When did you accidentally ruin the collection items?

Well, that's nothing. Once I even had to collect a beetle for spare parts (I arrived in a cigarette pack all broken and the legs were lost) . The hand did not rise to throw out (Heliocopris gigas after all) and I glued his paws from the Madagascar cockroach Here is my example:

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Here razspravil karapuzika Atholus bimaculatus
(http://www.colpolon.biol.uni.wroc.pl/atholus%20bimaculatus.htm) from the Crimea.I picked up the lamp and I see the beetle is crushed and the pronotum is broken, I can see it blew and it flew off on the table where I put the lamp, I was to blame for being inattentive then.
What should I do,leave the bug or it is banal?

Since I think that such things happen to many of us, I suggest that you also admire your little grief,since not everyone is doing as well as it seems.

What should I say? The crack is healthy! On the other hand, the paws-legs, antennae, parts with definite signs are intact. My verdict: if I had more copies of the same type, I probably wouldn't have put them on. If a single instance - would leave.

Well, that's nothing. Once I even had to collect a beetle for spare parts (I arrived in a cigarette pack all broken and the legs were lost) . The hand did not rise to throw out (Heliocopris gigas after all) and I glued his paws from the Madagascar cockroach Here is my example:

But this is absolutely not acceptable! Frankensteins in the collection - nonsense! I consider it unacceptable even to collect one beetle from several defective specimens of the same species. It's better to let it be without paws than with other people's "spare parts". And if we talk about the assembly of broken beetles - well, I had to, but only from the fact that this particular beetle fell off. Now I will look for and display one such mustache that I have collected.

But this is absolutely not acceptable! Frankensteins in the collection - nonsense! I consider it unacceptable even to collect one beetle from several defective specimens of the same species. It's better to let it be without paws than with other people's "spare parts". And if we talk about the assembly of broken beetles - well, I had to, but only from the fact that this particular beetle fell off. Now I will look for and display one such mustache that I have collected.

Well, in the end, this is the same example (the bug is not subject to ejection).

Well, in the end, this is the same example (the bug is not subject to ejection).

I agree, not subject to. But you should never have glued his legs from the cockroach!

I agree, not subject to. But you should never have glued his legs from the cockroach!

Yes, I was so hot and aesthetically pasted (it was too annoying for me).

Here's the Batocera barbel. It was brought from Thailand. Apparently, it rotted, and when softened in the desiccator, it broke up into all possible segments. In this specimen, almost everything is glued together: each segment of the antennae (one to the other), the head to the chest, the anterior chest to the middle chest and abdomen, and the legs... But all the parts are from the same bug!

Here's the Batocera barbel. It was brought from Thailand. Apparently, it rotted, and when softened in the desiccator, it broke up into all possible segments. In this specimen, almost everything is glued together: each segment of the antennae (one to the other), the head to the chest, the anterior chest to the middle chest and abdomen, and the legs... But all the parts are from the same bug!

Well, that's what it's supposed to be. Congratulations! (it turned out really well).

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 04.11.2009 17: 03

Well, I always tear off other people's paws from my copra! In general, I suggest that everyone share their misfortune of this kind in this topic.

Well, I always tear off other people's paws from my copra!

Right! Cockroach hooves don't suit him. Let him remain a well-deserved amputee.

Right! Cockroach hooves don't suit him. Let him remain a well-deserved amputee.

And do you imagine how I "winged" when I brought it like this from southern Egypt?

I have a great idea! I have had several beetles brought to me in this state, most recently from Egypt, too, by the way, several Pentodon(s) and one male Temnorhynchus baal.

In this specimen, almost everything is glued together: each segment of the antennae (one to the other), the head to the chest, the anterior chest to the middle chest and abdomen, and the legs... But all the parts are from the same bug!

May I ask what kind of glue you used?

This post was edited by Evgenich - 04.11.2009 17: 41

To the article about glue, I do not have a water-soluble entomological glue, I glue PVA.
I have a hard-to-dissolve < < PVA Moment>>.Previously, I used to glue the segments of the legs if the beetle broke off,but a friend advised me to glue everything with water-soluble glue, if there is no such simple PVA...

I remember a friend saying that if a butterfly does not have antennae, then you can moisten a black thread with glue and glue it=)))))))))).When I was 15, I ate a male horned beetle's tendril from a female ... well, I overdid it, why sin so much

Today I glued the last segment of the antennae on PVA to 8 millimitrovy staphylin.3 attempts were successful...Still need claws Magdalis sp. stick (I was told that it is not real, and even without binoculars)...

This post was edited by Liparus-04.11.2009 18: 12

Liparus
PVA is not the best glue for this purpose. If you need to do something with the bug, there will be problems. When soaked, it becomes like a rubber sole. To get, for example, to the foot, you will have to make an incision on top of the glue-a solid hemorrhoid! We need to find a normal glue - Hercules. As far as I know, it is not sold here (probably in a special store). that's what it is). Ask your friends to bring them from over the hill.
Without binoculars - not really, but with it, I think that there will be no problems, if you, of course, have experience. The beetle is quite large.

This post was edited by Evgenich - 04.11.2009 18: 34

May I ask what kind of glue you used?

ПВА.

  Liparus
We need to find a normal glue - Hercules. As far as I know, it is not sold here (probably in a special store). that's what it is). Ask your friends to bring them from over the hill.

For sale. You can even order it by mail. Follow this link here. Total and business - 150 rubles.
http://www.entomon.ru/online/goodsGroup.ph...639c513ff8aaa15

male Temnorhynchus baal.

By the way, it may not be baal - there are many of them in Africa.

Also about the glue. Quote: "The best glue for insects is celluloid. It's not hard to do. Plexiglass (better than plexiglass sawdust) is dissolved in acetone, and even better-in pear essence (it is also called amyl acetate). The resulting adhesive should be almost transparent and viscous. In addition to celluloid, cherry glue is used. It is obtained by dissolving pieces of frozen cherry tree juice in water (they can be collected on injured areas of the trunk). When there is nothing else, use a thick photo glue." Kozlov M. and Ninburg E. "Your collection" Moscow "Prosveshchenie" 1971.
From myself: I have never used this recipe (I crawl with thick PVA).
P.S. An obvious blunder that cannot be used 100% is highlighted in red.
The other two recipes are worth paying attention to.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 05.11.2009 13: 07

I tried four varieties of pitches. I didn't like it and now I use PVA. In water, if necessary, and from the PVA perfectly the beetle sticks off, and the resins are inevitably etched into the die. In addition, after soaking, PVA is removed with a film, and resins in the form of swollen gel particles, which is not good - it is much more difficult to clean.

This post was edited by Mylabris - 05.11.2009 16: 50

I always used glue Bf-6.

For the life of me, I don't understand: Why use PVA, BF-6 and others like them, when for these purposes there is a wonderful glue - Hercules? Moreover, as it turns out, it is available for sale.
I have the most negative attitude towards PVA. I had to remount small beetles. This very film of swollen PVA in the form of "rubber" sometimes led to the breakdown of the beetle. When you tried to clean the beetle from the film, small parts simply fell apart, and then they had to be re-glued with Hercules. Another negative point is that after the second drying, the PVA never became transparent.
However, I may be getting hot because I work with very small objects. Maybe for large beetles, this (PVA) is not fatal.

Isn't there a glue that sticks to death, is insoluble in water, isn't visible, and doesn't show up when soaked? The fact is that the valuable beetle broke in the middle of the mustache. Sticking joint to joint is not a problem. But since repeated soaking may be required, it is undesirable that it falls off every time, especially since re-gluing usually turns out worse.

Isn't there a glue that sticks to death, is insoluble in water, isn't visible, and doesn't show up when soaked? The fact is that the valuable beetle broke in the middle of the mustache. Sticking joint to joint is not a problem. But since repeated soaking may be required, it is undesirable that it falls off every time, especially since re-gluing usually turns out worse.

SuperMoment-Horseradish Gel-take it away

SuperMoment-Horseradish Gel-you'll get rid of it

With the reliability of gluing is clear . What about the other requirements? There is a waterproof glue "Super Moment" from O. O. O. "INTER GLOBUS", will it work? But there is no word "gel", or is it not important?

There is a waterproof glue "Super Moment" from O. O. O. "INTER GLOBUS", will it work?

Try it on some unnecessary instance.

If not a gel, but just a carpenter's supermoment, then after the desiccation, the joint becomes white again.. And you can ask and nafik once mounted beetle a hundred times to excite?

If not a gel, but just a carpenter's supermoment, then after the desiccation, the joint becomes white again.. And you can ask and nafik once mounted beetle a hundred times to excite?

You may need to remove it from the die for inspection of the bottom, for photos, to clarify the definition, and transfer it to others. the base, if the old one gets fat. To send, in my opinion, it is also better to remove from the die, grouping the protruding parts.

And nafika just mochalit beetle then? Wet and separate the die

And nafika just mochalit beetle then? Wet the die and separate it

so I straighten the sawyere and glue it to the die with a "Hercules", water will soak it in one fell swoop, the glued part will fall off anyway.

so I straighten the sawyere and glue it to the die with a "Hercules", water will soak it in one fell swoop, the glued part will fall off anyway.

Ahhh at the barbels.. well, then take a picture of the bottom once and for all What to watch there.. Vashcheto I glued with nail polish before if carefully then fine and you can re-glue it by wetting it with a solvent or nail remover just need to be careful excess varnish can run over the first segment of the mustache and it will look dirty.

glue on a triangle or a thin plate under the side.

Oh, to spoil the beetle-eka trouble. I once had a book fall into an open box with a buzzer from the top shelf (ironically, a fly detector). Almost two dozen valuable (for me) copies were lost.
And yet, when there were no normal pins and you had to use Soviet "hooks", they constantly clung imperceptibly to the sleeves of the sweater, were badly damaged or were found only on the floor.

As for gluing - I used to try to glue it on the object itself with PVA, now I just glue the fallen off tendril, leg, etc.to the die and pin it under the "disabled person". I guess I'm not an aesthete.

This post was edited by scarabee - 12/31/2009 18: 21