Narod hosting doesn't have long to live...

Owners of sites located on a free hosting service narod.ru the following letters were sent out::

I didn't receive such an email. Thank you for the information!

I understand that freebies and vinegar are sweet, but still: incomprehensible conditions for moving people, less flexible site management, sophisticated interface, advertising banners, including erotic ones...

Where does this information come from?

What do you think to do, colleagues?

I don't know yet. I need to think about it. Actually, I've been thinking about moving for quite some time, but not too seriously, mainly due to the fact that my site has already taken root and there are quite a lot of links to it from other pages.

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Where does this information come from?
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unclear conditions for moving - because representatives of uCoz either have not yet decided what the hosting conditions for "popular" sites will be, or they are silent. In general, there is no clear information.
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less flexible site management, sophisticated interface - based on uCoz users ' reviews and their own experience. Try to register there and delve into their interface - you will be horrified.
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advertising banners, including-of an erotic nature-based on the reviews of uCos users. (currently, the ad window is empty). Is it supposed to ?temporary? exemption from advertising for "popular" sites. And also, if the administration narod.ru if you didn't install an advertising banner on your site (while it was still on Narod), then it won't be available even after you move to uCoz. But the Yukozyans will start complaining about discrimination

I also received such a letter the other day.
I think we'll wait and see what happens after the fact. If you are not satisfied, then I will buy a domain name (5-7 pupaars per year). And it remains to find a free hosting service without advertising (or with correct advertising), since there are such services. For example -
http://hostinger.com.ua/besplatnui-hosting
http://free.1gb.ua/
http://host-ua.org.ua/freehosting.php
http://tops.org.ua/zarubezhnyy-besplatnyy-hosting.html

I also received such a letter the other day.
I think we'll wait and see what happens after the fact. If you are not satisfied, then I will buy a domain name (5-7 pupaars per year). And it remains to find a free hosting service without advertising (or with correct advertising), since there are such services. For example -
http://hostinger.com.ua/besplatnui-hosting
http://free.1gb.ua/
http://host-ua.org.ua/freehosting.php
http://tops.org.ua/zarubezhnyy-besplatnyy-hosting.html

And if you're going to buy a domain anyway, why free hosting?

Who has sites with butterflies associated and who gets tired of the People, I can fix you sites on subdomains Lepidoptera.ru (yourname.lepidoptera.ru), and those who do not have a site or are half-dead - you can fix it in projects and without subdomains. You won't need any money, I'll help you with the transfer, and there will clearly be more resources than on free hosts. I will not hang up" Erotic advertising": -)
If you want , you can transfer it directly as it was on the people in the 19th century, if you want on a more modern engine, you can try on a modern one. If you need mail - it will be mail with your subdomain. If you need to synchronize somewhere with the modeling databases , we will synchronize them. Don't -- we won't. You will have all the necessary keys, and you can make backups at any time, i.e. you will always have a safety net if you want to move somewhere else.
P. S. Well, yes, if you still have access to the old shares on free hosts, you can fix redirects so that everyone who came through the old links is automatically redirected to the new pages.

This post was edited by Asar-04.02.2013 03: 11

And if you're going to buy a domain anyway, why free hosting?

Because I don't see the point in buying something that is given for free.
If the hosting service ceases to suit, I will move to another one. The main thing is that the domain will remain. And re-uploading html to another location is a short-lived task.

Re-upload is not long, it is more difficult with indexing and links from other sites.

It doesn't take long to re-upload, it's more difficult with indexing and links from other sites.

Well, if the domain is saved, then both links and indexing are saved. What difference does it make on which server the files are physically located, if the domain name is what it was, and remains so? Or is there something I don't understand?

This post was edited by okoem - 02/04/2013 18: 13

Well, if the domain is saved, then both links and indexing are saved. What difference does it make on which server the files are physically located, if the domain name is what it was, and remains so? ...

Yes, I really got carried away with free hosting services and forgot that the domain is supposed to be bought

I can shelter someone on my host. I'll also help you switch from html to Joomla (I didn't work with other text messages). As a thank you, I only ask for a banner for two of my sites )

Due to the transfer of the site to ucoz, there were some technical problems that prevented further work on the site. In this connection, I decided to buy a domain name and try another hosting service.
Domain purchased/registered on tuthost.com, there were no problems with this. And then... To "connect" a domain to hosting, you need to specify the names of the hoster's servers in the domain properties. And then-wait for the registrar to register manually(!) these settings are somewhere in there. I don't know what's so complicated that it prevents me from making automatic changes, but I've been waiting for six days now - the registrar still hasn't found the time to enter the necessary data. The support service responded: "Wait."
As for hosting, I registered on http://hostinger.com.ua. But there was the following situation-it is stated that 2 GB is given, and 2 GB is also indicated in the account properties. In reality, I can only upload 735 MB. Then I get a message - "the place is exhausted". In the account properties, I see "Used 735 out of 2000". The support service responded with silence.

Due to the transfer of the site to ucoz, there were some technical problems that prevented further work on the site.

Can I explain which ones?

The ucoz server and the editor that I use to create the site use different encodings. So, I can't work with the site normally.
In addition, ucoz forcibly changes the html code of flooded pages, which is not acceptable to me.

Register directly with the registrar.
To host — on a decent hosting service. However, this does not happen (in the case of a virtual one). But there is a certain approximation.
There is no need to save money there. The difference between the fifth generation of intermediaries plus lousy hosting and a normal registrar and decent hosting is not so great when we build one small site.
6 days of prescribing ns-s — in the bath, without hesitation.
The silence of technical support for more than one working day plus the lack of technical support by phone (or at least via IM) - the same thing. This is if we save money. And if we do not save, then we are not talking about any working day. Maximum one-hour delay around the clock.

This post was edited by Asar - 25.04.2013 00: 48

The ucoz server and the editor that I use to create the site use different encodings. So, I can't work with the site normally.
In addition, ucoz forcibly changes the html code of flooded pages, which is not acceptable to me.

Vladimir (if I'm not mistaken), I can accommodate you here. The hosting service is hosted by the Americans. somewhere in a year, the sites were unavailable probably a couple of times just for a short time.

This post was edited by KingSnake - 04/25/2013 13: 24

I completely agree with Peter (Asar).
Domain separately, hosting separately. You should not register a domain through a hoster - in some cases, you may have difficulties managing the domain. Also, you should not buy hosting from a domain registrar - the main function of the registrar is registration, and hosting is an additional feature that can often have reduced capabilities. Also, don't get carried away with offers like: domain for 99 rubles.
I registered the domain at http://nic.ru/ There were no problems with linking to ns servers. Everything is as promised - a few hours.
I bought hosting from http://www.radiushost.ru/, technical support responds quickly, but I had to leave them, because their servers often "lie". When I noticed that the site was not available (you can track its availability), I wrote to them about it... and when I didn't notice it in time, God knows how long the site was not available until they noticed it themselves or until it turned on itself.
As a result, I switched to http://mchost.ru/. They give 4 ns addresses and promise 100% uptime. Technical support-live chat around the clock. They explain everything down to the smallest detail.
Binding to the new ns took several hours - in the evenings I specified new ones, in the morning everything is OK.
And with the encoding, I think, there will be problems not only on yukoz. Apparently, the pages were written in Windows encoding (Cyrillic)?

I seem to have moved everything painlessly (pah-pah). I'll sit on ukoz for now ))

I completely agree with Peter (Asar).

something insectamo is running very slowly... what is the reason for this?

something insectamo is running very slowly... what is the reason for this?

sometimes there are brakes... I don't know why. But is it slow now? They open instantly for me.

sometimes there are brakes... I don't know why. But is it slow now? They open instantly for me.

It works fine (at least for me): 20 Mbit/s channel. and the computer is connected via the router. Well, on the computer itself antivir with a firewall are.
I will even say that the site works faster on a new host than on people.

yes, it's fine now, but when I wrote the previous message, it slowed down, and then stopped working altogether...

Due to the specifics of my work, I dealt with quite a large number of domestic hosting providers (virtual hosting). Everyone has glitches and "technical work" when sites sag. Accordingly, 100% uptime is 100% bullshit (or such rounding, aha :--). And the Radius, by the way, did not bother with non-working sites (they had et like everyone else, but they quickly coped, perhaps, in this sense they stand out for the better), but the fact that their IP addresses were included in international black lists of spam, and my mail often did not reach people (i.e. I didn't get into spam, but I didn't get it at all). At the same time, they changed the IP several times, but it always ended up the same. Well, since also Lepidoptera.ru it grew so much that it was no longer enough for a regular virtual host, so it had to move to a dedicated one with the Germans. Since then, if there were any problems, it was only related to NS, which seem to be transferred to another office.

This post was edited by Asar - 25.04.2013 18: 56

And I use third-party mailboxes, so for me, the main problem on the Site is the server hanging.

... Since then, if there were any problems, it was only related to NS, which seem to be transferred to another office.

And how is it possible - to another one?

yes, it's fine now, but when I wrote the previous message, it slowed down, and then stopped working altogether...

With temporary server brakes, you will probably have to put up with it.
Although... on the People, in my opinion, it always worked stably-if it doesn't work, then it doesn't work at all, but rarely.
There are some ways to speed up the site, but I haven't done it yet. But in fact, if the server works as it should, then these accelerations (in my case) will not affect much - it itself works quickly; and if the server slows down, then again - there is no use from accelerations.

And with the encoding, I think, there will be problems not only on yukoz. Apparently, the pages were written in Windows encoding (Cyrillic)?

windows-1251

What does it mean to force code changes? Adds your own banner?

Yes. At the same time, if the people's banner was not "embedded" in html, then on UKOZ, the banner code was inserted into each html.

In general, since recently, the site is available at http://www.lepidoptera.crimea.ua/
Hosting service http://uhostfull.com/free-hosting.php - free of charge, without a banner or any restrictions. There is no problem with the encoding. The only drawback that I have noticed so far is that I got the impression that FTP is somewhat slower than it was on Yandex.
By the way, ns was prescribed to me quickly this time.

  

In general, since recently, the site is available at http://www.lepidoptera.crimea.ua/
Hosting service http://uhostfull.com/free-hosting.php - free of charge, without a banner or any restrictions. There is no problem with the encoding. The only drawback that I have noticed so far is that I got the impression that FTP is somewhat slower than it was on Yandex.
By the way, ns was prescribed to me quickly this time.

Vladimir, so you can change the link to a new one?
And now what about the Yandex Map Editor version - will it be updated?

You can change the link. At least in the new location, the site is still working normally, and I hope that it will continue to do so.

The Yandex Map Editor version will not be updated and will be closed later.

In general, since recently, the site is available at http://www.lepidoptera.crimea.ua/
Hosting service http://uhostfull.com/free-hosting.php - free of charge, without a banner or any restrictions. There is no problem with the encoding. The only drawback that I have noticed so far is that I got the impression that FTP is somewhat slower than it was on Yandex.
By the way, ns was prescribed to me quickly this time.

The site "died"? Or did the hoster screw up?
The second day I see this picture:

Pictures:

pic.jpg — (55.56к)

An average shared hosting service (which will be enough for a typical personal website) costs 150 rubles per month. Nafiga this whole economy, it is clear that there are no freebies, and the free one will either immediately be worse than the paid one or it will gradually die out.

The site "died"? Or did the hoster screw up?
The second day I see this picture:

I have the same thing and also the last two days. I join the question.

To okoyem: Vladimir, run away from such freebies! My advice.
The picture has changed:

Very eloquent. Do they have a Pentium 1 server built, or something?

Exactly: "Free cheese only happens in a mousetrap"

An average shared hosting service (which will be enough for a typical personal website) costs 150 rubles per month. Nafiga this whole economy, it is clear that there are no freebies, and the free one will either immediately be worse than the paid one or it will gradually die out.

Well, yes! This is not a typical personal website, and very much so!
I think that a minimum of 1000 UAH per year is needed for such a site, and that is probably not enough.
Still, it was necessary to stay on ukoz, even if it was better to advertise and all sorts of inconsistencies, but at least some guarantees.

In general, the problems are amazing, such a site could have been built by our officials from science daaavno on the hosting of some Crimean university.

I stayed on ukoz. I didn't spare them $3/month to disable ads. It's too disgusting for them... As for the rest, so far everything seems to be normal. Of course, it was somehow more pleasant on the people, but what can you do?

Well, yes! This is not a typical personal website, and very much so!
I think that a minimum of 1000 UAH per year is needed for such a site, and that is probably not enough.

Roman, this is an excellent site in terms of content, but it doesn't require anything special in terms of hosting requirements. No 1000 UAH is needed there.

In general, the problems are amazing, such a site could have been built by our officials from science daaavno on the hosting of some Crimean university.

If someone really has problems with hosting, I can ask myself for so hang up. Vladimir, now I'll send you a message in the BOS. If it is relevant — please contact us.

This post was edited by Asar - 26.10.2013 01: 52

The site "died"? Or did the hoster screw up?

Some kind of glitch at the hoster. HTM files don't open, everything else (jpg, DjVu...) it's loading. Ftp works.
http://www.lepidoptera.crimea.ua/2504_Noct...0617-121124.jpg
This picture has already been seen two or three times, but it didn't last very long. This time it was delayed...