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03.04.2019 20:14, MIV

1 and 2 are correct


The same is not specified for 22 regions.
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03.04.2019 20:46, MIV

I can't decide on two moths. Please tell me if they are familiar to anyone.

1. Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe. 18.08.18. Span of cr. 21mm
picture: IMG_9444_L_21____________.____.____._______________________._18.08.18._leg.__.______.jpg

2. Ocd. Krasnoyarsk, forest-steppe. 16.06.18. Span cr. 17mm
picture: IMG_9447_L_17_________________________._____.___._________._16.06.18._leg.__.______.jpg

03.04.2019 21:32, Alexandr Zhakov

The same is not specified for 22 regions.

I have big doubts about Cucullia dracunculi, it doesn't look much like our European ones. You should have similar species, see what is similar for your region or neighboring ones, if there is nothing at all, then maybe Cucullia dracunculi, but very strange.

This post was edited by Djon-03.04.2019 21: 33
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04.04.2019 16:02, vidjl

The same is not specified for 22 regions.

I analyzed our 20th region, so more than 300 species from all families are not listed in Sinev. You need to update already.
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04.04.2019 17:21, vidjl

I have big doubts about Cucullia dracunculi, it doesn't look much like our European ones. You should have similar species, see what is similar for your region or neighboring ones, if there is nothing at all, then maybe Cucullia dracunculi, but very strange.

Cucullia amota still, and in terms of the timing of summer, too.
https://ermak24.com/animalia-insecta-lepido...llia-amota.html (your site, I take it? smile.gif )
Very similar to the copy posted by Eugene (akulich-sibiria), re-spread?
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...&st=50&p=966858

This post was edited by vidjl - 04.04.2019 18: 34
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04.04.2019 19:46, akulich-sibiria

Cucullia amota still, and in terms of the timing of summer, too.
https://ermak24.com/animalia-insecta-lepido...llia-amota.html (your site, I take it? smile.gif )
Very similar to the copy posted by Eugene (akulich-sibiria), re-spread?
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...&st=50&p=966858


That's the one yes.gif
It's nice to see your material passed through the hands of an experienced "straightener"))))

04.04.2019 19:48, akulich-sibiria

1 and 2 are correct


so still major ))

04.04.2019 22:49, Alexandr Zhakov

I analyzed our 20th region, so more than 300 species from all families are not listed in Sinev. You need to update it already.

If these 300 species are in collections and not in publications, they will definitely not be included in the new edition of the catalog.
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04.04.2019 23:26, vidjl

If these 300 species are in collections and not in publications, they will definitely not be included in the new edition of the catalog.

In publications starting from 2009 already as. smile.gif
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04.04.2019 23:27, vidjl

so still major ))

You have a regular one.
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05.04.2019 10:23, Alexandr Zhakov

Cucullia amota still, and in terms of the timing of summer, too.
https://ermak24.com/animalia-insecta-lepido...llia-amota.html (your site, I take it? smile.gif )
Very similar to the copy posted by Eugene (akulich-sibiria), re-spread?
http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtop...&st=50&p=966858

I certainly apologizesmile.gif, but this is definitely not Cucullia amota, but according to the link to the post by Eugene (akulich-sibiria), exactly the same butterfly is called 2.Cucullia dracunculi.
Either you have Cucullia dracunculi like this, or it's a different species and we can't identify it.

This post was edited by Djon-05.04.2019 10: 24

05.04.2019 22:28, MIV

I certainly apologizesmile.gif, but this is definitely not Cucullia amota, but according to the link to the post by Eugene (akulich-sibiria), exactly the same butterfly is called 2.Cucullia dracunculi.
Either you have Cucullia dracunculi like this, or it's a different species and we can't identify it.


Yes, this is Zhenya Akulov's hood shop No. 2, a little "ennobled". I also think that it is not very similar to C. amota.
Zhenya, who defined it for you or did it smile.giftoo much?

This post was edited by MIV-05.04.2019 22: 31
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05.04.2019 22:37, MIV

You have a regular one.


I wouldn't say that. This is the second copy I met in our region. I've never seen it myself.

05.04.2019 23:40, vidjl

exactly the same butterfly is called 2. Cucullia dracunculi.

So it's not exactly the same scoop, but the same one, just Mikhail rearranged it smile.gif

or it's a different species and we can't identify it.

Then the last thoughts, if still something else:
1-collage with Cucullia infuscata, which used to be a subspecies of Cucullia cineracea, it turns out that Eugene's specimen is something in between, the shape of the wings is like cineracea, the drawing is closer to infuscata
2-collage with Cucullia cineracea
with http://www.lepiforum.de/bh/personen/michel...a_cineracea.jpg

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06.04.2019 0:25, Alexandr Zhakov

I don't like both options, so I suggest this collage of your cucullia with images of Cucullia turkestana implicata and Cucullia dracunculi from Witt's Catalog_Cucullinae-1. The idea is to view these two views in this directory svm.
picture: colag.jpg
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06.04.2019 0:35, vidjl

Similar more of course. I think that if such a dubious specimen, wouldn't it be better to conduct a genital analysis, suddenly a really new species for Russia.
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06.04.2019 7:07, AGG

Gentlemen, please take a look at the URL # 36071 mol.gif

06.04.2019 22:00, MIV

to akulich-sibiria
Zhenya, take your Kukulya. Apparently, until you disembowel it, it will not be wall.gifuseful .
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07.04.2019 12:28, vladleksey

Good day everyone!
Dear forumchane, experts, help, please, in the definition of saturnium.
The first two are from South Africa
, the next two are from Southern China
, and the next one is from Southeast Asia. Some kind of Antherea
In the other photo is one of Loepa ?
Last photo-Saturnia from Madagascar

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07.04.2019 12:30, vladleksey

And here is this Erebidae from South Africa. What kind?

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07.04.2019 18:00, D.Alex

Good day everyone!
Dear forumchane, experts, help, please, in the definition of saturnium.
The first two are from South Africa
, the next two are from Southern China
, and the next one is from Southeast Asia. Some kind of Antherea
In the other photo is one of Loepa ?
Last photo-Saturnia from Madagascar

1) 2) something from Bunaea, Lobobunaea, Pseudobunaea, I won't say
for sure 3 / Saturnia simla
4|Actias sinensis
5|Antheraea frithi
6|Loepa anthera
7| Antherina suraka

07.04.2019 18:21, Konung

And here is this Erebidae from South Africa. What kind?

Saturnia from South Africa is visually closest to Pseudobunaea pallens, but you need to check.
Erebidae - Cyligramma latona

07.04.2019 19:41, Tivanik

Zygaena viciae или Zygaena lonicerae? Smolensk region, 25.06.2010

picture: IMGP5211_e.JPG

07.04.2019 21:43, Гена

Help me determine if something is absolutely impossible(

Ukraine, Odessa region, Tatarbunarsky district, 24.07.2018, span 41 mm.

Except for this kind of nonsense http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Agrotis_Alexandriensis I don't find anything like it.

This post was edited by Gena-07.04.2019 21: 49

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07.04.2019 22:42, Alexandr Zhakov

Help me determine if something is absolutely impossible(

Ukraine, Odessa region, Tatarbunarsky district, 24.07.2018, span 41 mm.

Except for this kind of nonsense http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Agrotis_Alexandriensis I don't find anything like it.

If on the coasts, then this is:
http://www.lepiforum.de/lepiwiki.pl?Agrotis_Desertorum
They are so light there

07.04.2019 22:51, Гена

Thanks! It is on the coast.

07.04.2019 22:53, WesternDragon

Zygaena viciae или Zygaena lonicerae? Smolensk region, 25.06.2010


Zygaena lonicerae
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08.04.2019 14:31, Раду Кибзий

Hello! Can you help me identify the butterfly? Chisinau neighborhood, May 23, 2018. Thank you in advance!

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08.04.2019 14:38, Alexandr Zhakov

Hello! Can you help me identify the butterfly? Chisinau neighborhood, May 23, 2018. Thank you in advance!

Dypterigia scabriuscula
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08.04.2019 15:51, vladleksey

1) 2) something from Bunaea, Lobobunaea, Pseudobunaea, I won't say
for sure 3 / Saturnia simla
4|Actias sinensis
5|Antheraea frithi
6|Loepa anthera
7| Antherina suraka


Thank you very much!

08.04.2019 15:52, vladleksey

Saturnia from South Africa is visually closest to Pseudobunaea pallens, but you need to check.
Erebidae - Cyligramma latona

Thank you very much!

08.04.2019 20:01, maik

Tell me today to light Stavropol about 30 mm Chloantha hyperici ?
picture: DSCF7309.JPG

This post was edited by maik-08.04.2019 20: 04

08.04.2019 20:05, Ilia Ustiantcev

Chloantha hyperici
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08.04.2019 22:09, Kerby

Hi. Help me determine it.
Burdakovka settlement, Irkutsk region.
mixed forest, 08.06.18
Dimensions: 16 mm - wingspan, 6 mm-body length.

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08.04.2019 23:16, Alexandr Zhakov

Hi. Help me determine it.
Burdakovka settlement, Irkutsk region.
mixed forest, 08.06.18
Dimensions: 16 mm - wingspan, 6 mm-body length.

Thyris fenestrella
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09.04.2019 4:42, akulich-sibiria

to akulich-sibiria
Zhenya, take your Kukulya. Apparently, until you gut it, it won't do any wall.gifgood .


no problem, you just need a photo of the genitals. And I hope it's a male ))

09.04.2019 6:44, Alexandr Zhakov

no problem, you just need a photo of the genitals. And I hope it's a male ))

Looks like a female smile.gif

11.04.2019 16:10, lepsmol

Hello. Tell me this Lomaspilis opis? Vyazma neighborhood, Smolensk region. Beginning of June 2016
picture: 1.JPG

11.04.2019 17:36, Ilia Ustiantcev

She is sama

11.04.2019 17:42, AGG

Hello. Tell me this Lomaspilis opis? Vyazma neighborhood, Smolensk region. Beginning of June 2016

yes.gif krasava beer.gif

This post was edited by AGG - 11.04.2019 17: 45

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