Butterfly bags

Good for everyone. These are the only ones I use to collect in the field. Already 5 years old. Comfortable. It opens with one hand; you can safely hold it with your lips (when there are several copies). in the net and hands are not enough); butterfly wings do not cling and do not wipe when moving, if suddenly ex. not crushed, it turns out; stored compactly in a candy box in your pocket. It's easy to have a huge supply with you. The material practically does not dry on the road. Even, for example, desert Zegrys or Apharitis epargyros calmly lie for a week and then without soaking in the spread. And this is in our Kyzylkum heat! When on the street for 40, and in the car interior approx. 60 and everything is "cooked".
At home, I already sort out the fishing and put 2-4 butterflies in each of the same bags and in the freezer for storage until winter analysis. I also put a pencil label, previously soaked in water. For reliability. Then, after a year or two of storage in the freezer, I pull it out for work and leave it for a few hours without opening the bag. It turns out "samorazmochka".
If you need to store it for years or ship it, only then put it in traditional paper bags and dry it.
Disadvantages of the method - if the bag is not closed in a hurry, the material dries up with all the consequences. Polyethylene is flexible and if slightly over-dried, it breaks instantly when bending. Another disadvantage is that you need a lot of space in the freezer for a long time.
I haven't tried storing it for more than 10 days. Also, I did not try to keep more than 2-3 days of hawkmoth, bears, etc. "thick" species. But I think that in our dryness (humidity in summer is less than 20%), it is unlikely that anything will happen. If you are in the tropics, then you probably need to experiment.

This post was edited by Protey2 - 11.07.2014 14: 05

Protey2, thank you so much for the detailed review.

in bm large zip bags, I store bags with fresh collection wrapped in a moistened handkerchief in the refrigerator door or in the fruit bowl. 7-10 days everything is fine, but if more, then rotting begins.
collecting in a zip package I do not know how in Tashkent, but it seems to me that excessive humidity can lead to wet wings with their subsequent sticking to the package and damage to the material. need to experiment

Maybe not quite on the topic, but.....
In the field, I use only paper envelopes (there is no time for processing the material in the season), and in the off-season I move the material to bags made of hard plastic (4X4X6 and 6X6 cm, depending on the size of the material). In plastic and reptiles climb very reluctantly and you can see who is who. I've been using it for 30 years, the flight is normal. Examples are shown in the photo.

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Maybe not quite on the topic, but.....
In the field, I use only paper envelopes (there is no time for processing the material in the season), and in the off-season I move the material to bags made of hard plastic (4X4X6 and 6X6 cm, depending on the size of the material). In plastic and reptiles climb very reluctantly and you can see who is who. I've been using it for 30 years, the flight is normal. Examples are shown in the photo.

Do you make hard plastic bags yourself? Please share your manufacturing experience.

Do you make hard plastic bags yourself? Please share your manufacturing experience.

Itself. The material is cellophane. Usually it comes in rolls. You need a thick and fairly hard one. I mark it up with a marker. I line it with a blunt needle. After the alignment, I cut it into blanks (3). I bend it along the lines of the alignment (4). I glue the side "wings" with Moment Crystal glue. Something like that.

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Self. The material is cellophane. Usually it comes in rolls. You need a thick and fairly hard one. I mark it up with a marker. I line it with a blunt needle. After the alignment, I cut it into blanks (3). I bend it along the lines of the alignment (4). I glue the side "wings" with Moment Crystal glue. Something like that.

Thanks! We will take into service for valuable copies.))

Thanks! We will take into service for valuable copies.))

I thought so at first, too, and then I moved everyone.

I have been using ZIP bags for the last few years. They are sold in packs of 100 pieces, I take 4x5 or a little more. Very convenient and tested in the tropics. Then I put everything on the mattresses, and if the bags are not very dirty, then I use them again. And you don't need to line and glue anything, everything is ready.

I have been using ZIP bags for the last few years. They are sold in packs of 100 pieces, I take 4x5 or a little more. Very convenient and tested in the tropics. Then I put everything on the mattresses, and if the bags are not very dirty, then I use them again. And you don't need to line and glue anything, everything is ready.

I also experimented with ZIP bags, but this is in the field. They didn't suit me for long - term storage-they were too soft for such a fragile material as insects. Mattresses, for me, are bulky and the material always clings with all its dry limbs to the fibers. I experimented a lot. For me personally, it was the option with rather rigid cellophane bags that turned out to be optimal:
- nothing breaks (if something breaks off, it still remains in the bag with the instance).
- you can view the instance from all sides without actually touching it.
- conveniently stand vertically in rows in boxes.
- the printed label is stored inside the bag, along with the copy - no confusion;
- harmful reptiles hate this method of storage (unlike mattresses).
There are also disadvantages, of course! The main one is crooked or shaking hands - when you put them in a bag, you can break off a protruding tendril. Well, the complexity of manufacturing. It's easier, of course, to buy, but I respect my fees, I consider every ruined organism to be properly preserved, and I don't spare any time for this. I keep copies collected in the early 80's. And this is my choice.

I also experimented with ZIP bags, but this is in the field. They didn't suit me for long - term storage-they were too soft for such a fragile material as insects. Mattresses, for me, are bulky and the material always clings with all its dry limbs to the fibers. I experimented a lot. For me personally, it was the option with rather rigid cellophane bags that turned out to be optimal:
- nothing breaks (if something breaks off, it still remains in the bag with the instance).
- you can view the instance from all sides without actually touching it.
- conveniently stand vertically in rows in boxes.
- the printed label is stored inside the bag, along with the copy - no confusion;
- harmful reptiles hate this method of storage (unlike mattresses).
There are also disadvantages, of course! The main one is crooked or shaking hands - when you put them in a bag, you can break off a protruding tendril. Well, the complexity of manufacturing. It's easier, of course, to buy, but I respect my fees, I consider every ruined organism to be properly preserved, and I don't spare any time for this. I keep copies collected in the early 80's. And this is my choice.

I still try to straighten everything out, and not store it either on mattresses or in bags/envelopes.

I still try to straighten everything out, and not store it either on mattresses or in bags/envelopes

Well, it's not always possible... In addition, I collect in series - something for myself, something for distribution... And also, I spent the whole season in the fields, on wheels - not up to straightening, here I would like to collect, pack, and take a survey.

Gentlemen, I don't think it's too much trouble to clarify what kind of insects you put in the bags. I can hardly imagine how something can be viewed through a bag (especially under optics), as well as the long-term storage of someone freshly littered in a plastic bag with a clasp (it will become moldy or rot).

Gentlemen, I don't think it's too much trouble to clarify what kind of insects you put in the bags. I can hardly imagine how something can be viewed through a bag (especially under optics), as well as the long-term storage of someone freshly littered in a plastic bag with a clasp (it will become moldy or rot).

I keep butterflies, checked in a tropical climate, a few days the copy is calm (in paper envelopes, too, moldy and quite quickly)

Apparently, in humid tropical, when the outside is even wetter than inside. In a dry climate, it can be stored in paper forever, but in an airtight bag, where moisture has nowhere to go, sooner or later it will turn moldy or rot (more often early). At least I have that experience.

Apparently, in humid tropical, when the outside is even wetter than inside. In a dry climate, it can be stored in paper forever, but in an airtight bag, where moisture has nowhere to go, sooner or later it will turn moldy or rot (more often early). At least that's my experience.

I put the already dried material in plastic bags. Over 30 years = 0 issues.

Ah, that's another matter.

I put the already dried material in plastic bags. Over 30 years = 0 issues.

I don't understand how you put dried material in envelopes and it doesn't fall apart when you move it. The sawyere doesn't fly off.
In addition, such bags, just like envelopes, take up much more space than mattresses. On a tile mattress, at least 50 copies, at least 100 can be placed.

I don't understand how you put dried material in envelopes and it doesn't fall apart when you move it. The sawyere doesn't fly off.
In addition, such bags, just like envelopes, take up much more space than mattresses. On a tile mattress, at least 50 copies, at least 100 can be placed.

Whiskers and paws fly off, if only the hands are crooked, well, or the hangover caught up... They often fly off in paper bags. The package has one side, under the valve, fully opens and I don't see any problems sticking the headstock there with tweezers.
Are they taking up space?! In the photo - an example - between the red lines - bags with A. apollinus - you can calculate how many of them per linear cm are accounted for (for scale - one of the bags with it on top, 6X6 cm). Package thickness = about the thickness of the butterfly.

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Whiskers and paws fly off, if only the hands are crooked, well, or the hangover caught up... They often fly off in paper bags. The package has one side, under the valve, fully opens and I don't see any problems sticking the headstock there with tweezers.
Are they taking up space?! In the photo - an example - between the red lines - bags with A. apollinus - you can calculate how many of them per linear cm are accounted for (for scale - one of the bags with it on top, 6X6 cm). Package thickness = about the thickness of the butterfly.

And if not Apollonius, but for example someone from raznousykh. Catocals or cocoonworms that have a breast up to 1 cm wide. 100 butterflies in a row "plechem to the shoulder" is already a meter. Yes, and you do not need to sort through the endless rows of bags, the mattress opened and here they are, everything is in the palm of your hand.

And if not Apollonius, but for example someone from raznousykh. Catocals or cocoonworms that have a breast up to 1 cm wide. 100 butterflies in a row "plechem to the shoulder" is already a meter. Yes, and you do not need to sort through the endless rows of bags, the mattress opened and here they are, everything is in the palm of your hand.

And why go through them? Before the series of each type there is a specific label - read, selected, got... Don't-stick it back.
But I've got a tattoo all over my night. Of course, they take up more space, but it's more convenient for me. As stated above - "opened and here they are, everything is in the palm of your hand"!!!
I do not advocate for anyone to give up mattresses, paper bags or crippled bags, but only share my experience. Maybe someone will need it. Everyone decides for themselves and does what is most convenient for them.

Sell bags for butterflies self-assembled from tracing paper.
In one package of 100 sheets of 70 x 110 mm format.
The ideal format for the entire daytime Palearctic, with the exception of the Papylionidae.
The price for a package is 125 rubles.
Phone number for ordering - +7 985 005 27 11

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