Sending insects

Zheldorekspeditsiya?

Zheldor Expedition, what is this? Can it accept goods without a customs signature? Kievsky railway station in Moscow departs to Kazansky railway station in customs, and there, even if you bought boxes for nothing, they say like parrots-Commercial cargo, you have to pay. I tell them that their commercial tariff is equal to the cost of the goods, and they again say their own-commercial cargo, you have to pay. According to their tariff, the cost of 10 boxes for the customer is doubled, and what they did, just looked, just put a seal with a signature and / from the screw/.I, of course, apologize, but, in my opinion, customs clearance of cargo should be subject to at least some arithmetic, not stupid, but look at the stupid state price list. And the Rossi post office charges much less ( if you consider that they have to: pick up the cargo from the city where I left it, pay customs, then transfer the cargo to the train station, pay for storage, pay for delivery to the train station), it seems that they somehow bypass customs. But it's still expensive.
However, I already knew that no one would give any useful advice, because we live in Great Russia. Here you have to go with the flow, and it's so hard, especially when you often leave it.

There is only one tip - to make the weight of the shipment no more than 20 kg., in accordance with the"Rules for the provision of postal services"

There is only one tip - to make the weight of the shipment no more than 20 kg., in accordance with the"Rules for the provision of postal services"

Rather, because none of the forum participants have such experience. These questions should be asked on carrier forums, etc.
Well, some philosophical aspect - you need to go where you need to go, but with the current or against it-it depends on the goal.

I agree, only in our country there is no choice for a swimmer, everything has already been decided for him. It only remains for him not to choke when choosing a direction. Thank you. This is the end of the conversation.

Forumchane, share your experience, how to send mail pupae? After all, if they are packed as ordinary dry material, they will suffocate.

In cardboard boxes, in cotton wool. You can make holes in cardboard.

Today I was returned a parcel with butterflies, which I sent in exchange from Ukraine to Moscow. At customs, they said that a phyto-quarantine certificate should be attached to the butterflies. Although I described the parcel as a " souvenir "(after all, butterflies are still a souvenir to a large extent), but customs somehow found out that there were butterflies there.
Can someone tell me what to do to prevent this from happening again?

Today I was returned a parcel with butterflies, which I sent in exchange from Ukraine to Moscow. At customs, they said that a phyto-quarantine certificate should be attached to the butterflies. Although I described the parcel as a " souvenir "(after all, butterflies are still a souvenir to a large extent), but customs somehow found out that there were butterflies there.
Can someone tell me what to do to prevent this from happening again?

Send it by train. Although it is also very risky, they can simply throw it away at the border.

This post was edited by rpanin - 19.12.2012 19: 20

Write not a souvenir, but something like this-dry dead insects for scientific research, do not represent commercial value. You can also get a certificate from the quarantine service. And customs officers, "with X-ray vision" and shaggy paws, it would be nice to deprive pagan nature for the manifestation of such superpowers.

Write not a souvenir, but something like this-dry dead insects for scientific research, do not represent commercial value. You can also get a certificate from the quarantine service. And customs officers, "with X-ray vision" and shaggy paws, it would be nice to deprive pagan nature for the manifestation of such superpowers.

Recently, this is not enough. They still return packages, you bastards.
I have three parcels passed and the same amount was screwed up. The desire to change is gone. You need to go to Kiev - "negotiate"

This post was edited by rpanin - 19.12.2012 19: 05

Well, you can negotiate with the local quarantine inspectorate - especially since there are usually no quarantine organisms in our parcels. And about the returns - I am tormented by vague doubts that it matters where to send it from - for example, I have never received a parcel back (pah-pah-pah), and my friends from my region also have only a few cases of return. When transmitting with conductors, it is known for sure that it is better not to send trains to Moscow, for example, by Kiev trains, they are rather seriously cowardly. And from us, again, there are almost no problems.

Well, you can negotiate with the local quarantine inspectorate - especially since there are usually no quarantine organisms in our parcels. And about the returns - I am tormented by vague doubts that it matters where to send it from - for example, I have never received a parcel back (pah-pah-pah), and my friends from my region also have only a few cases of return. When transmitting with conductors, it is known for sure that it is better not to send trains to Moscow, for example, by Kiev trains, they are rather seriously cowardly. And from us, again, there are almost no problems.

Kiev returns it back when the parcel is already coming to you. I myself have never had a precedent before. And this fall, as many as three. It can be seen that something has changed for them.

You mean, to us? From us, all parcels to Russia also pass through Kiev.

And the uniform must have changed

Can someone tell me what to do to prevent this from happening again?

To issue a phytosanitary certificate, do not?

The List of quarantined products (quarantined goods, quarantined materials, quarantined goods) subject to quarantine phytosanitary control (supervision) at the customs border of the customs union and the customs territory of the customs union does not include dry insects (including butterflies).
In other words, this is a requirement of the Ukrainian services (customs and phytosanitary services).

To issue a phytosanitary certificate, do not?

The List of quarantined products (quarantined goods, quarantined materials, quarantined goods) subject to quarantine phytosanitary control (supervision) at the customs border of the customs union and the customs territory of the customs union does not include dry insects (including butterflies).
In other words, this is a requirement of the Ukrainian services (customs and phytosanitary services).

That's quite literally. However, the list of regulated products simply spelled "komahi" (insects). And who interprets as he wants. Here the human factor is important. If you're lucky. In addition, insects can also be considered as a collection. And try to prove to them that you are not a camel.
This is from the words of the actual customs officers and quarantine service.

To issue a phytosanitary certificate, do not?

The List of quarantined products (quarantined goods, quarantined materials, quarantined goods) subject to quarantine phytosanitary control (supervision) at the customs border of the customs union and the customs territory of the customs union does not include dry insects (including butterflies).
In other words, this is a requirement of the Ukrainian services (customs and phytosanitary services).

Unfortunately, I can't find the link now, but I saw with MY OWN EYES that "dry insects"are in THIRD PLACE in some CUSTOMS IMPORT LIST. To the right of these words in this table there are three cells where it is noted whether any of the three dreaded documents (certificates, permits, etc.) are required for importing this item.so: opposite "dry insects" is "yes" in all three cases.
And the matter is not "purely Ukrainian": I have not been able to receive a return parcel from Japan for the second month-it is being returned... Moreover, customs does not report a refund at all until you send a request or get through from the seventy-third time. These cute exercises take a lot of time and nerves. Butterflies lose their antennae, people lose their remaining patience... The exchange loses its meaning (as, however, has already been noted).
And one more thing: when I was asked to issue a f/s import certificate, I received a confident refusal without explaining the reason, but with a reference to some regular "document" that quite possibly does not exist at all...

This post was edited by Stapleton - 12/20/2012 17: 06

  
The List of quarantined products (quarantined goods, quarantined materials, quarantined goods) subject to quarantine phytosanitary control (supervision) at the customs border of the customs union and the customs territory of the customs union does not include dry insects (including butterflies).
In other words, this is a requirement of the Ukrainian services (customs and phytosanitary services).

In Ukraine, there are also no dry insects in these lists. I agree with Ruslan, there's probably someone you'll run into.
And if you really need to, in fact - to make a certificate is quite realistic. I never did it myself (there was no need), but I helped my friends with this. Everything is quite real.

That's quite literally. However, the list of regulated products simply spelled "komahi" (insects). And who interprets as he wants. Here the human factor is important. If you're lucky. In addition, insects can also be considered as a collection. And try to prove to them that you are not a camel.
This is from the words of the actual customs officers and quarantine service.

That's what I'm saying-issue a certificate and these problems can be removed. And it will be even easier to issue a certificate for the next parcel

Unfortunately, I can't find the link now, but I saw with MY OWN EYES that "dry insects"are in THIRD PLACE in some CUSTOMS IMPORT LIST. To the right of these words in this table there are three cells where it is noted whether any of the three dreaded documents (certificates, permits, etc.) are required for importing this item.so: opposite "dry insects" is "yes" in all three cases.
And the matter is not "purely Ukrainian": I have not been able to receive a return parcel from Japan for the second month-it is being returned... Moreover, customs does not report a refund at all until you send a request or get through from the seventy-third time. These cute exercises take a lot of time and nerves. Butterflies lose their antennae, people lose their remaining patience... The exchange loses its meaning (as, however, has already been noted).
And one more thing: when I was asked to issue a f/s import certificate, I received a confident refusal without explaining the reason, but with a reference to some regular "document" that quite possibly does not exist at all...

You have seen the old document. Very old, long ago canceled.
Here is the current list - http://www.fsvps.ru/fsvps-docs/ru/laws/tso...ontrol_list.pdf

To Bad Den: Thank you for the detailed comment and reaction in principle, and then I started to get the impression that I wrote my first post with disappearing ink, or got on a forum somewhere in Lviv....
As for the official explanations and indications of the number of the normative act , what is the use of them, by and large? You can't change the result... This is like finding a hole-in sock under the tree instead of a New Year's gift, with an explanation enclosed on stamped paper why the HOLIDAY WILL NOT TAKE PLACE....

This post was edited by Stapleton - 12/21/2012 05: 16

You have seen the old document. Very old, long ago canceled.

Thanks! Should we separate these recommendations into a separate topic? It will be useful for everyone.

And separately ask the moderators to mercilessly clean this topic from the flood.

As for the official explanations and indications of the number of the normative act , what is the use of them, by and large? You can't change the result... This is like finding a hole-in sock under the tree instead of a New Year's gift, with an explanation enclosed on stamped paper why the HOLIDAY WILL NOT TAKE PLACE....

To send a response right here or here (it is necessary to look at the jurisdiction of the customs authority that returned the parcel) with a request to check the validity of their actions.
Yes, this path is not fast, most likely, but on the other hand, water does not flow under a recumbent rock

Thanks! Should we separate these recommendations into a separate topic? It will be useful for everyone.

And separately ask the moderators to mercilessly clean this topic from the flood.

Duc... etta... http://molbiol.ru/forums/index.php?showtopic=256815&st=0

To Bad Den: That's right, but it wouldn't be any consolation for me personally to learn that the Chief Prosecutor's uncle wagged his finger at an overly zealous and ignorant employee who turned "my" parcel 180 degrees, or that unknown bandits (for example) broke a couple of his ribs... And about the "lying stone" - this is not quite the case: the result, I repeat, can not be changed...
Nevertheless, many thanks for your attention to my sorrows...
P.S. And this lawlessness was caused by the Pulkovo customs, where the EMS shipment addressed to the Moscow region got for no reason at all.

This post was edited by Stapleton - 12/22/2012 06: 05

To Bad Den: That's right, but it wouldn't be any consolation for me personally to learn that the Chief Prosecutor's uncle wagged his finger at an overly zealous and ignorant employee who turned "my" parcel 180 degrees, or that unknown bandits (for example) broke a couple of his ribs... And about the "lying stone" - this is not quite the case: the result, I repeat, can not be changed...
Nevertheless, many thanks for your attention to my sorrows...
P.S. And this lawlessness was caused by the Pulkovo customs, where the EMS shipment addressed to the Moscow region got for no reason at all.

You simply don't know what the consequences of the prosecutor's representation are for a particular official and his immediate management, as well as for the situation as a whole.
The global result is to prevent such situations with you and other citizens from happening again.
But, if you yourself are not interested in such a result in the first place, then why make any gestures in defense of your rights to completely strangers?

I didn't actually ask anyone for anything...

This post was edited by Stapleton - 12/22/2012 18: 27

I didn't actually ask anyone for anything...

"I'm not out of envy, I'm just
for the sake of justice, and that's all." (c)

what is the situation with the export of insects from Turkey?
will there be nothing at customs? if you carry a net, syringes with ammonia, and mattresses. Or do you need to be more careful with this?

Everything is in your luggage, pack it tightly and you will be happy.

what is the situation with the export of insects from Turkey?
will there be nothing at customs? if you carry a net, syringes with ammonia, and mattresses. Or do you need to be more careful with this?

Ammonia is perfectly bought on the spot, why carry it?

No one is interested in a net, mattresses, etc.

If you take off from a large airport with a large flow - no problem. But if you decide to fly from the province, you can also search, friends who flew out of Konya last year were gutted politely, but very carefully.

Dear forumchane!
I'm interested in a more mundane topic. How to send butterflies on pins by mail from point "A" to point "B". The sender can't withdraw them, and I've had a bad experience with such forwarding in the past. I have my own idea, but maybe everything is much simpler?

Dear forumchane!
I'm interested in a more mundane topic. How to send butterflies on pins by mail from point "A" to point "B". The sender can't withdraw them, and I've had a bad experience with such forwarding in the past. I have my own idea, but maybe everything is much simpler?

probably better not by mail, but through Yandex. Explorer or by chance?

How to send butterflies on pins by mail from point "A" to point "B".

The box with the tattoo is placed in another, much larger box, with a thick layer of cotton wool laid between them. I didn't try it myself, but a friend says that everything always came without problems.

To Natura; In a straightener made of non-thick foam, with fixing tapes made of polyethylene(as for drying) in postal cardboard boxes, without losses.If there are several such straighteners, then they need to be shifted with cardboard and cotton wool so that the fixing pins do not come into contact with the material.This is how I send it from Vladivostok to you in the west. Everything goes perfectly.

Dear forumchane!
I'm interested in a more mundane topic. How to send butterflies on pins by mail from point "A" to point "B". The sender can't withdraw them, and I've had a bad experience with such forwarding in the past. I have my own idea, but maybe everything is much simpler?

I sent small beetles pasted on triangles, which sometimes fall off by themselves, by courier mail - everything came perfectly. it is not much more expensive than regular Russian Post, but it is much more civilized. we have FedEx and Dimex in our city. FedEx - a little more expensive and, at least in Tambov, payment via bank and a lot of paperwork. I used Dimex-cheaper and people don't ask any questions, there are various delivery options: from doorstep to doorstep, self-pickup by the recipient from their office, a courier can come to you to pick up the parcel, and so on. No documents from you, etc., just your contact phone number. Payment at the place of departure in cash. If samozabor is a recipient, then enter only your last name, city, and phone number to contact. If you send material for identification, then for a refund, the person comes to them or calls the courier and puts a check mark in the form that the recipient will pay , i.e. You are upon receipt. VERY convenient!
I sent it in a food container with foam on the bottom-stronger than a box with glass and lighter. naturally, the krupnyak needs to be fixed so that it does not spin.
good luck!
ps flower-just missed

This post was edited by AGG - 10.04.2013 11: 48

probably better not by mail, but through Yandex. Explorer or by chance?

The guides are not taking any transmissions right now - the fight against drug trafficking is underway!

why I "love" Russian post - everything is simple and clear
"it's convenient to be with us!"
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Such failures in the program are now common in Yandex. Mail. Shipments are confused by their numbers. look at the dates and everything will become clear

dates!? duc there and 2012 and 2013!
in vain they put computers-grandmothers are afraid of these "buttons" and do not know what to do with them

dates!? duc there and 2012 and 2013!
in vain they put computers-grandmothers are afraid of these "buttons" and do not know what to do with them

We have no grannies left at the post office for a long time - all girls are young

who are also afraid of buttons and don't know what to do with them

Related - 4 parcels from France and Germany sent 2 months ago, still not received, and no number is tracked, this is how Russian Post works

This post was edited by Albatus - 04/27/2013 14: 57