphological feature for this genus. R. karelini looks decently similar to the usual "tiger" elephant - Cyphocleonus tigrinus.

I could have messed up Rod, of course. Maybe Alcides is still Alcides, but it's not a synonym for Rhabdorhynchus... In short, the only image of something similar that I found is here:
http://www.zin.ru/Animalia/Coleoptera/rus/jacobs53.htm

06.02.2007 11:05, Bad Den

Larinus immediately reminded me of this.. Only with a strange coloring and pubescence.

For Larinus too small smile.gif

06.02.2007 13:02, Necrocephalus

I have Alcides karelini (identified" on the fly " S. Ovchinnikov) from Kyrgyzstan-very similar to the one in the photo.

I don't know about Alcides (it looks like Rhabdorrhynchus and Alcides aren't synonymous), but Rh. karelini doesn't look exactly like the elephant in Nilsson's photo. I have seen this particular species in nature - as I have already said, it resembles Cyphocleonus tigrinus the most out of all the beetles I know-has everyone probably seen it? smile.gif Yes, after all, the description of Rh. karelini (there it goes as Rh. junki) is in the "Insect Identification". parts of the USSR vol.2" and it doesn't match the elephant in the photo in any way.
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06.02.2007 16:14, RippeR

"Too small for Larinus"
what size is this one?

06.02.2007 16:30, KDG

Colleagues, has anyone ever come across such an animal?
Caught on August 14, 2003, Nagiezh-Uashkh district, roc. Maikop, Adygea. I searched through the qualifiers and found something similar in a Jacobson named Rhabdorhynchus (=Alcides) karelini. As I understand it, in the south of the European Federation and adjacent friendly CIS countries, you can find three species-karelini, varius, menetriesi (I did not find a description of them). The only thing I found was a dissertation by A. Poiras, which says that for Moldova the genus is quite rare.

Showed a photo of the SOUTH.Arzanova, he identified as Sternuchopsis karelini Boh., 1844. But I promised to check the collection again.
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06.02.2007 17:14, Nilson

"Too small for Larinus"
what size is this one?

About 3...4 mm

08.02.2007 10:56, amara

Please help me with the elephant. Are these Furcipes by any chance? And with a leaf-eater. Both are from Moscow and about 4-5 mm. The leaf beetle has a head and nadkr. metal.-green (not blue). Thank you very much in advance.

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08.02.2007 11:25, Bad Den

Please help me with the elephant. Are these Furcipes by any chance? And with a leaf-eater. Both are from Moscow and about 4-5 mm. The leaf beetle has a head and nadkr. metal.-green (not blue). Thank you very much in advance.

Leaf beetle is similar to Gastrophysa (=Gastroidea) polygoni (Linnaeus, 1758)

08.02.2007 11:53, amara

Thank you for identifying Bad Den as soon as possible, as always. Does this mean that the legs, unlike the legs, should be meth. green (as in the figure in Reitter)?

08.02.2007 12:21, Dmitry Vlasov

The weevil is similar to Furcipes, while the leaf beetle is almost 100% Gastrophysa (=Gastroidea) polygoni (Linnaeus, 1758). The species is quite variable in color, but as for the color of the legs, I didn't look closely.

08.02.2007 13:36, rpanin

Help me determine! mol.gif
It seems like Geotrupes spiniger ,but it doesn't seem to be it. It's too much of a misnomer. Both width and length (25 mm.) of the Ukrainian Carpathians, north-western part

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08.02.2007 14:21, Victor Titov

Please help me with the elephant. Are these Furcipes by any chance? And with a leaf-eater. Both are from Moscow and about 4-5 mm. The leaf beetle has a head and nadkr. metal.-green (not blue). Thank you very much in advance.

The leaf-eater is definitely Gastrophysa (=Gastroidea) polygoni, and the elephant is Furcipes rectirostris L. By any chance it was collected on bird cherry?

08.02.2007 14:29, Dmitry Vlasov

2rpanin
To identify a dung beetle, you need to know the number of keels on the lower legs of the hind legs and the number of grooves on the elytra. These signs are not visible in the photo... In general, G. spiniger is very similar to G. stercorarius, but brighter...

08.02.2007 14:58, Nimrod

It seems like Geotrupes spiniger ,but it doesn't seem to be it. It's too much of a misnomer. Both width and length (25 mm.) of the Ukrainian Carpathians, north-western part

In general, it is very similar to G. (s.str.) stercorarius(L.), an under-colored specimen. In general, it is necessary to watch it. Don't put it anywhere - it's an interesting case. It is quite possible that this is just such a case of ugliness (as its size may indirectly indicate. Almost all Geotrupinae have an oval, elongated shape, and a round one-Bolboceratinae.....)
Yours sincerely,,........
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08.02.2007 16:55, amara

Thanks to Elizar and Dmitrich. "The question is removed." Both beetles flew in the window at the end of May, but I think there was a cherry tree growing under the window.

09.02.2007 12:02, amara

Can this photo suggest the genus of this Staff? Prsp, in addition to a pair of 4 larger pores, is covered with small (more than 300) and gently pubescent, which (and also in my opinion the notch on the tongue) does not fit Phylonthus. Ocypus? Size 9 - 10 mm. Moscow region
Thank you very much in advance.

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09.02.2007 15:59, Mikhail F. Bagaturov

09.02.2007 16:24, rpanin

[quote=mikepride,09.02.2007 16:29]
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as for me, mine is very similar from the top row-far right. jump.gif

09.02.2007 21:37, Victor Titov

Can this photo suggest the genus of this Staff? Prsp, in addition to a pair of 4 larger pores, is covered with small (more than 300) and gently pubescent, which (and also in my opinion the notch on the tongue) does not fit Phylonthus. Ocypus? Size 9 - 10 mm. Moscow region
Thank you very much in advance.

Determining by photo is not a rewarding task. Look from below at the position of the anterior corners of the pronotum relative to the anterior corners of the pronotum. If the former are located significantly ahead of the latter, and the head is located below on each side with distinct keels, it resembles Quedius.

10.02.2007 2:53, Necrocephalus

2 amara - your Staff definitely doesn't work on Ocypus. But it really looks like Quedius.

10.02.2007 11:16, amara

Thanks to Dmitrich and Necrocephalus. I don't know if this photo will help you?
Now the corrected photo of the beetle is questionable.

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10.02.2007 11:59, stierlyz

Give a better photo from above, if possible a general view and head+prsp. But it doesn't look like Quedius, more like Ocypus fuscatus.

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10.02.2007 17:30, amara

I apologize, but it was my fault that an error occurred, and I placed another beetle (most likely Phylonthus) in the photo below. I'll try to improve tomorrow.

11.02.2007 10:17, amara

Stierlyz, I (teapot-teapot) also think that that staff comes closest to Osuris.
There are no keels on the sides of the head, the prsp is dotted a lot, the posterior part of the probe is flattened. Only here the size (approx. 10 mm) is less than indicated for Staphylinus Pseudocypus fuscatus (from 12 mm?). Here are a couple of photos for you. Thank you for your interest.
I want to add that the head, prsp, and nadkr with bronze-green meth. a glimmer.
I found by the way the keys (to the subgenus) of the entire group of Staphylinus sensu lato with drawings:
http://digitallibrary.amnh.org/dspace/bits...981/1/N3287.pdf

In my opinion, Ocypus fulvipennis confusus Baudi 1848, which is quite rare for the Moscow region, differs from the nominative subspecies by its dark nadkr., legs (and whiskers?). Found it in Reitter, v2, p. 120.

This post was edited by amara - 01.03.2007 16: 42

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12.02.2007 19:44, Aleksandr Ermakov

Who knows what kind of ground beetle it is? Size 4 mm. Northern Urals. Okolovodnik.

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12.02.2007 20:07, omar

It's not entirely clear which ground beetle you want to identify. If under the numbers, then Zufium. If on krtinke below, then some Dromius, or a genus close to it, right now they are seriously divided into several genera, all very similar. Probably Philorizus sigma.
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12.02.2007 20:12, omar

But maybe Demetrias monostigma. You need to watch the penultimate segment of the legs.

12.02.2007 20:26, Aleksandr Ermakov

Thanks! Now I'm going to read the determinant smile.gif
Ps: I will determine the exact same curve as in the picture.Links to Z. olens will be killed, so as not to confuse.

12.02.2007 20:39, Aleksandr Ermakov

Probably Philorizus sigma.

So it is, he. I withdraw the question.

This post was edited by scarabee - 12.02.2007 20: 40

13.02.2007 17:30, amara

As always for help. Is it possible to assume from this photo what kind of animal it is? Size 3 mm. Prsp on the sides is narrowed to a cone. Vlad region on May 30.
Thanks for attention.

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13.02.2007 18:54, guest: ~Дзанат~

Will you look at the signs that Byturus doesn't look like?

13.02.2007 19:18, amara

My beetle is smaller; the mace (seems to be) is not visible and the prsp is of a different shape.

13.02.2007 19:32, guest: ~Дзанат~

Yes, I looked; I have a similar one, I think even the same one, I couldn't identify it and postponed it, I'll try again.

13.02.2007 20:01, amara

Thank you Dzanat.

13.02.2007 21:01, guest: ~Дзанат~

amara do you see the legs of the legs are simple or are the 3rd legs extended into lobes?

14.02.2007 10:24, Dmitry Vlasov

Similar to Cyphon sp.
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14.02.2007 10:41, omar

It seems, yes, as it is afraid to approve this... shuffle.gif

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