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Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

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04.01.2006 23:33, BO.

As for the hawk moth , I would venture to suggest that it is Agrias convolvuli (L.) (bindweed hawk moth)
Caterpillar - I don't know

I looked in the net -very similar in appearance, confuses one thing everywhere they write that the convolvulus hawk moth is a large butterfly 7-10cm. I happened to observe this summer 3 individuals whose size is not used to 4-5cm. Maybe we have a small population ? smile.gif

05.01.2006 18:44, Guest

What is 4-5 cm? If it's from the tips of the wings, then it's really something strange, maybe it's not a bindweed, if it's along the length of the body, then it's just a normal size. Usually, the default meaning of sentences like "Butterfly size 10cm" implies the length of the wingspan.
Have you seen M. stellatarum?

It's definitely a bindweed in the picture.
I don't know whose caterpillar it is, but I should have taken it out.

06.01.2006 15:51, Pavel Morozov

About the caterpillar (and other photos): try to specify the exact date and place of meeting/gathering as much as possible, if the caterpillar is still on what plant it was seen.

07.01.2006 1:12, BO.

About the caterpillar (and other photos): try to specify the exact date and place of meeting/gathering as much as possible, if the caterpillar is still on what plant it was seen.


Help determine
August-Astrakhan region. A butterfly flew into the light, a caterpillar on alfalfa.
The size of the butterfly's body length is ~3-4cm.
Follow the links ,photos of a larger large size

http://photo.bov.com.ru/m_nas/bat/big.php?what=15

http://photo.bov.com.ru/m_nas/bat/big.php?what=14

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07.01.2006 1:28, sealor

Butterfly-Catocala sp. some kind, but the color balance is correct?
Like and not puerpera and not fulmenea.....
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07.01.2006 23:15, Pavel Morozov

the butterfly is more like Catocala nymfagoga.

07.01.2006 23:16, Pavel Morozov

a small correction.
sorry, misspelling - nymphagoga
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08.01.2006 1:30, Bad Den

the butterfly is more like Catocala nymfagoga.

Catocala nymphagoga seems to have a slightly different pattern on the front wings?
http://www.leps.it/SpeciesPages/CatocNymph.htm

although here it seems to be similar:
http://ukmoths.org.uk/images/hires/OakYellowUnderwing.jpg

08.01.2006 12:43, Pavel Morozov

Yes, indeed, it is not easy to determine whether a species belongs to it.
the brightness of the hindwings and the width of the median band resembles C. hymenaea, but it is not suitable for C. conversa, and the structure of the pattern of the forewings is more characteristic of C. nymphagoga. A lighter or less contrasting pattern may be associated with the insect's gender and geographic shape. After all, the butterfly is from the Astrakhan region, and the specimens from www.leps.it and ukmoths that are from Italy and Britain. Maybe a different subspecies, or maybe a different species, more oriental. We need to dig around.
In general, if in doubt, it is better to look at the genitals.

09.01.2006 14:36, Bad Den


In general, if in doubt, it is better to look at the genitals.

I totally agree, but it's not always possible.

In general, I guess we'll focus on C. nymphagoga for now?
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09.01.2006 19:36, Pavel Morozov

Let's focus on it.
by the way, it is quite interesting to arrange such consultations cool.gif

10.01.2006 1:14, BO.

Thank you for C. nymphagoga.
New butterfly for the definition of Butterfly ~2-3cm, taken on September 9.
Sincerely yours, VO.

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10.01.2006 10:50, Bad Den

Jaundice (Colias sp.) from sem. Snow whites (Pieridae)
Good website for yellow eggs-Colias of the World

This post was edited by Bad Den - 10.01.2006 10: 53
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10.01.2006 17:58, Pavel Morozov

about jaundice - Colias erate.

10.01.2006 17:59, Pavel Morozov

Although C. crocea is also suitable.

10.01.2006 23:56, BO.

Thanks for the egg yolk.
In the first picture of Burdock (Cynthia cardui), 9maya is taken, the general background of the wings is yellow. On the second one, the butterfly is the same, only the background of the wings is black, taken on October 13. Is this a species difference, or a sexual one?

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11.01.2006 0:10, Tigran Oganesov

No, they are different butterflies. The first one is really a burdock. But the second one is the admiral (Vanessa atalanta).
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11.01.2006 2:36, Dracus

By the way, where can I read about the Admiral's races and morphs? It is interesting to know the geographical variability of the color of the stripes. And then in Karachay-Cherkessia, for example, I met interesting and large specimens in which the stripes on the front wings were dark red, and on the rear - bright orange.

11.01.2006 23:50, Pavel Morozov

12.01.2006 12:12, Vlad Proklov

I totally agree, but it's not always possible.

In general, I guess we'll focus on C. nymphagoga for now?


According to the general impression, this is still hymenaea.

12.01.2006 12:22, Vlad Proklov

Who is it? Southern Primorye, the coast of the Sea of Japan.
There were other - very large, roughly speaking-flies. My companion was terrified of both, even refusing to get out of the car. For some reason they didn't touch me, I walked calmly. And around the car swarm, sit on the warm hood. A local woman said they bite and hurt. What kind of animals?


This is Clanis undulosa.

12.01.2006 18:40, Pavel Morozov

we have long identified the wavy clanis, but there are doubts about C. hymenaea: first, the black border of the hind wings in C. hymenaea is intermittent and the basal dark band of the forewing has a completely different bend. If you have the book Motyle strednej Europy II zvazok (Die Schmetterlinge Mitteleuropas II Band) by Jaroslav Falcik, then there are several types of yellow ribbons. In terms of color scheme, indeed, the specimen is more suitable for C. hymenaea, but in terms of the structure of the pattern, it is quite C. nymphagoga. Do not forget that female tapeworms are slightly lighter than males, which can add difficulties in determining. It's a pity that the butterfly in the photo is cropped and the edges of the front wings are not visible. Now, if it were straightened out, then there would be less difficulty in determining it.

14.01.2006 0:48, BO.

  

Sorry for the failed recycle. Here with the whole wings.

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14.01.2006 15:04, Pavel Morozov

Yes, it looks like C. nymphagoga after all.
Please write down what deciduous trees grow in that local

15.01.2006 0:42, BO.

Yes, it looks like C. nymphagoga after all.
Please write down what deciduous trees grow in that area

Mostly fruit trees: apricot, apple, cherry, peach.
From the "wild" - elm, vetla (a type of willow), mulberry.

16.01.2006 16:39, Vlad Proklov

Yes, it looks like C. nymphagoga after all.
Please write down what deciduous trees grow in that area


I think I found it smile.gif

In my opinion, this is Catocala neonympha, compare with the drawing in the Spool atlas:

user posted image
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16.01.2006 19:09, Pavel Morozov

Thank You So Much!
Dear Kotbegemot, I am very grateful to you for the exact definition of the ribbon. At the same time, I apologize to all participants for the mistake made. I also read about the trees growing in this area - " apricot, apple, cherry, peach.
From the "wild" - elm, vetla (a kind of willow), mulberry. ", and the caterpillar C. nymphagoga feeds on oak, which is not mentioned there.
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19.01.2006 12:57, BO.

Thank You So Much!
Dear Kotbegemot, I am very grateful to you for the exact definition of the ribbon. At the same time, I apologize to all participants for the mistake made. I also read about the trees growing in this area - " apricot, apple, cherry, peach.
From the "wild" - elm, vetla (a kind of willow), mulberry. ", and the caterpillar C. nymphagoga feeds on oak, which is not mentioned there.

Thank you so much for your help !
Here are two more butterflies.
The same places. A butterfly caterpillar DSC06095.jpg I've shown it before 16.jpg.

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19.01.2006 15:07, Vlad Proklov

The first one is a male female of Orgyia antiquoides (=ericae), but it can also be a dim specimen of O. antiqua.

But we still need to think about the second one.
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19.01.2006 15:49, Bad Den

Moth-owl (Noctuidae) smile.gif
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19.01.2006 21:26, Guest

A scoop is similar to cabbage (Mamestra brassicae). The caterpillar also fits.
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01.02.2006 16:36, Мартина

Hello! Maybe I'm not quite on the topic, but I just don't know who else will help me if not you.

I have insects at home. These are: http://foto.mail.ru/list/galiamal/3/5.html

They look like moths, but they don't live in closets and they don't mind the smell of lavender.
They don't even bother much... They do not buzz, do not bite, do not spoil furniture and clothing... They just FLY and just SIT everywhere!!!!! But I'm not ready to accept that and not bother them... The house seems decent, there are no homeless people or abandoned basements in the neighborhood. They don't pile up anywhere. They fly and sit all over the apartment. The cup of my patience was overflowing when they began to "master" the crib.
I've been watching them with interest for six months now and I can't figure out who they are, what kind of insects they are, and where they live in my apartment-they reproduce...
Can you tell me who these cute creatures are?

p. s. if the photo doesn't seem clear enough, tell me, I'll look for others...

01.02.2006 16:50, гость: Д

Check food stocks, cereals, old crackers, etc.

01.02.2006 17:05, Helene

This is Plodia interpunctella, "southern barn fire". They do not live in cupboards, but in "grain and grain products"wink.gif. So it makes sense to check the supplies in the kitchen: cereals, dried fruits or whatever else there may be.
Plodia interpunctella (photo from www.leps.it)
Barn fires - article from the AgroMag server


Link works - fixed by moderator
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01.02.2006 17:15, Bad Den

Page on leps.it about this species (2 Helene-you have a link to Zygaena transalpina leads smile.gif)

This post was edited by Bad Den-02/01/2006 17: 16

01.02.2006 17:48, Helene

  Page on leps.it about this species (2 Helene-you have a link to Zygaena transalpina leads smile.gif)

Thank you. Th-that I have not for the first time this server how much in vain the link to the transalpine throws frown.gifout And I did not check in a hurry.

02.02.2006 6:31, Vlad Proklov

  user posted imageCaterpillar of the Nymphalidae

Nymphalidae is one of the largest families of diurnal butterflies. In the Asian part of Russia, there are more than 100 species of them.

Photo: BO


This is not a nymphalid caterpillar, but some kind of hooded scoops (Cuculliinae).

06.02.2006 13:48, BO.

This is not a nymphalid caterpillar, but some kind of hooded scoops (Cuculliinae).

Thanks! There may indeed be an error, when determining the nymphalid was the main version. The caterpillar is not large no more than 2 cm. Nimble, wanted to bring out a butterfly-ran away.

Help me determine:

DSC08983-butterfly with tick, size 1-1. 5 cm
DSC09216 - size 1-1 .5 cm, in the photo a characteristic pose, tucks its wings under itself.
DSC09353-looks like a catfish, small size ~ 1cm
. DSC09447 - size ~ 1cm
. DSC09659-similar to the description of a buzzard (Bombyliidae), size 0.4-0.7 cm.
Constantly in motion, they look like a fluffy ball.
The photos were taken in the Astrakhan region in June-July 2005.

This post was edited by BO. - 06.02.2006 14: 07

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06.02.2006 13:52, BO.

DSC09216-size 1-1. 5 cm, in the photo a characteristic pose, tucks the wings under itself .

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06.02.2006 14:24, Vlad Proklov

 
Help me determine:

DSC08983-butterfly with tick, size 1-1. 5 cm
DSC09216 - size 1-1 .5 cm, in the photo a characteristic pose, tucks its wings under itself.
DSC09353-looks like a catfish, small size ~ 1cm
. DSC09447 - size ~ 1cm
. DSC09659-similar to the description of a buzzard (Bombyliidae), size 0.4-0.7 cm.
Constantly in motion, they look like a fluffy ball.
The photos were taken in the Astrakhan region in June-July 2005.


DSC08983 -- probably some kind of firefly or broad-winged moth, I'm not sure. Maybe something else.

DSC09216 -- Golden grass (Chrysocrambus craterella) from ognevok.
I looked in the catalog of European lepidoptera (Karsholt et Razowski, 1996), where out of 5 European species of this genus, only this species is listed for the European part of the former USSR.

DSC09353 - this is some kind of snipe (family Rhagionidae).

DSC09447 -- no ideas at all.

DSC09659 -- I would also say it was buzzing.

But I know flies so well that I would wait for more knowledgeable people to tell me.

And the caterpillars of the hoods can be viewed at www.leps.it
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