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Humidity in the apartment and the dry material

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Sergey Rybalkin, 12.02.2017 11:19

I moved a year ago to a new apartment, in a new house, and now I ran into a problem, the apartment is very hot with almost closed batteries +26, but the main thing is very dry. Due to the dryness of the butterflies that were exposed many years ago, the wings began to lead. The same applies when removing from the straightener. Who solves the problem how? A humidifier?

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12.02.2017 17:42, ИНО

On the contrary, it is generally assumed that the drier, the better for the material.

12.02.2017 18:24, NIKSTER

On the contrary, it is generally assumed that the drier, the better for the material.

I wouldn't say that. I also have increased dryness in the apartment and insects after a while after spreading the wings begin to bend and take the form of an arc. This all started happening in the winter when the heating was turned on.

12.02.2017 19:30, ИНО

You just need to dry it in a dry place, not in a greenhouse. And the longer the better. To be sure, I keep butterflies at reprisals for six months, not one has yet been twisted into an arc. But high humidity in the room = "death" of the material, fast or slow - it's just as lucky.

12.02.2017 21:26, NIKSTER

But high humidity in the room = "death" of the material, fast or slow - that's how lucky you are.

Humidity can lead to the appearance of mold, that's when exactly amba material.

13.02.2017 0:39, ИНО

Not only mold, bacteria are also not dormant.

13.02.2017 20:51, Peter Khramov

In summer, in an ordinary apartment, humidity less than 40 usually does not fall off. In winter, when the heating is turned on, it can drop to 20 or less. Accordingly, if you catch up with it at least up to 40, then the material, if it is still at this humidity in the summer, will not deteriorate. So put a humidity meter, if it is really so small, you can safely increase it (if you are sure that it is the case). Well, for health, solid benefits, of course.
The ideal option is the so-called "air wash", it will not shit, no matter how hard the water is, plus it really "washes" the air from dust. Humidity, however, increases more slowly than the humidifier itself, and for a normal effect it should work almost around the clock (at least in the next room).
If you need the fastest possible effect only in terms of humidity and / or saving money, then you can also use a regular humidifier.

This post was edited by Asar - 13.02.2017 20: 51
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14.02.2017 0:57, ИНО

14.02.2017 10:28, Peter Khramov

This is from someone like. There are different climatic zones on the planet Earth.

If I understand correctly, the vehicle is from near Chelyabinsk...

IMHO nemereno humidify the air for storing dry insects, except when they are steamed in the desiccator, - especially perverted sadomasochism with unpredictable consequences.

This meant a rise in humidity only to "standard" summer values, and not to desiccator values. That is, just to avoid humidity spikes, which were discussed above.

About the benefits of dampness in the apartment for health, too, there are big doubts. If the body is directly affected by high humidity.

40-50 is not an increased price...

This post was edited by Asar - 02/14/2017 10: 29
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14.02.2017 18:35, ИНО

And it is very difficult to raise the entire apartment to "standard summer values". Rather, it's just that in one room the corner will be wet, while in the rest the humidity will rise slightly. Of course, if you put a humidifier in each corner, and connect them with electronic hygrometers, so that when certain values are reached, they are automatically turned off, then, probably. something better will come out. But to bother with such a complex and expensive climate control is purely for storing dry insects, especially considering that they are usually the drier, the better stored-this is, ahem... And to improve the microclimate in the apartment, it is better to plant more potted plants and do not forget to water them regularly.

14.02.2017 21:56, Sergey Rybalkin

Well, for someone who has static content, they probably don't understand and have nothing to worry about. See how it wraps the wings that were previously plates. I'm talking about Agrippina, who was flat for many years. And here is the stubb removed from the straightener. It should have been dried at 50% humidity, not 15, as I have now. It is clear that after the desiccator and 100% humidity, it gets to 15% and begins to dry. A sharp drop and the wings leads. I remember a childhood experience about drying butterflies in the oven, well, I really wanted to remove them from the straightener faster. Bottom line the bedstraw hawk moth dried up in half an hour, but the wings were screwed!!!! Here is such a thing turns out.

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15.02.2017 13:40, Dantist

Who solves the problem how? A humidifier?

Alternatively, get an aquarium with fish, 150-200 liters (depending on the area of the room). Aquariums increase indoor humidity.

16.02.2017 19:41, AGG

And here is the stubb removed from the straightener.

I have so led on razravilke half shtubikov, and the second half-normal. some bullshit confused.gif

16.02.2017 20:24, ИНО

Rather, 500-600 liters, unless it's a very small chest of drawers. Well, or in each corner - 100 aquas. At the same time earn some extra money in fish farming smile.gif

In general, this is some kind of garbage-to dry and store butterflies in moist air. So, let's say in 50 years someone will move to a drier room, and they will immediately be warped. If only they "live" these 50 years. It is more logical to dry immediately to the end. When drying in a stretched position (under the influence of external forces), hygroscopic fibers undergo irreversible changes, and then they react minimally to humidity fluctuations. This is how I "cured"star mushrooms. If they are dried without a "mushroom picker", then they will then be closed with hygrometers-they will open forever.

This post was edited by ENO-02/16/2017 20: 26

16.02.2017 22:15, Sergey Rybalkin

We are not talking about humid air, but about normal conditions, this is 50% humidity. In the apartment, I intended 10.9%. Because of this, it leads, in small butterflies while straightening, the whiskers can break if they are straightened for a long time. Leads to excessively fast drying. Here in the summer, although they dry longer, they are more even, due to normal humidity.

22.02.2017 15:52, Peter Khramov

Aquariums increase indoor humidity.
The effect will be negligible (the evaporation area is too small).

22.02.2017 15:54, Peter Khramov

And it is very difficult to raise the entire apartment to "standard summer values". Rather, it's just that in one room the corner will be wet, while in the rest the humidity will rise slightly.
No, with the doors open, humidity is quite well distributed throughout the premises. Essno, if there are a lot of rooms, then one device is simply not enough, but as for uniformity — no tricky electrical circuits are required to fence.
Especially good with the distribution of "sinks", because they have less contrast between working / not working (based on almost constant work or at least half a day).

This post was edited by Asar - 22.02.2017 15: 55

22.02.2017 20:21, Oleg Belkin

Collectible materials / collections should be kept in acc. It's not the materials that need to be customized to fit the conditions. What is there to discuss, what to invent-the apartment is new, apparently the heating layout is progressive/modern, i.e. heat transfer adjustment will not affect the transfer of coolant to neighbors. Summer is just around the corner, it will be warm, install shut-off valves without risk, including possible thermal heads for each battery. If the heating system is ancient, you will have to change the battery harness + the mentioned thermal heads/taps, but the result is the same. Issue resolved, collection acc. phone:
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28.02.2017 0:26, NIKSTER

Listen, it just occurred to me: maybe I should hide silica gel in the container with these butterflies of yours. he's a great dehumidifier!

It seems to me that it may over-dry the material.

28.02.2017 2:14, ИНО

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