Mnemosyne (Parnassius mnemosyne)

I really ask you all, if you suddenly have a desire to see my photos of butterflies and really write a useful review about my photos or make a critical comment about the inaccuracy of the definition, then do it directly under my photos on these sites:

Butterflies of the Kuban foothills and the Black Sea coast of the Caucasus © Igor Torgachkin

http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/torgachkin/
or
http://torgachkin.flamber.ru/photos/albums/1156853299/

- And I caught Mnemosyne on August 1!!! in the valley of the river Rtsyvashki (Upper Balkaria).
Although near Pyatigorsk on Mount Beshtau, females are practically no longer caught on June 10. Males were seen en masse on May 15 on Mount Bull in a hard-to-reach place.
We have a Caucasian crested and Marshala.

This post was edited by Andreas - 11.08.2008 21: 51

I can't figure out which one................... do you create new themes that
overshadow the old ones??????????????? There is also a theme created by Morozzz.Why
not update it, if of course there is something to update!?

this topic was created 2 years earlier (if you look at the date of the first message), with a different meaning and essentially different

Sorry, at first I posted it in an inappropriate topic, but then I moved it here because this topic is dedicated to this particular type of butterfly and in my opinion most corresponds to the topic of my post
The very first male
Parnassius (Driopa) mnemosyne (Linnaeus, 1758)
I think from a new and previously unknown point (opened with the capture of this butterfly).
Please excuse the flown copies. There were all such (apparently the generation is already on the decline).
Females were not taken and had fully formed sphragis. I plan to visit the same area in a year.
Collected on 14.06.2015.
Here: Russia, Vladimir region, Petushinsky district, Blagoveshchensk (Bagaevsky) Pogost tract, swampy meadow in the floodplain of the Olkhovka river. leg. Feoktistov V. I.


Just as I felt a year ago when I saw the thickets of Sedum acre in those places, that someone like this should be there.
Although various species of Crested Beetles (Corydalus) are listed everywhere as the main food plants, most likely mnemosyne in that area feeds precisely on the purification plant, since no crested beetles were observed there.
Ochitok caustic (the picture was taken a year before the capture in the same place):

P.S. Now, over time, I think I will find Parnassius apollo there: the caterpillar is just feeding on the cleaning floor. And the view is definitely in the Vladimir region

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 20.06.2015 13: 50

  
The very first male
Parnassius (Driopa) mnemosyne (Linnaeus, 1758)
I think from a new and previously unknown point (opened with the capture of this butterfly).
Please excuse the flown copies. There were all such (apparently the generation is already on the decline).
Females were not taken and had fully formed sphragis. I plan to visit the same area in a year.
Collected on 14.06.2015.
Here: Russia, Vladimir region, Petushinsky district, Blagoveshchensk (Bagaevsky) Pogost tract, swampy meadow in the floodplain of the Olkhovka river. leg. Feoktistov V. I.
Just as I felt a year ago when I saw the thickets of Sedum acre in those places, that someone like this should be there.
Although various species of Crested Beetles (Corydalus) are listed everywhere as the main food plants, most likely mnemosyne in that area feeds precisely on the purification plant, since no crested beetles were observed there.
Ochitok caustic (the picture was taken a year before the capture in the same place):
P.S. Now, over time, I think I will find Parnassius apollo there: the caterpillar is just feeding on the ochitok. And the view is definitely in the Vladimir region

Vasily, congratulations on your personal discovery of an interesting view in Novaya Tochka.
I do not monitor the center of Russia by day points, but very often the new is well forgotten old. But I can't be the judge here. I just want to specify your speculations.
Mnemasina is a narrow oligophage and feeds only on crested flowers, and this is due to its biology, the caterpillar begins to feed in the spring and manages to complete the full development cycle in April and May. and putting forward an assumption about feeding on another plant should be more weighty prerequisites: a found caterpillar and a reared one. If a forage plant is not found, it does not mean that it is missing. It is good to observe the tuft only when it blooms and this is April-early May, in June it simply does not exist.
The presence of caustic scum can not say anything about the presence of Parnassius apollo, although it is noted as a possible food plant, but it prefers other scum.
If the chuyka suggests, then look for it, sometimes premonitions about finding a species are more important than the found food plant. Many years of experience guarantee you that

Vasily, congratulations on your personal discovery of an interesting view in Novaya Tochka.
I do not monitor the center of Russia by day points, but very often the new is well forgotten old. But I can't be the judge here. I just want to specify your speculations.
Mnemasina is a narrow oligophage and feeds only on crested flowers, and this is due to its biology, the caterpillar begins to feed in the spring and manages to complete the full development cycle in April and May. and putting forward an assumption about feeding on another plant should be more weighty prerequisites: a found caterpillar and a reared one. If a forage plant is not found, it does not mean that it is missing. It is good to observe the tuft only when it blooms and this is April-early May, in June it simply does not exist.
The presence of caustic scum can not say anything about the presence of Parnassius apollo, although it is noted as a possible food plant, but it prefers other scum.
If the chuyka suggests, then look for it, sometimes premonitions about finding a species are more important than the found food plant. Many years of experience guarantee you that

Alexander, thank you for your kind words
About where the assumption about cleaning up came from. I just read about it or heard it somewhere.... I don't remember it anymore. I will of course look there now and khokhlatka just in case
About Apollo: it is definitely on the "Red Lighthouse" in the Sudogodsky district. It's a long way off, but the biotopes are about the same: Meshchera (pines, sand, swamps and clean ecology). So, it can easily be in the Petushinsky district. I hope that I will find it in time. Hope is a great thing)
In total, I have already noted 3 species of Papilionidae in the Pools:
1) Swallowtail. It is very common, flies in two generations and I don't even take it into account
2) Submitted A Request. I saw him (though only once) and even caught him, but he escaped through a hole in the net.
3) Now here is Mnemosyne. So far I know one point, but it is numerous on it. I'll scout further.
Still there, in my opinion, it is worth going for a walk in the area of the banks of the Klyazma for kirkazon. Where there is kirkazone, there should also be Polyxene. Not in the same Alpatievo it is))
So, there are a lot of plans...... I hope for a "Full set"

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 21.06.2015 10: 21

Gennadich found a growing place for kirkazon on Voinova Gora, but when we examined it (in the summer), we didn't find any eggs or caterpillars. Maybe bring it from Alpatievo?)

Gennadich found a growing place for kirkazon on Voinova Gora, but when we examined it (in the summer), we didn't find any eggs or caterpillars. Maybe bring it from Alpatievo?)

Why import it: this is no longer interesting ))
The presence of a feed box does not always mean that what you are looking for will be found immediately. While Mnemosyne was found, several years of crawling around those edges had passed. But I did find it.
The fact that there is a kirkazon is already encouraging. We need to search.
And you don't need to import it. Any importation of an insect is evil. It may be foreign to a particular area.

This post was edited by vasiliy-feoktistov - 21.06.2015 12: 55

Why import it: this is no longer interesting ))
And you don't need to import it. Any importation of an insect is evil. It may be foreign to a particular area.

I remember very well how Elena Mikhailovna Antonova scolded me for my fantasies about the possibility of importing Maaki and Xut to us - and what, we have plenty of Ash!
Of course, any introduction of an alien species into a new environment is not a good thing. And there are plenty of examples of this.

  
Just as I felt a year ago when I saw the thickets of Sedum acre in those places, that someone like this should be there.
Although various species of Crested Beetles (Corydalus) are listed everywhere as the main food plants, most likely mnemosyne in that area feeds precisely on the purification plant, since no crested beetles were observed there.
Ochitok caustic (the picture was taken a year before the capture in the same place):
P.S. Now, over time, I think I will find Parnassius apollo there: the caterpillar is just feeding on the ochitok. And the view is definitely in the Vladimir region

Vasily, we already wrote above that mnemosyne is a strict monophage on the Crested head (we and you have it Corydalis solida (=halleri). Try heading there towards the end of April, and you'll probably find a lot of blooming flowers. We have about April 19-in the mass.

Ochitok caustic finally no one eats, even the Parnassians of the Apollo group disdain them. Specially interested in specialists-razvodilschikov. In some places we have a sea of it. Apollo no Apollo in our area eats on types of "hare cabbage".

"Not sweet" photo of our local Mnemosyne craspedontis Fruhstofer.
5. 06. 2015.
Saratov Region and District, vic. of vill. Burkin Buerak.
Parnassius mnemosyne craspedontis male,
nectaring on the flowers of Vicia cracca.



5.06.2015.
Там же.
Parnassius mnemosyne craspedontis female,
sitting on leaves of Fragaria vesca.



5.06.2015.

A feast of Mnemosyne on Vicia cracca. Sometimes there gathered 4-5 specimens at once.

Vasily, we already wrote above that mnemosyne is a strict monophage on the Crested head (we and you have it Corydalis solida (=halleri). Try heading there towards the end of April, and you'll probably find a lot of blooming flowers. We have about April 19-in the mass.

Ochitok caustic finally no one eats, even the Parnassians of the Apollo group disdain them. Specially interested in specialists-razvodilschikov. In some places we have a sea of it. Apollo no Apollo in our area eats on types of "hare cabbage".

Thank you, I've already made some inquiries about kormovukha myself. On Sedum acre, of course, I sinned in vain: Mnemosyne does not eat it (and neither does Apollo).
But nevertheless, Mnemosyne is there.... it turns out that I correctly "smelled" it a year ago
I will now look for a crested bird in the spring, and at the same time for geese on it.
About Apollo in those parts: well, I can smell him and that's it...
We can only hope that my premonitions will not be deceived in this regard

Has anyone looked for mnemosyne caterpillars? When is the best time to look for them and at what time of day? During the day I walked around and found nothing, and in the evening I did the same. Not even a trace of their meal!

An urgent question arose: what is the radius of mnemosyne's flight from its station? The question arose due to the fact that yesterday I found a female mnemosyne at my garden association, although not once since the purchase of the dacha (since 1994) was there even a hint of it! Periodically I take walks in the surrounding area, neither crested nor mnemosyne until yesterday did not meet. What is the travel distance of this species? He even put forward a semi-fantastic version that this female, like Mary Poppins, was picked up by the wind and brought to us, since the wind has been serious in recent days.

Pictures:

IMG_4451.JPG — (394.79к)


IMG_4467.JPG — (390.81к)

An urgent question arose: what is the radius of mnemosyne's flight from its station? The question arose due to the fact that yesterday I found a female mnemosyne at my garden association, although not once since the purchase of the dacha (since 1994) was there even a hint of it! Periodically I take walks in the surrounding area, neither crested nor mnemosyne until yesterday did not meet. What is the travel distance of this species? He even put forward a semi-fantastic version that this female, like Mary Poppins, was picked up by the wind and brought to us, since the wind has been serious in recent days.

In the north of the Ryazan region, single specimens were found up to 10 km from the station.

I read the topic, but I didn't find a proper answer for myself! When is the best time to look for caterpillars? At what hours is it better to inspect the tufts? Can caterpillars be found in cloudy weather?

I read the topic, but I didn't find a proper answer for myself! When is the best time to look for caterpillars? At what hours is it better to inspect the tufts? Can caterpillars be found in cloudy weather?

Caterpillars in March-May. They feed at night (Lvovsky and Morgun, 2007)

This post was edited by vafdog - 18.04.2017 08: 05

It is interesting and for whom articles are posted on this forum - I noticed that for five years, for example, forum participants change by 2/3, "old men" are also not particularly active - and why should they be active when new entomoluhi come and ask exactly the same questions that we discussed earlier, probably too lazy to look through the pages, learn many unsophisticated ones the truths that were before them, no need to poke yourself-and maybe it's better, in ten years (when they get THEIR OWN material) they will write an article about their mnemosyne populations ...

Polumordvinov O. A., Shibaev S. V. 2007. Materials on the distribution, ecology and biology of the mnemosyne sailboat Driopa mnemosyne (Linnaeus, 1758) (Lepidoptera: Papilionidae) in the Penza region // Izvestiya PSPU: Sector of Young Scientists No. 3 (7) - Penza: PSPU. 2007. pp. 308-313.

This post was edited by Penzyak - 18.04.2017 10: 50

File/s:



 __________________________________________2007.doc

size: 710k
number of downloads: 233

A little off topic, but still... somewhere in the literature I met that apollons can feed on species of the genus Sempervivum. Has anyone checked whether this is true or not?

Hello everyone I've been wanting to post my photos for a long time. I was glad to find such an advanced entomosite. I have a lot of photos of insects, mostly Rhopalocera.
Mnemosyne (Parnassius mnemosyne), Moscow region, Lukhovitsky district, Chernaya River.
More (for the first time!) this year we managed to shoot polyxene, though not in the Moscow Region (I don't know the specific locus, I couldn't find it at the Kirkazon loci in Dedinovo and Beloomut), but in Ryazan. Tell me on what forum it is better to post their photos .I still haven't mastered the navigation on the site
yet The images on mnemos were taken in May 2011 and 2015.
The first picture (pairing) is on May 28, 2011, then on May 25, 2011, June 5, 2017 and 2 messages also on May 25, 2011.
This year, they flew only yesterday, May 30. Usually in the early 20s

Pictures:

28_____2011.JPG — (320.08к)


25_____2011.JPG — (296.51к)


5______2015.JPG — (283.55 k)


DSC_0384.JPG — (288.11к)


DSC_0423.JPG — (296.87к)

It's a bit too big. Sorry for "Rhopalocera" and "mpemosyn", accidentally poked transit. Please tell me how you can make a photo more compact, or maybe you don't need to, because even more visible

  June 5, 2017 

You just portend the future
And the photos are credit cards.

Yes, the photos are cool!

Thank you. About the dispersal of such species. There is experience. The clearing where these insects were filmed is adjacent to the highway. Two years ago, some work was being done there at all, and it was not clear whether the locus would remain in the same state. In general, mnemosyne was settled in a similar clearing, 5 km away. Got used to it.

Thank you. About the dispersal of such species. There is experience. The clearing where these insects were filmed is adjacent to the highway. Two years ago, some work was being done there at all, and it was not clear whether the locus would remain in the same state. In general, mnemosyne was settled in a similar clearing, 5 km away. Got used to it.

And how were they resettled?

... in-in and at the same time as cultivated crested and relocated ants!??

I didn't have to cultivate the crested duck: she's been there before. 5 or 6 butterflies were transferred and released in early June. And for several years now, the child population has been successfully living in a new place. The presence of the crested bird in the biotope is the main condition, but it is very common

But what does ants have to do with it? there are a lot of large ants of the genus Camponotus

I looked at the photo: not 2 years ago, but already 4 years ago, 5 or 6 (no more) were moved to another clearing. These photos are already from a new place, one year after the "eco-intervention". Now there are even more of them there, but they are also more spacious. Glade of deciduous forest (also with oaks). Approximately 3 km north-west of the "mother". There is a photo of the biotope, I'll post it later. MO, North-West of Lukhovitsky district. May 30 and June 1, 2014. Photo: Ivan Sorokin.

Pictures:

IMG_6872.JPG — (308.77к)


DSC_0039.JPG — (302.07к)


DSC_0628.JPG — (293.12к)


DSC_1078.JPG — (298.07к)


DSC_1032.JPG — (296.97к)


_________.JPG — (290к)

Sorry, at first I posted it in an inappropriate topic, but then I moved it here because this topic is dedicated to this particular type of butterfly and in my opinion most corresponds to the topic of my post
The very first male
Parnassius (Driopa) mnemosyne (Linnaeus, 1758)
I think from a new and previously unknown point (opened with the capture of this butterfly).
Please excuse the flown copies. There were all such (apparently the generation is already on the decline).
Females were not taken and had fully formed sphragis. I plan to visit the same area in a year.
Collected on 14.06.2015.
Here: Russia, Vladimir region, Petushinsky district, Blagoveshchensk (Bagaevsky) Pogost tract, swampy meadow in the floodplain of the Olkhovka river. leg. Feoktistov V. I.

I visited this point yesterday (10.06.2017) to find out how it is doing.
She's doing just fine. Mnemosyne flies in great numbers. To such an extent that nothing white but it is invisible there
The result of 15 minutes of waving the net (I took only two females, and released the rest):

A good point turned out to be

I visited this point yesterday (10.06.2017) to find out how it is doing.
She's doing just fine. Mnemosyne flies in great numbers. To such an extent that nothing white but it is invisible there
The result of 15 minutes of waving the net (I took only two females, and released the rest):
It turned out to be a good point

Were you looking for tracks at this point?

Were you looking for tracks at this point?

No, I wasn't looking for it. I always find myself there at the wrong time.
More than a hundred versts from the house by electric train, and then a few km on foot, through the forest. Especially do not hit (((

We have quite common on the banks of almost all small rivers

Pictures:

_________. JPG — (297.21 k)


P1020437.JPG — (302.3к)

Gentlemen, can anyone tell you what subspecies of mnemosyne lives in Israel?

Gentlemen, can anyone tell you what subspecies of mnemosyne lives in Israel?

syra Verity, 1905

Gentlemen, can anyone tell you what subspecies of mnemosyne lives in Israel?

That's an understatement. He lives in Syria and still climbs a little bit on the city of Hermon.

Pictures:

_________. png — (1.32 mb)