E-mail: Password: Create an Account Recover password

About Authors Contacts Get involved Русская версия

show

Identification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

Community and ForumInsects identificationIdentification of Lepidoptera (Butterflies and Moths)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8... 986

02.05.2006 15:40, dabb

Some kind of butterfly that looks like a dustpan, but I'm not sure. Caught in the Slovenian Alps, in the Triglav National Park, altitude approximately 1600m, mid-July. It flew during the day in large numbers, and this species was not found outside the national park, possibly due to its love of high-altitude biotopes. Identify someone at least up to gender...

Pictures:
picture: 16722617aaddc1.jpg
16722617aaddc1.jpg — (12.82к)

02.05.2006 19:40, Dracus

I recently looked into the screw and found this picture. It's not my photo, but I didn't find the author of it. Merged long ago, it seems, from the site "Nature of Lake Baikal". A butterfly, respectively, from somewhere on Lake Baikal. I apologize for such inaccurate information, but, you know, I can't be more precise. Just really interested in this butterfly.

Pictures:
p8701.jpg
p8701.jpg — (111.74 k)

02.05.2006 20:37, Pavel Morozov

to Dracus: How is it from Lake Baikal? This is Zerynthia rumina from the Mediterranean.

02.05.2006 20:40, Pavel Morozov

to ADS: #1- Apocheima pilosaria.

02.05.2006 20:45, Dracus

Wow! I feel something like polixena... So, on the site" Nature of Lake Baikal " the author of the photo was hung in vain.
Thanks for the definition.

02.05.2006 21:13, ADS

to Morozzz: Thank you for your help!!!

This post was edited by ADS - 02.05.2006 21: 14

03.05.2006 8:10, Nilson

Just recently caught a moth. At first glance, it looks like a male Biston (Lucia) hirtarius, but I'm not sure. Tell me.

Pictures:
picture: biston.JPG
biston.JPG — (56.85к)

03.05.2006 10:43, Nilson

To ADS photo # 1
Lycia hirtaria, Biston betularia, Apocheima hispidaria and A. pilosaria are quite similar.
I define my butterfly rather as Lycia hirtaria (I lied in the previous post about the name). Yours, indeed, is similar to A. pilosaria-I agree with Morozzz, but it is not very clear in the photo which ends of the antennas are.

03.05.2006 11:59, Bad Den

to Dracus: How is it from Lake Baikal? This is Zerynthia rumina from the Mediterranean.

Hm... and for me, it looks like some kind of" draughtsman " from the Nymphalids... confused.gif

03.05.2006 18:21, Pavel Morozov

to Nilson: Lycia hirtarius is.
Likes: 1

03.05.2006 18:23, Pavel Morozov

to Bad Den: no, it's not a draughtsman at all. the photo is not very high-quality, not very bright. Definitely Zerynthia rumina. I have one. Just how it got to the butterflies of Lake Baikal-question.

03.05.2006 18:26, Pavel Morozov

About hirtarius and hirtaria - in different sources differently.

03.05.2006 23:01, Vlad Proklov

Just recently caught a moth. At first glance, it looks like a male Biston (Lucia) hirtarius, but I'm not sure. Tell me.


Lycia hirtaria это.
Likes: 1

04.05.2006 12:33, Nilson

To Bad Den: After all, the Dracus butterfly looks more like Zerynthia rumina, if indeed there are problems with the color of the photo.

05.05.2006 12:16, Bad Den

I will not argue, since knowledgeable people say that it is similar, it means similar:)

12.05.2006 10:27, Jonney

Greetings to all experts. This butterfly has always been a mystery, I couldn't even identify its family. Although I heard that it looks like a moth. Caught in July 1993 on the outskirts of Vladivostok, during the day. Maybe someone knows what kind of thing it is and what family?

Pictures:
IMG_0026.JPG
IMG_0026.JPG — (254.68к)

12.05.2006 12:04, Helene

Greetings to all experts. This butterfly has always been a mystery, I couldn't even identify its family. Although I heard that it looks like a moth. Caught in July 1993 on the outskirts of Vladivostok, during the day. Maybe someone knows what kind of thing it is and what family?

You can laugh, but this is a mottled bird (Zygaenidae). This is one of the variants of seaside "exotics", whose closest relatives live in Southeast Asia. It doesn't look at all like "normal" Palearctic mottles, but there are some in the tropics. I won't tell you the name right now (I don't remember), but I'll update it tomorrow or the day after and publish it. This is if Juglans doesn't beat me to it: he knows for sure! smile.gif

12.05.2006 13:55, Bad Den

Yes, if it's not a mustache, you won't even suspect smile.gifa motley bird

15.05.2006 7:42, Jonney

Thank you. So mottled, and the view?

15.05.2006 14:24, Helene

Thank you. So mottled, and the view?

Mlin, I forgot to call the person who first showed me this motley tree over the weekend... Well, if no one else wants to determine - it is necessary to take the issue seriously and clarify it.

15.05.2006 15:31, Pavel Morozov

to Jonny: This is the moth Cystidia stratonice.
I refer to the atlas of butterflies of Siberia by E. Berlov.

15.05.2006 15:36, Pavel Morozov

On the site of E. Berlov www.geocities.com/syberianlepidiptera / two species of Cystidia are represented - stratonice and couaggaria. More available on the site www.jpmoth.org where there is also a third species, which we do not have, in my opinion.

15.05.2006 16:49, Helene

to Jonny: This is the moth Cystidia stratonice.
I refer to the atlas of butterflies of Siberia by E. Berlov.

Hmm, it does look similar. But not her. The mustache...
IMHO pyadenitsa under motley mows: mimicry wink.gif
I'll try to Google the picture of the Far Eastern motley bird, or at least the name.

15.05.2006 17:04, Helene

However, I didn't find it...
I'll go home and check it out.

15.05.2006 17:12, Pavel Morozov

Go to the Japanese site without fail, take a look at the antennas, take a closer look, plz. Just like the mottled ones. But, all the same pyadennitsa. subfamily Ennominae. The genus is close to our Abraxas, Lomaspilis.
And such variegated flowers, even similar ones, simply do not exist in the Far Eastern region.

16.05.2006 7:10, Jonney

Vo! Still a moth! I looked at cystidia on a Japanese site, similar!
So, Cystidia stratonice?! Do you all agree?

16.05.2006 8:43, Bad Den

Yes, it looks very similar...

16.05.2006 13:28, Helene

I called my friend, who gave me this babets, saying that it is such an unusual motley bird. It turns out that he himself does not know exactly what kind of species. Here is his letter (from the Outlookand)

16.05.2006 14:10, Jonney

Uh, about the "slightly shiny or glossy pollen cover"shuffle.gif, maybe I was looking for her a little, because of her youth...

16.05.2006 14:14, Helene

Uh, about the "slightly shiny or glossy pollen cover"shuffle.gif, maybe I was looking for her a little, because of her youth...

It's more like you really have a moth mimicking a mottled moth.
Well, I must admit that mimics successfully. wink.gif

PS And I paid attention to the "shine" (on the left along the veins). Now I looked again - it seems that this is exactly the scuff... But her sawyere isn't a moth at all! If the moth - then a-ball-child!

This post was edited by Helene - 05/16/2006 14: 17

16.05.2006 20:29, Pavel Morozov

to Helene: I'm sorry, but you'll call the pyadennitsa mottled, or staphylinasia.

16.05.2006 21:33, Pavel Morozov

I'm sorry, Helene, it's just the mood - I caught a lamp at the dacha at the weekend, caught a bunny. Dralo's eyes, photokeratoconjunctivitis. shuffle.gif

17.05.2006 2:11, K. A. A.

Thank you all very much - I'll know now...

17.05.2006 13:35, Helene

to Helene: I'm sorry, but you'll call the pyadennitsa mottled, or staphylinasia.

With pyadenitsa/mottled is a really difficult case. Mimicking species can sometimes be difficult to distinguish from the "original". By the way, the whiskers of this butterfly still somehow confuse me...
What Stafika didn't admit is a completely different story... I also caught a hare, just like youlol.gif, but I didn't look at the UV lamp enough, and lol.gifI never got up on my own monitor all day because of the computer, I drove the picture back and forth, so I got such an anecdote... Only when I went outside did I realize what was going on. A joke of course: I clearly know the insect, but I can't remember, and something immediately exotic got into my head... confused.gif

17.05.2006 15:31, Pavel Morozov

By the way, some mottled birds, for example, Far Eastern, may also have atypical feathery antennae. And in pyadennits, the antennae are both thread-like and comb-like, why shouldn't they be a little club-shaped? smile.gif
By the way, despite the moonlit night on May 14, the year was awesome, so I forgot about everything, collected from the screen. But what a tan now. rolleyes.gif
Orthosia scoops flew well - five species at once (incerta, gothica, cruda, munda, gracilis). Yes, and a belated pyadennitsa Lycia hirtarius-a fresh large male.

17.05.2006 15:40, Helene

By the way, some mottled birds, for example, Far Eastern, may also have atypical feathery antennae. And in pyadennits, the antennae are both thread-like and comb-like, why shouldn't they be a little club-shaped? smile.gif

That's exactly "a little club-shaped" - I don't remember any moth!
Many Procriinae, not only those of the Far East, have feathery antennae... But the antennae, like the pollen cover, clearly differ in "texture"in mottled birds. Feathery antennae in mottled birds are still slightly shiny, harsh.

17.05.2006 16:40, Pavel Morozov

But we forgot about venation.
Likes: 1

17.05.2006 16:50, Helene

But we forgot about venation.

Yeah. And here's mlin: I don't know where to get it now (that is, on the Internet, and not in the physical identifier that is at home).
If you can compare the venation of the little animal in the photo (it is clearly visible there) with the pyadenichny one, then do it, and? The venation of Agaristidae is probably unrealistic to find...
I looked at it again , and again I don't like it as a speck... wall.gif All the same, the veins themselves are somehow too clearly visible (the pollen is thick in the moth, the veins practically hide), and the cell of the hind wing is kind of" curly", with a wavy outer border - I think I've only seen this in mottled birds...
Although figs knows them, exotics: maybe in the oriental fauna and moth strange and unrecognizable?

17.05.2006 17:28, Pavel Morozov

1. If you look at a female brushtail, it's not a butterfly at all, but a cockroach of some kind. Anything can happen.
2. Have you ever visited a Japanese website? There is also a photo of the caterpillar Cystidia stratonice-a typical moth. However, you know the caterpillars of the" pyadennichny type " are found in scoops.
There are no similar mottled plants, and there are no agaristids. Who this butterfly imitates is a question.
3. An entire tribe, Cystidini
4, has been identified. There may also be a snag - as with Diloba coeruleocephala-some refer it to crested birds, others to scoops. As the Agaristidae are a separate family, the subfamily is scoop. Who and to whom this species belongs-also need to find out. Personally, I have absolutely no doubt that this is the aforementioned pyadennitsa. At least four sources refer to this species as a moth. And her veins are clearly visible due to significant scuffing. I have such a copy from Kaimanovka, fresh-with a black pattern.
5. to dispel doubts, you should contact Elena Antonova.

17.05.2006 17:37, Helene

5. to dispel doubts, you should contact Elena Antonova.

Only Jonny could do that-he's got a butterfly!
By the way, Elena Mikhailovna has been visiting the museum infrequently lately... frown.gif

By the way, I need to get my own animal (non-venom) and compare it. And it would also not hurt to determine by the way to the type...

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8... 986

New comment

Note: you should have a Insecta.pro account to upload new topics and comments. Please, create an account or log in to add comments.

* Our website is multilingual. Some comments have been translated from other languages.

Random species of the website catalog

Insecta.pro: international entomological community. Terms of use and publishing policy.

Project editor in chief and administrator: Peter Khramov.

Curators: Konstantin Efetov, Vasiliy Feoktistov, Svyatoslav Knyazev, Evgeny Komarov, Stan Korb, Alexander Zhakov.

Moderators: Vasiliy Feoktistov, Evgeny Komarov, Dmitriy Pozhogin, Alexandr Zhakov.

Thanks to all authors, who publish materials on the website.

© Insects catalog Insecta.pro, 2007—2024.

Species catalog enables to sort by characteristics such as expansion, flight time, etc..

Photos of representatives Insecta.

Detailed insects classification with references list.

Few themed publications and a living blog.