Butterflies in fat

Buy gasoline for lighters, because it is the cleanest, preferably Zippo (tested). Put the butterflies there (completely) for 2-3 days, depending on the size of the butterfly, then take out the butterfly and dry it (wait 10-20 minutes and you will be surprised). For moths, after complete drying, it is very easy, just by blowing, to straighten out all the fluffy parts, if necessary (after gasoline, they do not stick together anyway).
I advise you, before you immerse in gasoline, you can spread the butterfly, gasoline is so good that the spread butterflies have neither wings nor antennae. if you can not straighten it, then do not hesitate to soak and straighten the butterfly after you get rid of the fat.
Gasoline must be disposed of after use. For fun, you can pour gasoline into the water and see how much fat was in your butterflies
So I do it and I am very happy with the result, the butterflies are obtained as soon as they are caught.
Good luck.

Thank you very much!!!
I'll try again...

I fully subscribe to the use of Zippo gasoline. Tested repeatedly on different groups of butterflies. Works.

Dear forumchane!
Tell me, please, what kind of infection is this???

And you did not keep them for an hour for a long time (a day or two) with ethyl acetate vapors?

Duc, "Galosha" goes for this.

Duc, "Galosha" goes for this.

In the conditions of an apartment, it is quite toxic. Zippo gasoline has a faint smell and does not cause any problems when it gets on the skin. Although in the conditions of a private house, or an open balcony, "Galosha" goes with a bang (also taking into account the financial efficiency).

acetone (alcohol is worse) draw out fat and dry, lay wings with thin pieces of pumice

Buy gasoline for lighters, because it is the cleanest, preferably Zippo (tested). Put the butterflies there (completely) for 2-3 days, depending on the size of the butterfly, then take out the butterfly and dry it (wait 10-20 minutes and you will be surprised). For moths, after complete drying, it is very easy, just by blowing, to straighten out all the fluffy parts, if necessary (after gasoline, they do not stick together anyway).
I advise you, before you immerse in gasoline, you can spread the butterfly, gasoline is so good that the spread butterflies have neither wings nor antennae. if you can not straighten it, then do not hesitate to soak and straighten the butterfly after you get rid of the fat.
Gasoline must be disposed of after use. For fun, you can pour gasoline into the water and see how much fat was in your butterflies
So I do it and I am very happy with the result, the butterflies are obtained as soon as they are caught.
Good luck.

And how to drown butterflies in gasoline, they are light and will float up...

"Buy gasoline for lighters, because it is the cleanest, preferably Zippo (tested). Put the butterflies there (completely) for 2-3 days, depending on the size of the butterfly, then take out the butterfly and dry it, (wait 10-20 minutes and you will be surprised smile.gif). For moths, after complete drying, it is very easy, just by blowing, to straighten out all the fluffy parts, if necessary (after gasoline, they do not stick together anyway)."

And what, 100% helps? Interestingly, a butterfly from swimming in gasoline, does not get saturated with it like a sponge?
And will the trick with a huge hawk moth pass7

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And what, 100% helps? Interestingly, a butterfly from swimming in gasoline, does not get saturated with it like a sponge?
And will the trick with a huge hawk moth pass7
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That's just for this purpose, the use of gasoline is appropriate and logical.Inside the butterfly, gasoline will not be absorbed,and the fat from its surface will wash off.For your hawk moth, this is quite suitable.

This post was edited by TEMPUS - 28.08.2010 18: 56

Oh, great, then I'll buy it. And how many days to bathe such an elephant?

2-3 days I think will suffice

Butterflies in fat are nothing. Bbuchku on a pin throw in gasoline (aviation). For a period of 5 hours to 12 hours. Then it dries. Especially large ones can be bathed repeatedly. With my own hands, I cleaned several thousand kossids, because this is the most disgusting group in terms of salting.

Butterflies in fat are nothing. Bbuchku on a pin throw in gasoline (aviation). For a period of 5 hours to 12 hours. Then it dries. Especially large ones can be bathed repeatedly. With my own hands, I cleaned several thousand kossids, because this is the most disgusting group in terms of salting.

Roman, should the butterfly be drowned in gasoline with something, or should it float on the surface?

Butterflies in fat are nothing. Bbuchku on a pin throw in gasoline (aviation). For a period of 5 hours to 12 hours. Then it dries. Especially large ones can be bathed repeatedly. With my own hands, I cleaned several thousand kossids, because this is the most disgusting group in terms of salting.

I bathed two pandoras in Galosha gasoline for 14 hours, I attach photos before and after. Of course, much better, but not completely washed off the fat! What's the matter, what did I do wrong? Or should I keep it longer?

"...you throw a butterfly on a pin in gasoline..."
Where's the pin?
The material must be straightened and then "bathed".

"...you throw a butterfly on a pin in gasoline..."
Where's the pin?
The material must be straightened and then "bathed".

To bathe a straightened one, as I understand it, you need to pour half a liter of gasoline, rather in a large container, and somehow attach a needle to the bottom of the container so that the butterfly does not float up, and so in a small container of one hundred grams and lying down two at once. Depth of 1 cm and pressed to the bottom with tweezers, periodically moving them to wash out between the wings. And how to bathe a straightened one, to be honest, I didn't understand... But it didn't work out. I think it will be good to repeat?

I pressed them to the bottom with tweezers, periodically moving them so that they would be washed out between the wings. And how to bathe a straightened one, to be honest, I didn't understand...

I think the fat didn't completely dissolve because you didn't keep it in the gasoline long enough.
Straightened I think to bathe in the same way-put in gasoline and wait.

Question in the topic. I still can't make up my mind to bathe my kossuses (they're all so ugly). In general, is it really possible to bring it to a normal state, or even not worth taking it?
Example:

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Yes, you need a lot of gas.
As they say today "really the toad crushes"

Yes, you need a lot of gas.
As they say today, "the toad really crushes"

Yes, gasoline is not a problem. I'm just afraid to make it worse.

It may not be perfect, but it will be very good.
As a last resort, practice on a low-value, greasy butterfly.

This post was edited by Egorus-26.01.2011 22: 04

And I first soak, and then throw in acetone. Then I put it on a napkin and dry it on the battery. The napkin instantly absorbs all leftovers. After that, I soak it again and straighten it out. I don't know why, but if you throw a dry butterfly in acetone, the end result is slightly worse. There were no problems. In a jar of acetone pour on the bottom of the "Katsan". It pulls fat out of the acetone and the acetone lasts longer.
I asked for a Galosha in a hardware store, so they don't know what it is. Here it was repeatedly said that it is better. And where to buy it?

This post was edited by Sugercete - 27.01.2011 13: 56

I asked for a Galosha in a hardware store, so they don't know what it is. Here we have repeatedly said that it is better. And where to buy it?

Strange hardware store you have (you should know it everywhere) about gasoline, ask them again.
In my case, this is what it looks like (packing 303g.) and is in almost any household:

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 27.01.2011 13: 15

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Strange hardware store you have (you should know it everywhere) about gasoline, ask them again.

Regular refined gasoline. Aka Nefras, aka Solvent
Thanks



I will try

Regular refined gasoline. Aka Nefras, aka Solvent
Thanks



I'll try it

Yeah, where: varnishes, paints, solvents it should be.

And yet, gasoline for lighters, I think is best suited for this. You can use not only the same Zippo, but also other analogues, cheaper. I buy an analog of Zippo for $ 2 a bottle. These five bottles were enough for me for 3 vinegar, 5 khokhlatok, 5 hawkmoth, a couple of diaries and 10 pieces of moth and a scoop.
I prefer to straighten first, and then soak, firstly, as we have already said, an unfolded butterfly becomes brittle from gasoline and it is more difficult to straighten it, and secondly, it is gasoline for lighters that does not affect the spread wings and does not require re-spreading.
I keep butterflies, depending on the size and fat content from 1 to 3 days.
Another advantage of gasoline for lighters is its relative non-toxicity and practical odorlessness.
The straightened material is placed in gasoline in a box with a plastic bottom in which I insert a pin. There were no problems with the material surfacing.

I always degrease in acetone - I take a plastic poltorashka, cut off the bottom to make a glass, where the acetone is poured, then put the straightened butterflies there along with pins. I cover all this with a neck cut off from the same poltorashki, so that it does not smell particularly. Then, I blot the butterfly out with a napkin and blow on it to evaporate the remnants of acetone. the result is excellent! You don't need to re-distribute it either.

This post was edited by Konung - 27.01.2011 17: 13

And no one had such a thing that after acetone, the head of the pin falls off?

I always degrease in acetone - I take a plastic poltorashka, cut off the bottom to make a glass, where the acetone is poured, then put the straightened butterflies there along with pins. I cover all this with a neck cut off from the same poltorashki, so that it does not smell particularly. Then, I blot the butterfly out with a napkin and blow on it to evaporate the remnants of acetone. the result is excellent! You don't need to re-distribute it either.

Well, in this glass of poltorashki probably only 3-4 pigeons will fit, and 2 swallowtails already in any way, God forbid one. How do you fix the needles in this glass so that the butterflies don't float?

Well, I held it for another day. It's getting better. I consider the result satisfactory. I haven't seen the top yet, though. I put it to soak, I'll straighten it out tomorrow, I'll unsubscribe about the rigidity when straightening.

And no one had such a thing that after acetone, the head of the pin falls off?

I had this once, since then I put it without a pin, and pull it out with a teaspoon

Well, in this glass of poltorashki probably only 3-4 pigeons will fit, and 2 swallowtails already in any way, God forbid one. How do you fix the needles in this glass so that the butterflies don't float?

yes, as if several woodworms or a scoop are easily placed, but what prevents you from taking a larger container if necessary? Have your swallowtails grown fat?? I don't fix the needles, let them float, what's wrong with that? they can't break because of this, I don't stir them there with a spoon

Have your swallowtails grown fat??

No swallowtails are not fat. Hawks only have a little bit of belly, but not like pandoras. Some more polychromatic flowers (wings).

And no one had such a thing that after acetone, the head of the pin falls off?

My head almost always falls off after acetone. But I do not pay attention to this, the pin is normal. But the fringe sometimes sticks together and it is not happy...

But the fringe sometimes sticks together and it is not happy...

the fringe can easily be smoothed out with a soft brush or even just hold it with a pin - usually it turns out without any problems.

the fringe can easily be smoothed out with a soft brush or even just hold it with a pin - usually it turns out without any problems.

Here the key word is "usually", because after acetone, no pin straightens the fringe "usually". Probably it's the acetone and it's better to use Zippo. Another strange thing is that the fringe sticks together in about one butterfly out of 10.

Straightened the female pandora. Nothing unusual when straightening. They talked about the stiffness after gasoline. I did not notice any stiffness when straightening, everything was as usual quite soft and mobile. My conclusion is that it is better to bathe in gasoline with folded wings, and then spread them out.