Glue for sticking insects on glue boards

Name: Liquid Nails

Is this a joke or is it completely serious?)
Just just last week they glued the baseboard and left half a tube.

on transparent glue with transparent nail polish-the beetle is removed with the same "caress"
on paper glue with the old faithful Hercules. PVA-shit! some say that suppliers push ordinary PVA for hercules - they know better, but the quality is striking. I'd rather buy 30 g of oatmeal in zabugorye than a litrushka of pva. remove the beetle-a minute's work: a brush and water.
the glue should be removed well, but what will happen with "liquid nails" is a big question?

on transparent glue with transparent nail polish-the beetle is removed with the same "caress"
on paper glue with the old faithful Hercules. PVA-shit! some say that suppliers push ordinary PVA for hercules - they know better, but the quality is striking. I'd rather buy 30 g of oatmeal in zabugorye than a litrushka of pva. remove the beetle-a minute's work: a brush and water.
the glue should be removed well, but what will happen with "liquid nails" is a big question?

I just looked at the label of nail polish in the store. The composition mentions ethyl acetate and butyl acetate. Chitin this mixture will not corrode over time?

faster time will corrode chitin, because you morite EA and nothing is corroded. (the other day I straightened out beetles that were lying in stains with EA and sawdust from 2013 - everything is normal) in addition, it evaporates very quickly

One PVA is different from another. For me, the PVA - M glue produced by the Yaroslavl plant "Luch"has proven itself very well such (in a yellow tube). I have been using it for several years and do not worry (it sticks normally even to transparent plastic and is normally soaked when soaked).
Honestly, I don't understand all these frills about glue, I wonder why people took the fact that "Hercules" is intended for insects? Does it have that written on it somewhere?" Answer: not written... And it is written approximately the same as on the PVA, You need to draw conclusions.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 13.04.2017 17: 29

I bought the cheapest transparent nail polish. Tested it.
The test involves: a transparent plastic die, a cardboard die "Ento Sfix", a cardboard laminated die of the same company. Pasted aphodium (L-12mm), blue barbel (L-12mm), clear (L-16mm). The varnish was applied drop by drop approximately 1 mm in diameter in the area of the middle breast. The initial setting of the varnish is about a minute, which allows you to slowly position the insect symmetrically relative to the die. After twenty minutes, each die was tested by shaking it off with sharp and strong movements ten times. The beetles didn't fly off. He began to pick up beetles with tweezers and throw them flat from a height of 20 cm. The dies didn't come off. He began to beat the bars against the rim of the glass. After the fourth blow, a blue barbel stuck on an ordinary cardboard die flew off. But there it turned out, perhaps, the smallest drop of glue. The beetles did not fly off the other dies, but they crumbled to dust, only the prothorax remained on the dies and was removed by a light press of the scalpel to the place of gluing. The varnish was still elastic. Such pies. Thank you for your advice!

I bought the cheapest transparent nail polish. Tested it.
The test involves: a transparent plastic die, a cardboard die "Ento Sfix", a cardboard laminated die of the same company. Pasted aphodium (L-12mm), blue barbel (L-12mm), clear (L-16mm). The varnish was applied drop by drop approximately 1 mm in diameter in the area of the middle breast. The initial setting of the varnish is about a minute, which allows you to slowly position the insect symmetrically relative to the die. After twenty minutes, each die was tested by shaking it off with sharp and strong movements ten times. The beetles didn't fly off. He began to pick up beetles with tweezers and throw them flat from a height of 20 cm. The dies didn't come off. He began to beat the bars against the rim of the glass. After the fourth blow, a blue barbel stuck on an ordinary cardboard die flew off. But there it turned out, perhaps, the smallest drop of glue. The beetles did not fly off the other dies, but they crumbled to dust, only the prothorax remained on the dies and was removed by a light press of the scalpel to the place of gluing. The varnish was still elastic. Such pies. Thank you for your advice!

On the vibrating stand, you still need to check for reassurance
Collections are usually not tested for impact loads. This is an item that should be treated carefully and carefully by default

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 13.04.2017 17: 46

On the vibrating stand, you still need to check for reassurance
Collections are usually not tested for impact loads. This is an item that should be treated carefully and carefully by default

Samo sub! But I want to be sure that there will be no surprises with a more valuable specimen than the blue barbel.

Center on PVA. Legs, antennae-hard brush on glue for wallpaper.

...on the glue for wallpaper.

Can I have a label of that glue? what is the reason for using two types of glue?

This post was edited by AGG-13.04.2017 18: 30

Can I have a label of that glue? what is the reason for using two types of glue?

PVA for quick fixation, so as not to fidget when the antennae and paws are symmetrically stretched.
So glue beetles from 2 mm.
Wallpaper glue (yes, any) must stand for a day to "fall". From a jelly-like state to a liquid, transparent, jelly-like mass.
The brush is very small 5-6 mm pile, but hard. These are sold in stores for artists.

This post was edited by rpanin - 13.04.2017 18: 52

And why don't you stick your paws and whiskers with the same PVA?
What brand (or better photo labels) of wallpaper glue?

And why don't you stick your paws and whiskers with the same PVA?
What brand (or better photo labels) of wallpaper glue?

PVA, Hercules-dirty work. It is very visible after drying the insect.
Wallpaper glue, it's like liquid glass.
Some German, I don't remember (like Metylan). Packs of 250 gr. enough for half your life .
You can then add a little vinegar to the solution so that it does not turn sour.

This post was edited by rpanin - 13.04.2017 18: 59

Something like that . Smaller beetles, shitty photo equipment on the site to show .

Pictures:

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dry, soluble glue? if you need to remove the beetle, then wash it with a brush and water?

I think trekhus is quite a small bug to demonstrate the capabilities of" shitty " photographic equipment

PVA, Hercules-dirty work. It is very visible after drying the insect.
Wallpaper glue, it's like liquid glass.
Some German, I don't remember (like Metylan). Packs of 250 gr. enough for half your life .
You can then add a little vinegar to the solution so that it does not turn sour.

Nice to read, because I do about the same!
I work mainly with small things-beetles less than 1 cm long, usually 3-5 mm .
I tried PVA-I didn't like it. When dried, PVA turns into a layer that is hardly soluble in water. It takes a long time to wait for it to become soft. But this is not the main thing. Even when the PVA softens in the water, it moves away from the beetle with great difficulty. You have to clean the beetle first with a needle, then with a brush. Large time costs with the possibility of tearing something off. Therefore, I completely switched to Hercules. After soaking, Hercules behaves differently: it is easily and quickly cleaned with a brush.
I also use German wallpaper glue to straighten my legs and sawyere. Indeed, it is practically invisible when drying. PVA and Oatmeal shine when drying, very noticeable.
I forgot to add it. Glue on the die is applied with an entomological pin. I don't use a brush. I also use a pin for gluing paws and whiskers.
Everyone chooses what is more convenient for them. I just gave you my thoughts. I have a lot of experience mounting beetles.

This post was edited by Evgenich - 13.04.2017 20: 35

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Good afternoon. Tell me, super glue-it corrodes insects, or some other reasons in it?
Strongly sneakers do not throw))

Good afternoon. Tell me, super glue-it corrodes insects, or some other reasons in it?
Strongly sneakers do not throw))

If you are talking about cyanoacrylic glue, then it does not corrode anything. Just to remove it, the beetle will have to be kept in acetone, which is not very convenient, unnecessary manipulations.

The post was edited by necydalis - 25.08.2022 02: 01

If you are talking about cyanoacrylic glue, then it does not corrode anything. Just to remove it, the beetle will have to be kept in acetone, which is not very convenient, unnecessary manipulations.

Thank you very much. There will be no need to re-paste (I hope).

The next stage of "progress" is pouring into epoxy blocks, it is poorly visible from both sides, but for centuries Out, Pan Hierophis has been doing this for a long time. Probably, he was disappointed in the dream of finding worthy heirs to his unique super collection during his lifetime and hopes that the "right entomologists" who can appreciate this monumental work will appear in the future at least in future generations.

But seriously, if you really want to glue, then you need to do it on something easily soluble and washable, and cyanocobalamin is almost the last thing that is fashionable for this purpose to offer. One of the traditional techniques for preserving really small objects that are practically impossible to prick is sticking sugar syrup to a drop. Keeps well, washed off easily and without a trace. But I would take fructose instead of sucrose, since it crystallizes into much more pleasant forms, especially if the solution is prepared by boiling. And very few people eat it. For complete peace of mind, you can add a little phenol - it will stink, but certainly no one will covet a low-value copy.

The message was edited INO-25.08.2022 21: 37