Lists of personal collections

Can you imagine how much time you need to "kill" to make a list of a collection of, for example, 7 thousand species ??

I don't think I can handle such a task, although I don't think my collection is so voluminous.

you can try it without scoops, moths and micra... there will be fewer of them, although it will also be difficult for people who have been to many places and collected a lot... (I mean butterflies)

This post was edited by AntSkr - 05/22/2008 20: 07

I think it will not be difficult for me to post a list of species from my modest collection.. Well, for barbels, scarabeids, pigeons, thick-headed yes karabusam exactly..
It will be interesting even for me - to make a list of my own species, count them, hear someone else's opinion and see where I started in the future
I'm not home right now )
In general, there is a separate topic for this - photo collections-so much easier than rewriting everything

I doubt that I can provide a complete list ,but I will give lists of the most interesting vidov

It's just that the topic of photo collections has gone far down, nothing new has appeared in it for a long time, and photos sometimes don't stay there for more than 13 days.

At the moment, I am ready (if necessary) to set only a list of carbuses, the rest are still being disassembled and disassembled. Although, I agree with Alexander, it would be great to see lists of other collections.

In order to take part, you really have to spend time, but the topic is still very interesting.

Colleagues, you can do this little by little - the main thing is not to repeat what has already been written.
Example: carabus (morphocarabus)hummeli hummeli purpurascens - Primorsky Krai village of Kamenushka 14.04.1992 6/28 small and 6/34 young

6/28 small and 6/34 dev.

Is this "male" - "female"?

There are a few scary moments.
Firstly, there are a lot of amateurs on the forum. I, for example, am not always sure of the results of my determination. Probably all amateurs have a lot of mistakes in the definition.
Secondly, I suspect that most people are most interested in large beautiful butterflies and large beautiful beetles (barbels and carabuses). And if you collect a nondescript trifle? It is unlikely that anyone will be interested in lists of bee or fly trifles. Yes, and it is also possible to work with errors.

I completely agree, I often have to go back to already defined views and redefine them again, and it will be difficult to understand the long lists laid out...

I'm not sure about my own and other people's language, so I can easily set up, for example, karabuses.. The only thing in doubt is schidleri and excellens frivaldski-who is excellens and whether he is Frivaldski, and who is schidleri.. But in theory, they are still excellences. I won't write the dates - it's too steamy

Fpired!
Here it is, my modest collection of karabuses, I ask prscheniya if I made some mistakes in writing, as from memory:

Limnocarabus clathratus foveolatoseriatus, Orenburg
maacki, Amur region.
Pachycranion imperialis, Ust-Kamenogorsk district, Kazakhstan
Eucarabus stscheglovi, Orenburg and Volgograd regions.
Carabus granulatus ssp. granulatus, MD
ssp. duarius, East. Kazakh region, Irkutsk region
ssp. tellurius, DV
ssp. leander, Kavkaz
menetriesi, MO
cancellatus, MD
Morphocarabus regalis ssp. jenissoni, Kazakhstan, Ust-Kamenogorsk
regalis ?ssp. regalis, Irkutsk region
excellens frivaldsky, MD
schiedleri, MD
spasskianus, Irkutsk region
aeruginosus, Irkust region
odoratus ssp. dabanensis, Irk region
henningi ssp. hamarensis, Irk region
henningi ssp. henningi, Irk region
Trachycarabus scabriusculus, MD
besseri, MD
latreillei, Amur region
estreicheri, Ukraine
sibiricus, Irkust region
Hygrocarabus variolosus, Carpathians
Eucarabus arcensis ssp., Carpathians, Ivano-Frankivsk region
cumanus, Caucasus
billbergi, Amur region
ullrichi, MD
Procerus coriarius ssp. rugifer, MD
Oreocarabus linnei, Carpathians
hortensis, MO
Tomocarabus convexus, MD
marginalis, Volgograd region
Megodontus violaceus, Carpathian
exaratus, Caucasus, ash stump
aurolimbatus, Karachay-Cherkessia
septemcarinatus, Caucasus
schoencherri, Irkutsk region
gylenchalli, Crimea, ash stump
Microplectes convallium, Caucasus
Diocarabus loschnikovi, Buryatia
Aulonocarabus careniger, Amur and Primorye
Archicarabus nemoralis, MO
Tribax circassicus, Karachay-Cherkessia
Archiplectes edithae, Karachay-Cherkessia
reitteri, Krasnodar Krai
Pachycarabus koeningi, Karachay-Cherkessia
Pachystus cribellatum, Irkutsk region
Homeocarabus meander, Amur region
Orinocarabus glabratus, MO
Scambocarabus kruberi ?ssp., Irkutsk region
kruberi ssp. tuberatus, Amur region
Cryptocarabus lindemanni, Alma ata
Leptinocarabus wulffiusi, DV
venustus, DV
Chrysocarabus auronitens ?ssp., Romania, Suceava

This post was edited by RippeR - 05/23/2008 12: 08

Parnassius mnemosyne from Buryatia

There is no mnemosyne in Buryatia.

Dear colleagues, I suggest you post lists of your collections
from families to forms and races
. It will be interesting and useful for everyone, both amateurs and pros.
I'll start the first one on Monday. I hope many people will support me

What is the interest and benefit of such a list? I'm at a loss.

There is no mnemosyne in Buryatia.

That's right, I wrote hastily and still made a mistake, they are not from Buryatia, but from Bryansk. In the post corrected.

What is the interest and benefit of such a list? I'm at a loss.

Personally, I do this primarily for myself - I keep track of my own collection.
Secondly, if anyone is interested in seeing the level of other people's collections..

What is the interest and benefit of such a list? I'm at a loss.

And why not? If everyone puts out a list (even if without much confidence in the definition). If someone is interested in something (on a professional or amateur level), then you can contact the owner of a particular type, arrange a photo, exchange, or "borrow-play". But in my opinion, it would be nice to post such things separately, and not on the forum. There are also lists of personal collections on the web...

And why not? If everyone puts out a list (even if without much confidence in the definition). If someone is interested in something (on a professional or amateur level), then you can contact the owner of a particular type, arrange a photo, exchange, or "borrow-play".

Yes, I'm probably wrong, because I've carefully studied the Sendum list myself. So the interest is present. If the authors of the lists are also willing to provide additional information on instances, then just fine!

Dear Sendum! I was interested in "Oeneis elwesi East Sayan, 10.06.2005". Could you clarify the point of capture? A photo would be great... The fact is that O. elwesi is usually indicated for Tuva, Hr. Eastern Tannu-Ola, and this is still not the Eastern Sayan.

This post was edited by Andylog - 05/24/2008 05: 59

Dear Sendum! I was interested in "Oeneis elwesi East Sayan, 10.06.2005". Could you clarify the point of capture? A photo would be great... The fact is that O. elwesi is usually indicated for Tuva, Hr. Eastern Tannu-Ola, and this is still not the Eastern Sayan.

I added all the exact information about the point to my list. The photo will be presented in a separate shared gallery for all SATYRIDAE. In about a week, check out the Insect Images section

Now everything is fine with Oeneis elwesi!!

but I still don't understand this topic very much

Exactly incomprehensible.
Either the author of the topic pursues purely mercantile goals.
Maybe it was curiosity.
Funny phrase: "I'll start the FIRST one on Monday"
The first ONES HAVE ALREADY STARTED BEFORE Monday, but Alexander is still on the sidelines. We usually have " from Monday, women are going to lose weight." And in general, the author was intrigued - everyone is looking forward to Monday!
Why didn't the topic author register? I would like to know what his interests are in entomology.
After all, there is a topic about sharing, if the purpose of creating a topic is to be able to exchange.

And is it advisable? Everyone knows which view in the collection they have and which one they don't. Who wants to, he puts on display in the "images of collections", who wants to, ask about the type of interest to his colleagues on the forum.

I agree with taler, the topic is not clear.

This post was edited by Morozzz - 05/25/2008 08: 53

In my opinion, the so-called DATABASE is more useful, for example, using the capabilities of ECXEL, in which, in addition to the "stupid" list of taxa, there is a list of places where the specimens come from, their numbers, some comments transferred, for example, from field diaries, and which you do not want to forget; some information based on the missing material, based on your own ideas and preferences of the owner of the collection ..... But this is a painstaking long-term work, in principle, of a personal nature, and just a list is good for quickly searching for a specific type in boxes, if the latter are numbered, the possibility of which, in fact, does not hurt to include in this database. Of course, sometimes it is useful to know who catches what and where, but it seems to me that this does not imply the need to expose the composition of your personal collection to the public. You can also ask in the "personal account".

This post was edited by cajarc - 25.05.2008 18: 53

I'm not sure about my own and other people's language, so I can easily set up, for example, karabuses.. The only thing in doubt is schidleri and excellens frivaldski-who is excellens and whether he is Frivaldski, and who is schidleri.. But in theory, they are still excellences. I won't write the dates - it's too steamy

It would be nice to put a photo on the forum and preferably in a half-turn. And then I very much doubt whether there is a shidleri in Moldova at all. And with Frivaldsky, not everything is clear yet . If it is found in Moldova, it is only as a subspecies of ssp frivaldskyi moldaviensis Born, 1903. Presumably look for it in floodplain forests.

For a sample of nominative excellens-and you can take for example from Kiev copies. from steppe areas. You can ask Nimrod.The rest must be thoroughly reviewed by who's who. In Moldova, there is enough work in this direction.And pay little attention to the current MORPHOCARABUS taxonomy.
Good luck!

This post was edited by rpanin - 26.05.2008 18: 12

Come on, it's all nonsense!amateurs and professionals...just now Ekos asked about lemongrass plants.and all in PM.and so et monkey work.or slicing show-offs, in a thin layer!and this is especially touching -.....Ukraine, Sichuan,etc.

In short, the topic can be closed - all prtiv.. We will take photos of collections and that's it.

rpanin:
I can't say anything about the Schidlers and the Frivaldskys either.. I can only catch them, but I don't understand how to determine them.. And even if there are no clear signs and systematic data.. Let it be so, and I leave the most interesting work-the definition and trial-to the professionals

rpanin:
I can't say anything about the Schidlers and the Frivaldskys either.. I can only catch them, but I don't understand how to determine them.. And even if there are no clear signs and systematic data.. Let it be so, and I leave the most interesting work - the definition and trial-to the professionals

I'm waiting for pictures. Because with my colleagues I am just closely engaged in Eastern European morphocarabuses.

rpanin:
I'll be brief...

all..

In general, so: I upload photos here, so as not to bother with the search for topics and general review.
From myself I add-the first 2 copies. - end of June, 3rd - end of September. There may be interesting observations - the pronotum is slightly different in all cases, as is the body shape, but this is nonsense, the same as the red legs of the second specimen, that there is variability. All caught in the woods, almost all in glasses.

So far, there are no more copies, except for one,but it's a long time to look for it, and it's already night and tomorrow I'll get up early, but if there is at least something interesting in these copies , I'll take a picture of that. Further processing of the photo is left to the pros
I'll catch more beetles, but that's later, but for now, that's all there is
I am waiting for fresh information about these delusional species

Pictures:
  m1.JPG — (78.32к) 27.05.2008 — 10.06.2008
  m1.2.JPG — (98.54 k) 27.05.2008-10.06.2008
  m1.3.JPG — (95.55к) 27.05.2008 — 10.06.2008
  m1.4.JPG — (68.01к) 27.05.2008 — 10.06.2008
  m2.JPG — (86.54 k) 27.05.2008-10.06.2008
  m2.2.JPG — (107.85к) 27.05.2008 — 10.06.2008
  m2.3.JPG — (89.85к) 27.05.2008 — 10.06.2008
  m3.JPG — (102.92к) 27.05.2008 — 10.06.2008
  m3.2.JPG — (107.6к) 27.05.2008 — 10.06.2008
  m3.3.JPG — (82.09к) 27.05.2008 — 10.06.2008

by the way, m2 is still the first copy. a mistake.

If you need more photos (i.e. e in a different quality), then later, because in this light nothing is better.

by the way, m2 is still the first copy. a mistake.

If you need more photos (i.e. e in a different quality), then later, because in this light nothing is better.

In this light, of course, it's hard to say anything .It is necessary that the sides of the elytra are clearly visible. Well, the size is desirable.
m1 is primarily of interest, the rest like excellence close to the nominative with minor aberrations.

here's the supplement.. not all photos are very successful, if you can edit what you need.. If you need more photos, I'll do more. I put out the first and 3rd beetle.

Pictures:
  m1.JPG — (79.57к) 28.05.2008 — 11.06.2008
  m11.JPG — (70.34к) 28.05.2008 — 11.06.2008
  m12.JPG — (66.04к) 28.05.2008 — 11.06.2008
  m13.JPG — (65.28к) 28.05.2008 — 11.06.2008
  m14.JPG — (71.13к) 28.05.2008 — 11.06.2008
  m3.JPG — (99.54к) 28.05.2008 — 11.06.2008
  m31.JPG — (57.39к) 28.05.2008 — 11.06.2008
  m32.JPG — (66.33к) 28.05.2008 — 11.06.2008

here's the supplement.. not all photos are very successful, if you can edit what you need.. If you need more photos, I'll do more. I put out the first and 3rd beetle.

The 3rd one is still close to the nominative with some of your weakly specific aberration.But I can't make out the first one in any way;it seems like there is room for 4-6 gaps behind the third main gap, but somehow it's blurry. Therefore, while I can't say for sure whether it is frivaldsky.Look for yourself carefully, count the total number of gaps .If more than 15 ,then this is the same subspecies of Moldavian.
And what is its size?
And biotope:dry forest, grassy, etc.?
And did you catch excellence in the steppe areas? It would be good to compare them from different biotopes.

Sorry I'm late !
I am a former guest of the forum Alexander after registering on the forum-collector
Thinking about this topic naively thought that there would be enough time.
In practice, there is almost no time - but you need to start.
Here I begin !
1.carabus(megodontus)violaceus ssp.purpurascens n.baeterrensis
France F-30 Roquedur 10.07.1984 2m.2f.
2.carabus(megodontus)violaceus ssp.purpurascens n.pseudofulgens
France F-16 Foret de Braconne 12.06.1984 2m.2f.
3.carabus(megodontus)violaceus ssp.?
Poland 1995 3m.3f. /01/
4.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus
France F-34 La Billiere 05.09.1991 3m.3f. /24/
5.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus ssp.hispanus
France F-34 St.Gervais-Sur Mar 11.10.94 3m.3f. /36/
6.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus ssp.canui n.retaudi
France F-16 Retaud la Foret 20.11.92 3m.3f. /03/
7.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus ssp.hispanus
France F-12 Broquies 04.02.93 3m.3f.
8.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus ssp.canui
France F-19 Beynat 31.11.1991 6m.6f. /24/
9.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus ssp.canui
France F-19 Aubazines 28.12.1987 2m.2f.
10.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus ssp.boudetti
France F-xx Fort de Sadu Drome 19.06.74 1m.0f.

To be continued !

This post was edited by collector-07.06.2008 13: 01

Hi!
A couple of off-the-record questions.

Sorry I'm late !
I am a former guest of the forum Alexander after registering on the forum-collector
Thinking about this topic naively thought that there would be enough time.
In practice, there is almost no time - but you need to start.
Here I begin !
1.carabus(megodontus)violaceus ssp.purpurascens n.baeterrensis
France F-30 Roquedur 10.07.1984 2m.2f.
2.carabus(megodontus)violaceus ssp.purpurascens n.pseudofulgens
France F-16 Foret de Braconne 12.06.1984 2m.2f.
3.carabus(megodontus)violaceus ssp.?
Poland 1995 3m.3f. /01/
4.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus
France F-34 La Billiere 05.09.1991 3m.3f. /24/
5.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus ssp.hispanus
France F-34 St.Gervais-Sur Mar 11.10.94 3m.3f. /36/
6.carabus(chrysotribax)hispanus ssp.canui n.retaudi
France F-16 Retaud la Foret 20.11.92 3m.3f. /03/
Продолжение следует !

I see that all the beetles are marked because of the territory of Russia. In this regard, the question is: where did they come from?
Were they brought from abroad-sent, but declared? Are copies of declarations and green cards still available? Do you have anything else in your collection? And by any chance there are no Red Book species? And if so, what are the catch permits?
And in the end, in accordance with the requirements of Russian legislation, do you have a collection registered?

You, comrades, think with your head about the consequences when creating such topics in open public forums... well, at the same time, succumbing to the provocations of others...
"Ignorance of the law does not exempt from liability for its violation" (c)

It's one thing to post a couple of boxes with butterfly beetles, but another thing is to post lists with hundreds of species.

This post was edited by mikepride - 07.06.2008 11: 54

Dear mikepride,
Legally, insect collectors have nothing to fear in our country at the
moment.And the registration of your private collection under a crude and ill-conceived law is now full of fines and loss thereof.

collector, mikepride's remark is valid. And if you want, you can also "get to the bottom of the post".