The concept of the site goals and objectives. To discuss

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Peter Khramov, 08.08.2014 23:41

There is a suspicion that it is necessary to close up the page / section "About", which clearly articulate who we are, what our goals and objectives, what priorities in the work site, who is who on the site and to whom on what issues can be addressed directly and stuff like that.Bo sometimes new people is not entirely clear, sometimes even among experienced users, questions arise about the priorities, but someone may seem that the site is too poppy, and to communicate with him, he will not. In addition, we have the international version in English, with the understanding there can be even harder.And then there's Shamil next topic the issue raised. In general, it's time.
In this topic, I sketched an initial draft on the above issues, I propose here to discuss it. Mneiiya and additions are welcome. And the lack of it - is not: -)
So, in general terms, Lepidoptera.ru/Lepidoptera.pro - a place of concentration of data on Lepidoptera.His foundation - the tree taxa, starting from the squad and finishing subspecies. On a tree superimposed other data (eg, photos / illustrations), and everything is polished users the ability to communicate through the website comments.Our main task - to collect the largest possible amount of information on various topics of the site and an increasing number of people keen on this topic, and our main goal - knowledge of the subject (Lepidoptera).

Site

The tree taxa (classification).Specific illustrations and sketches with the obligatory indication of the sources of information.
Descriptions supraspecific taxa and subspecies.
Search engine tasonov with autosubstitution.
Product types with a search on formalized criteria.For example, search for all moths Vietnam (or 5 in the region of the Russian Federation), flying in May (or June) with a length of front wing more than 10 mm.
Gallery subsections - basic (butterflies in all stages of development as well as to determine the species of the genitals) plu extra for landscapes and blog.Project - users of the site that can not be realized under other sections. For example, "The determinant of the day butterflies Primorye."
Collections - service to conduct collections of Lepidoptera and the exchange of information about them to other users, as well as proposals for the sale and exchange of copies.Article - "scientific" (as opposed to blog) Related Articles Lepidoptera.
Blog - "non-scientific" articles.
And Section Authors, Literature and the Community with the relevant content.

Now, a little religion.
We are trying to combine the online scientific accuracy with an attractive resource for mere mortals.It is almost an impossible task, for example, in the framework of the print edition, but the site I think it is possible. Just because a site is not to be certain on how to complete these bricks with one level of the feed in good site - it's a piece of clay that everyone can crush under his requirements.Typical conflict between physicists and poets - some Fautua hanging as the main illustration - straightened a copy or snapshot "nature"? The answer - you need to for each conclusion the option that it is currently most needed.
Still need some default options, as well as publicly announced by landmarks.I believe that these guidelines should be to the side of science, and not in the direction of pop music. But this does not mean that we have to be snobs (which, in Russia, unfortunately, not uncommon) and deter users who simply opredeleit another caterpillar from the garden.Photos of butterflies - a very important part of this information, bearing, besides, also an aesthetic burden, and closeup - important people in our community.Nevertheless, we believe that at this stage of human development goal of our website can not be achieved without the collection and examination of material, so this is the fee we encourage educational purposes, and the legislation of the Russian Federation in the field of view is largely delusional.We understand that the collection or nesbor material - matter of preferences and beliefs of man, not a measure of its (non) goodness. For example, I myself am not collect material and collections do not keep, but not because of religious fanaticism, but because of the fact that I do not like to collect (when I have time, I'd rather pofotografiruyu) and maintain the collection once.As for the Conservation of Nature, let us already agree: the strategy of survival of vertebrates and invertebrates are very different, respectively, and have different methods of protection of both, so if someone suddenly decided that they should be protected.What works on the Amur tiger, will not work on butterflies, which umenshenieili increase the number of individuals per hundred copies in the wild do not play any role in the chances of survival of the form.On the other hand, a stupid habit of catching anything and everything without any need, as well as a dull habit crap everywhere, and then another, and did not clean up after themselves - both individually and on a commercial scale - that is, yes, here it is support can not be correct.
We finished with the religious part.Another part, which we often forget - the English version. At the moment, her attendance is not much less Russian, and the concentration of visits on target highly specific demands even more. However, active participants, foreigners have not so much.There are several reasons, but the main thing - is that the English version is lagging behind in functionality and the amount of information due to problems with the translation. One of the priorities - resolution of this issue, and full synchronization of the two versions of the site.

Summary. To strive for.To the site with a comprehensive tree taxa of Lepidoptera of the world, with more graphics and textual version information for each taxon, with an active, knowledgeable and pleasant in communication with the community and the development of additional services and thematic projects. All this in the international format.

We discuss who thinks what.And most importantly, I think whether it is someone something about it.

Comments

09.08.2014 21:39, Peter Khramov

Let's not forget that we, fortunately, there are no restrictions imposed forumnym engine. Therefore, we need not make out anything and everything in the form of "order". Regarding attributive signs, then:
At this stage, we write this info in the section "Adding information on the form." At this stage, no one must study the issue of illustrations of all this business.Indeed, it may be interesting. But first - you need just a list of look-alike species. After all, if there is Illustration infa, how they differ, it is almost the same as that foty, fastened into one.
Gallery habitats will. Gallery plant - I think that is not necessary.It is much more necessary formalization signs of fodder plants in Latin. Then it will be possible to make the selection of plants, and synchronize the website with Plantarium - if someone has a desire to see the pictures and read descriptions of the plants. A separate gallery - it means a separate system of plant taxa. But this is no longer cool.As parasites - I do not know. Is it necessary? I suppose that is sufficient to indicate in the description of the type that here are some had parasites.
Reports on trips, etc. - It all fits perfectly to the format of the blog. Just open it to make new articles zaregalsya all users, and a few more features to add.All of this is my personal opinion, everyone obsuzhdaemo. I ask the people to speak.

10.08.2014 11:36, Shamil Murtazin

Basil, Yuri! It seems that many copies of the puzzle is not necessary. There are also "projects" - and there is realized.
The main objective is described as close to the actual creation at the moment of the tree taxa of Lepidoptera, including a picture and description of species.
From myself still add that, apparently, Peter thinks about formalizing the maximum data.That is: any information necessary to lay out a kind of a sign for each species.It's easier to find later on various grounds, will make it possible to create some function or "project" that we have not yet thought / did not dare to think =)
In this section the addition of foreign tree taxa, whether or tahini riders - too much fragmentation of efforts.Again, this does not negate the possibility of the creation thereof in the "Projects" and then bundles the main site ... (again confusion, but maybe someone will understand =) So far, yes, parasitoids generally not taken into account.In plants, it seems, have the opportunity to bundle with Plantarium now - to make links from the pages where there are indications of species of plants in Latin. The only thing is to communicate with the admins Plantarium on cooperation to settle the request format)

10.08.2014 19:32, Shamil Murtazin

Yuri, my experience is not very revealing, since I litters were only two extreme seasons. And three seasons ago, I did a butterfly knew almost nothing)))
And I was about a third broods of parasites. I think, because he took mainly in the fall and in the campaigns on the route.And there seems to affect behavior change gusyanki when infected with parasites - they roam the open roads and creep etc. Total bred butterflies no more than 15-20 ... about 5 respectively had parasites. Photographed only the two extremes, so all around.As parasites, as I think, it is necessary to do so:
It is a separate project with a mini tree taxa in that context, that it has only those species that are illustrated. And, accordingly, all older tribe.
And in the description of Lepidoptera species in a separate field "parasites / parasitoids" indicates a link to a page in the project parasites.There are already pictures adult, cocoon, etc.
Photo increasingly infected gusyanki, IMHO, should be in the Lepidoptera.
The draft parasites photo gusyanki can only be published with the cocoons of parasites.
Something like this. Fittingly? ..

11.08.2014 7:34, Shamil Murtazin

Basil, this is not the friendship of peoples. It is as if I have suddenly started talking about beetles: you and the information is accurate, and photos larger, and accuracy of the above. That is why a reference to Plantarium - it is almost "automatically". A resource that ground under the plant. As they say, a sin not to use.And to us it makes life easier: no need another tree species, and do not need a gallery, etc.
And with the habitats, it turns out that it is bound to a particular instance of pictures, then naturally, the external resource can not be.
According to the location on the page type, apparently did not change. As the field of food plant - will remain.Just the name of the plant and will be referring to the Plantarium.
Peter! Now the turn of the "scientific" articles. What will be the extent of their scientific? And who will determine. It may emerge that question when will the blog and learn how to pop.
How are things with the manager of collections? ..It seems to have forgotten that part of the contract at the time: I do not remember the logic interfacing with the main gallery collector.

11.08.2014 12:54, Peter Khramov

About landscapes

A) prepare a directory of landscapes, which can be directly invoked by describing species of butterflies on the basis of 100% coincidence of names, no. So here are foty may be of interest.B) The user does not always have enough information or time writing separate blogostati a major post in the general theme of which was then seen.And then you can put foty butterflies and a pair of photons landscape - and is interesting and informative, and useful to the narrative of the resource, and there are more, then discuss as compared to the case where only the lined butterfly.
B) It should be borne in mind that, despite the claims. A and B, and partly foty landscape is a tribute to obscurantism.But I think it is a tribute useful as well as useful not only to learn how to articles, but also a popular blog. For a site of portal type.

About Plantarium and plants

If Plantarium giknetsya, then giknetsya. Links to descriptions / foty plants (which, incidentally, will be affixed and ubiratsya automatically) - only the extra service.The main thing that was a clear listing of plants in Latin in a formalized form is not our website for as many butterflies, but not so for hundreds - two species of these plants were also photos.

About scientific articles

At this stage we do not claim that this level of materials published first here, then somewhere else. So while you can simply select the article in terms of publications in which the author has released it to our website.And by itself, the site publishes articles only with the consent of the author or the author himself (as fotorafii in the gallery). If suddenly be previously unpublished material, and then for them to assess the degree of scientific (which are more suitable for the "articles" or blog), I think, not be easy.

About service for curators of collections

With conjugation galleries is simple: for each instance you can put down the property at startup (or later): Do not allow the publication of the main gallery site, to allow the publication in the main gallery or automatically publish photos in the main gallery at the instance is on the site.
ZYNow there are only finish editing already downloaded copies LC, so I think, this week, at last, the service will be released in the people.

18.08.2014 11:02, Boris Loboda

For the "Photos of nature" (if we understand by this survey live insects) are not always leg. automatic photographer. By beetles we share such a common practice, "funky" views. Especially when you brought from afar, photographed - why not let someone take pictures? According to this technology take off and butterflies and dragonflies.Even when taking the field if we assume the same Arthur something "good" I dug out and I take - I'm trying to indicate it was his, it's his discovery. Especially in the field of photography is time-consuming, if I decide to take assume day, and not to collect, I almost did not find, I do not have time to dig, I just rented it finds.Our usual practice to leave "collective", the photographer does not always work alone, even in the field.