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Community and ForumEntomological collectionsCan I restore it?

taler, 21.05.2006 16:54

I came across a rather rare copy of Papilio saharae in our area.Similar to the swallowtail, but much smaller in size.Comrade stray, rather ragged.There are no scales at all on the tips of the forewings weep.gif.Maybe there are ways to touch up? confused.gif

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22.05.2006 11:39, Helene

I came across a rather rare copy of Papilio saharae in our area.Similar to the swallowtail, but much smaller in size.Comrade stray, rather ragged.There are no scales at all on the tips of the forewings weep.gif.Maybe there are ways to touch up? confused.gif

It depends on what you need butterflies for. If you just have a hobby, like collecting stamps or postcards, and most importantly-the appearance, then try to walk on the sites of insect dealers. I know that designers who use insects for their installations stick artificial whiskers on their sawyers and somehow tint their wings.
And if you have even the slightest cognitive interest in butterflies-absolutely not! A copy with all sorts of artificial improvements is a spoiled copy! It is even worse to "restore" butterflies by gluing similar "spare parts" from other specimens and even species to replace the missing body parts. In a real, serious collection, "natural" is valued - so that these butterflies can be used for scientific work if desired. Moreover, it would be a pity to use a rare species for decoration. Better label your butterflies (stick a small piece of paper on the pin under the butterfly indicating where and when it was caught - the exact coordinates and date). By the way, such a collection, which is kept according to the rules, is even more highly valued.
There is still such a moment. The butterfly is a migrant, flew from God knows where (that's why it's interesting), and on the way it got worn out. Don't you think that decorating her "well - deserved heroic journey" defects is just stupid? wink.gif

22.05.2006 13:58, taler

Of course, there is something in this..."her" deserved "defects" in the heroic journey-she would have flown a little more,she would have been completely unrecognizable.But still-THANK YOU!!!

22.05.2006 14:06, Helene

Of course, there is something in this..."her" deserved "defects" in the heroic journey-she would have flown a little more,she would have been completely unrecognizable.But still-THANK YOU!!!

And you label your butterflies! Here there is already at least one interesting find-interesting precisely because of where the butterfly was caught.
Sample label shape:
1. Country
2. Administrative division, if any (region, province, etc.)
3. The nearest locality to be mapped and the mileage with direction (if more than 3 km; if less, just "neighborhood")
4. Date: day-month-year.
5. Last name of the importer

For example: Israel, 3 km from Haifa, 22.05.2006, Thaler smile.gif

24.05.2006 14:02, taler

Actually, I do.But I'm an amateur collector.And I want the instances to be the most-most smile.gif

24.05.2006 14:13, Helene

Actually, I do.But I'm an amateur collector.And I want the copies to be the most-the most smile.gif

Many entomologists are descended from amateurssmile.gif, including myself. And I really have a collection at home: I understand intellectually that I should limit myself to what is directly necessary for work, but the reality is that I continue to entertain the "inner collector", and butterflies survive from people's apartments lol.gif
In cases like yours, I advise you to buy (buy, exchange) a "luxury" copy for the kit (not from Israel, but from where they come from) in order to admire smile.gifit . And when you look at the flyby, but your own - remember how caught! smile.gif

27.05.2006 22:54, taler

I would love to exchange it,but it lives in North Africa, and our country has no contact with those countries that are located there.So I will be content with what is frown.gif

28.05.2006 11:37, Bad Den

I would love to exchange it,but it lives in North Africa, and our country has no contact with those countries that are located there.So I will be content with what I have frown.gif

And to go as a tourist to the same Tunisia or Egypt? Or are they not allowed in for political reasons?

28.05.2006 14:33, taler

It's not really possible to go to Tunisia at all, but it doesn't attract you to Egypt....

28.05.2006 15:59, Dracus

Is it widespread in Tunisia? Anyway, I'm going out this year, and if I do, I can get you some copies.

28.05.2006 20:23, taler

I don't know how widespread it is in Tunisia.But I know that its habitat is North Africa and the Sinai.

29.05.2006 14:04, Helene

In general, the dry residue: if the info slips that someone has Papilio saharae for exchange/sale, I will keep in mind. smile.gif
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29.05.2006 14:45, taler

to Helene: You still don't want to share?

29.05.2006 15:14, Helene

to Helene: You still don't want to share?

I didn't say I didn't want to trade. I advised people to follow the rules for sending butterflies - these are different things wink.gif
Look for you this sailboat purposefully for the sake of exchange, of course, right now I will not run: well, I'm not so fixed on replenishing the collectionwink.gif, But to help on occasion just out of good feelings is pzhalsta And it will be smile.gifan exchange (actually, the material from Israel is not uninteresting), or I'll just cross you with the sail owner - and change yourself... this is already under the circumstances smile.gif

29.05.2006 15:45, taler

to Helene: so it's not just about this sailboat, but about the exchange rolleyes.gifin general

29.05.2006 16:18, Helene

to Helene: so it's not just about this sailboat, but about the exchange in general rolleyes.gif

Me too wink.gif

30.05.2006 22:30, RippeR

I have a suggestion: if you, Helene, so want to comply with all the laws, then send the parcel correctly, politically literate, and we will send it in envelopes lol.gifSend it as you like, we will not get anything from this, just will it not be oppressive for you that they send you for pennies, and you will spend so much time, money and effort.. not reasonable.. It is also not wise to avoid this just to avoid encountering any of these exchange methods, losing the opportunity to exchange (this also applies to otherssmile.gif)

30.05.2006 23:06, taler

to RippeR:Bravo!Somewhat sharply,but clearly!!! lol.gif

31.05.2006 11:10, Bad Den

I have a suggestion: if you, Helene, so want to comply with all the laws, then send the parcel correctly, politically literate, and we will send it in envelopes lol.gifSend it as you like, we will not get anything from this, just will it not be oppressive for you that they send you for pennies, and you will spend so much time, money and effort.. not reasonable.. Also, it is not wise to avoid doing this just so as not to encounter any of these exchange methods, losing the opportunity to exchange (this also applies to others smile.gif)

Envelopes crumble after all... Not sorry to lose the material? wink.gif

31.05.2006 14:42, taler

If you substitute cardboard,it doesn't crease.You should be wary of brand cancellation.The impact is quite strong.Output try not to put the material under the brand umnik.gif

31.05.2006 14:43, RippeR

On one side of the bowl.. on the other hand, the protection inside provides a fairly reliable protection with thick paper, thick oilcloth and cotton wool.. I have already sent one parcel (knowing our services, I thought that a beggar would reach it) and it arrived normally, all the copies are intact. It took me about a week to get there, but I don't remember the exact dates of sending and receiving it anymore..
The only thing is, I haven't received frown.gifit yet . Although it may have arrived, the mailbox may have been opened and stolen (the mailbox doesn't work well). It's better to start your own mailbox at the post office or ask them not to bring it, like I'll pick it up myself, so that nothing is lost..

Mnyu had one case: I was sent a package from Korea with a net, stain, etc. It was supposed to reach in a week, but these, excuse the expression, "freaks", mixed up the address and sent such a large package to America! lol.gif It is of course necessary to be giants in the truest sense of the word smile.gif.. But I waited another week and the parcel still arrived.. I think they just didn't know where Moldova was lol.gif

So, Bad Dan, maybe you can exchange a couple of views? You can start by sending banals, if you're so nervous that it won't come..??!??!?!?

This post was edited by RippeR - 05/31/2006 14: 53

31.05.2006 15:22, taler

I didn't send it to America.Maybe send it by registered mail? confused.gif

31.05.2006 15:33, RippeR

a couple of days ago I saw pieces of paper with advertising lying around the entrance, maybe someone climbed.. It is necessary to call the post office, ask that they do not bring it, but only inform you about the letter

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